Reserving ... um ... jing (?) [Archive]

Nexus

02-20-2002, 01:54 PM

I'll have the books on male cultivation provided soon. Making sure everything is in order, and giving you guys some time to decide if you are really serious about it! :-)

I've lost count of my days!

DareDevil, are you starting to feel like you need less sleep? Noticed anything inparticular you want to share, 21 days is most then probably most men under 40 ever achieve, keep it up!

One thing I can recommend for the meantime though is a few minutes of meditation before you go to sleep and when you wake up. This doesn't have to be anything extreme, but it will definetely aid to settling the sexual energies.

More to come soon.

- Nexus

fa_jing

02-20-2002, 02:43 PM

My record still stands, I see. Just a challenge to you guys to beat my 37 days with no emissions. I'm out of the running cause I'm married, however when my twins are born it will be via C-section, that means no sex for 3 months at least. Perfect opportunity to work up my horse stance time. Justa Man, I noticed some aggressiveness coming out in another thread, you feeling alright buddy? :D

So have you guys felt the Hui Yin cavity fill up yet? How has it helped your meditation?

I recommend something I once learned, meant to be practiced in such a state. It's the first step of the Yi Chin Jing exercises. Lie on your back in a calm state. Rub your belly in a circular motion around your belly button, using your right palm. The motion is such that when the hand is above the navel it is passing to the left This is to follow the path of the intestines. As your palm passes, concentrate on feeling it with your stomach area and guid the energy towards it. You should be able to feel the chi flow towards that area. Use a lot of intention but send it through the skin of your belly, not through your hand. The chi should start to build up in your Dan Tien. Continue for at least 30 minutes. This is a great way to experience Chi for real. Please try it and let me know if you had the same experience.

-FJ

Daredevil

02-20-2002, 03:54 PM

fa_jing,

I'll try that.

Nexus,

Actually no, I'm not feeling I need less sleep. Unfortunately, but then I have been going to sleep pretty late and that may contribute to me sleeping a bit longer (if I go to sleep before 03:00 or so, I usually sleep 8 hours. If I go to sleep after that, I sleep more than 8, even if I do it for a long time. It's odd, but I take it as a sign from my system to go to sleep early).

Energy level has been good, though, but nothing spectacular.

There maybe something new going in my taiji, but then again, there's always something new going on my taiji, so I'm not sure to what I can attribute it. :)

I actually did take up meditation again on my own, for some reason. And I was doing it before going to sleep, too (though that's typically when I do my qigong routine). Since you suggest it, I'll try to make it daily as well -- if I can cram it in my schedule.

fa_jing

02-20-2002, 03:58 PM

DareDevil, I notice you live in Finland. Do you feel an increased ability to tolerate the cold? I felt that way when I was "reserving." I also felt the effect of not needing quite as much sleep.
-FJ

Nexus

02-20-2002, 04:23 PM

Keep it up, it will be worth it, just give it time!

- Nexus

Stacey

02-20-2002, 04:39 PM

wow an Anti masterbation support group.

Hey everybody, I just won! Evolution...Did you really go for 3 years without cumming? Why? are you superman now?

Are your eyes really shiny? Just curious, I find this all very fascinating.

Nexus

02-20-2002, 04:57 PM

Stacey, perhaps if you took the arts seriously, people would start to take you seriously.

Stacey

02-20-2002, 08:42 PM

ok then I don't know how long I've gone, I know I have shiny eys and girls love me more when I store up jing.

My chi starts moving and I warm up. Or course a change in diet does the same. But I feel more full, more dense and solid. Hard to explain. I am not restraining nature, its winter, I'm just not in the mood for girls right now. But I will be. Besides its good to combine yin and yang.

I'm at a stage where having relations with a girl/woman is far more important that a heating sensation in my body, or extra kung fu power/balance, hitting power.

Everything in balance.

Pawa-eri-to

02-20-2002, 08:54 PM

I tried this before although all I got was very easy to tick off. :D But I didn't do it for that long only about a week. Perhaps I will try it again and see if I get any results. Here comes a long couple of weeks :eek: (or longer maybe?) :rolleyes:

Ray Pina

02-21-2002, 07:53 AM

Three years?

I went about a week. But, one does not hold a horse stance for 30 minutes on day 1. Its something I'm being mindful of. It has never come up in my study, so to speak, so I'm not terribly concerned about it yet -- just interested. I'm still working on the other aspects of internal, the external of the internal, thouhg I am doing some excercises my master has given me and I am feeling affects. Putting them into words would be wierd. COuld be done, I'm a believer there's a word for every job, but this is soemthing different.

dezhen2001

02-21-2002, 08:40 AM

for the style of hard qigong i am doing right now, i am meant to train 100 days without secreting 'jing'......which being a 22 year old male at Uni is very difficult to do! Luckily my gf is abroad right now, so that helps...

right now, i am going on for a month. But i dunno if i'll be able to keep up the 100 days! Would be much easier if i was a monk in the Temple where this particular style came from methinks :D

i definately feel more energetic.

Nexus - the advice on meditation before and after sleeping is well heeded - those are very difficult times!

david

Xebsball

02-21-2002, 09:02 AM

When i try i never get more than a few days :(

But i do feel great difference on energy level, it incrises greatly when you do qigong.

On a side thing sort of thing, did you guys know that this kind of thing is popular belif even in cultures that dont have any form of qigong or yoga?
In my country there are some soccer and other sports players that wont have sex some days before a important game. Same thing goes for some mma fighters.

fa_jing

02-21-2002, 12:00 PM

Xesball - don't worry too much about it, I think you are a teenager? Around age 24-25 it gets a little easier to control. What you said was true. I made a comment about Mohammed Ali in an other thread. Also football players are supposed to abstain before a match.
--This society is becoming over-sexed because they use sex to sell things. It's everywhere and it is encouraged to increase consumerism. There is also a lot of psuedo-science put out by the doctors that masturbation is fine, at least that's what I read in my mother's "Cosmopolitan" magazine when I was a teen. Following that advice, I left myself depleted and emotionally it was not good. I'm actually very angry about it now, and I want to combat this mis-information. I have two friends who are grown men ages 28 and 33 that still j/o twice a day on a regular basis to porn. If you shake there hand, it is like completely limp. They also have pretty soft bodies despite working out. I think men used to be different. Back in my father's generation, more men served in the army. If you were in the army you slept in a room with lot's of other dudes in bunks. These guys were not wanking it like at all. They had a negative view of this and their attitude is actually mostly correct. These men now are far more manly then some of these effiminate wankers walking around today, from a younger generation. You really can tell alot about someone from their handshake - not those idiots that try to squeeze your hand as hard as possible, but a good firm handshake.

-FJ

Daredevil

02-21-2002, 02:28 PM

Our society is very much influenced by sex and sexual thoughts. Having gone for 22 days without, while it doesn't really even seem like a long time (it's not the time per se, but the staving off of the desire), has made that much very obvious. We're bombarded by sexual issues : from attractive females walking us by to the over-sexing of the media.

While I don't really oppose all that, I do hope people would be more aware of it. I have myself thought about this a lot just now. When so many of even our own actions are influenced by sexual desire, it is very interesting to seek to extinguish it. When it's not sexual desires influencing us, what is?

We return more wholly to the original state, more in tune with everything and ourselves. And how easy it would be to lose that, to merely be a slave of our own desires. At least in this fashion, 100 days of no ejaculation seems like a very good exercise of the self. I strongly recommend it (and hope I can make it that far myself), if for nothing else but this revelation.

Repulsive Monkey

02-21-2002, 02:39 PM

I'm not saying this competition purposes but a year ago I broke an abstinence of 4 and half years. Of course I was studying Chinese Medicine when I first started which claims that unenforced desire for sexual practices would symptomatic of bodily/emotional disharmonies. However, it was enforced as a means of practice, and ...welll... how can I say? I just got used to it, and went through a phase where getting involved in a relationship was difficult to do anyway, so that made it easier I guess.
However to be honest I do consider that amount of time to be somewhat extreme if it's enforced and unhealthy (or at least indictative of bad health) if not enforced.

Justa Man

02-21-2002, 03:10 PM

fa_jing...:D . you started!! :p
i'm in a phase right now where like repulsive monkey said, it's difficult for a relationship, so that makes it easier to abstain. 4 and a half years ?! you get maaad props!! for this day and age, with media and whatnot, that is quite an accomplishment. sex is everywhere, as alot of you said. i think it's real sad that this is how our culture gets on, but it is what it is. it's strange how it's almost second nature to look at a sexy girls a$$ when she passes by. i catch myself doing it like it's a normal reflex.
whatevers. 3 weeks+ and counting.

fa_jing

02-21-2002, 03:24 PM

This may go against everything I've said so far, but after 1 year with no sex IMO you are allowed to get a hooker. :cool:

I still want to emphasize that the reason we are bombarded with sexual images in the media is for the purpose of selling things, that is what is most wrong about it. These same forces want us to be sex addicts so we'll pay that much more attention when the commercial with the hot babe comes on the tube. It's not really like society has suddenly started appreciating the human female form.

-FJ

Stacey

02-21-2002, 07:25 PM

Well unless women start wearing Burkas, I think there will be stimulating curves to look at.

But how far do you go? Skirts over table legs, so men don't cum in their pants?

The only bad thing about it everywhere is that it becomes cliche. Imagine not being so numbed by porn? On one hand, more men would be minutemen and on the other, think about how intoxicating....wait it already is..

Oh sorry. Yeah Saltpeter and frosted flakes, bland food, hobbits, baseball baseball, nice ass, ****@! Form number 3, san ti, tai chi set, tai chi set....ok, rain on the roof, a nice book. Teddy bear, tree fort with friends, Rosane Barr naked, HEY I JUST FOUND THE CURE

Imagine Rosane Bar naked if you are feeling amorous. Hear her revolting voice.
Then hold horse stance for an hour.

PS, Anyone notice the correlation to holding horse stance for a long time, and pleasing women for a looooong time?

In the taoist classics it says imploding...is that something else besides relaxing and baby breathing? It says, done 7 times, you are enlightened and strengthened. Legs shaped, voice sonorous.

If I'm going to spend jing, I want to invest in enlightenment.

bamboo_ leaf

02-21-2002, 10:12 PM

One thing that strikes me about much of what I read on this is the effort and expected results.

I think that if it is not really within you to do this thing the effort from trying to do it gets in the way of intended results. It is no longer a natural practice but something forced and unnatural.

I once practiced with a chi kung master from china. He wouldn’t even begin training us until we could stand for 30min. there was only 2 of us wanting to pactice this. his daughter translated his instuctions and our questions.

his practice took about 3hrs or so.

He did this every day, it was his job. For him, the practice was natural. He also had the knowledge and training to put his ability to use. He was/is a healer

I can say that this opened up many things for me but with no real knowledge to put it to use it was kind of dangerous. Also the time of the practice didn’t really fit in with my life style and TC practice.

Before engaging in any real work of this kind I would ask myself why is this something that one wants to do?

What does one expect to do with the skill gained?
Dose it really fit in with ones life style?

The bottom line is your body is working well with it’s own knowledge, increasing the inner energy with out guidelines or real ability (not every one can achieve good results, for some the work may even be dangerous.)

a forced practice may be very bad for you and those around you.

We have heard when that when student is ready the teacher will appear, there is some real brutal honesty in this. We may not always get what we want. Sometimes we don’t want what we need.

A real teacher can help to clear and guide one though the dangers as well as test to see if one can really do it.

Ever see a 110 light plugged in to 220, it works for a little while. A very little while.

red_fists

02-21-2002, 10:19 PM

Bamboo Leaf.

I think I quiet agree with your last Post.

The other question I am asking myself,
should this type of skill be trained at a young age or at an older age when the natural funciton of the Body starts to change.

To be honest, it looks like something useful for an older MA rather than a young one that should be having Kids and all the other things that nature intended from him.

Most people I know that train those skills are already in their 40's or above.

Just my 2 Cents worth.

bamboo_ leaf

02-21-2002, 10:42 PM

Red fist,

Damm, my profile shouldn’t have my age in it. :)

Age is a funny thing, sometimes it feels young. Others times it feel much, much older.

I would say from those that I have met they didn’t chose it directly. The way chose them.

All can benefit, but the degree and type of training is not something that one should undertake alone IMHO.

Even in MA I think that it is very important that your practice really jive with you. Other wise you will always be fighting it.

It’s interesting to talk about because it deals with life force on a very basic and personal level. Once your past that the real work begins.

Then the questions of what, why, the motivating factors become very important. If it’s about power then I think you will become consumed by the fire you seek to fuel.

Intention with inner work is very important, I think "Nexus", would be better able to explain.

dezhen2001

02-22-2002, 02:46 AM

bamboo_leaf, red_fists, fa_jing, and Repulsive Monkey: those were very good posts. Good thoughts and advice for us all to read :)

You highlighted some good points. Why are we trying to 'abstain'? What is our motivation for doing so? For me it's simple: the hard Qigong that my Sifu has taught me requires it. This is to help me develop my Bones, Muscles and Skin. It is very difficult for me sometimes though :p

Like Daredevil and Justa_man i've noticed how much everyday life is taken up with looking at members of the opposite sex, thinking about it etc... But i seem to be more 'detatched' from it than involved in doing so (of course i have a gf, so don't need to look anywhere else ;)). It's strange: mostly i can keep things under control, but like Nexus said before bed, and first thing in the morning are difficult times!

I like the Roseanne Barr idea! I think it would work 100%
For me it's easier. I'm at University in the west Midlands (UK) and most of the girls around me have a real nast accent/voice (to my ears anyway). So they may look good, but that's only until they start talking :D

david

Daredevil

02-22-2002, 04:52 AM

I for one am "just doing it". I don't expect results per se, though I remain attentive and curious if any such arise. And if the task would feel impossible, or too uncomfortable, I'd take nature's hint and stop doing it. For now, there is no such problem.

I think that being result-oriented in one's practise is never good. Of course, I don't mean you shouldn't sometimes train for a reason or for a goal -- that can be certainly good if done correctly -- but too often people just talk too much about what they'll be able to do, instead of actually doing it.

For example, many spend a lot of time discussing and speculating on the effects/results/etc of their stance training, maybe trying to replicate some "funny sensations" that have come their way, when they should just be concerned about walking the path. I think similar behavior can be seen in many things when people get caught up in minor revelations.

dezhen2001

02-22-2002, 07:55 AM

i think that's true... "Just Do It" - to quote the Nike slogan :)

When i started learning from my Sifu, many other people came to him to learn some skill. They were always so concerend about what they should be focussing on, visualising and feeling etc. Whereas me? I just follow what Sifu says, and have noticed things happen, but really just train - i'm not concerned about chasing the 'feeling' of Qi.

Now i train because i am interested in studying and finding out about the skill. Not so i can become some 'super' human! I've heard many people study Qigong wanting to learn to heal, absorb blows, project Qi etc. but they do not want to take the long road! I train because i want to be healthy in my mind and in my body. that's it :)

david

Ray Pina

02-22-2002, 08:52 AM

Some good post here. Bamboo Leaf, Red Fist, Repulsive MOnkey, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us on these matters.

On a side note: I think its a little too easy to blame "Them", the media. Maybe bceause I'm an editor, but I don't cosnider myself "the media".

The media reports what's happening. Yes, sometimes they look into things or purport things an dmake things more then they are. But when somone goes to a school and shoot up everybody, its not the media's fault. They are simply reporting what happened. There were no Newpapers or televisions when Kane slayed Abel. But yet, more murderees happned.

Why do they use sex to sell. BECAUSE WE LIKE IT. Believe me, if McDOnalds started running add of $hit on a bun, we wouldn't be running out to by it. They use sex because we like sex, are pre-programed to like sex. Sex is natural sex is fun, not everybody does it but everybody should.

But, like all things -- kind bud -- moderation is key ... I think.

fa_jing

02-22-2002, 10:32 AM

Media is a broad term and does not specifically refer to news media. My complaint regards commercialism and really could be applied to all underhanded selling tactics not just those appealing to the sex urge. A more fundemental cause of over-sexedness in our society lies with men who have a "circle-jerk" mentality, spurring each other on to higher-than-natural levels of lust. Like my two erstwhile friends, for example.

I agree about not rushing to start these practices early in life, and also that you don't really need to have a specific goal in mind in order to do this kind of training.

-FJ

Ray Pina

02-22-2002, 10:51 AM

U understand what you are saying, and there's a side of me that agrees.

But the strongest side of me may see an influence, but at the same time, if commercialism makes your friends J/O, they have deeper problems. If a movie or game makes a child kill, then, the problem is not with the game but with the child.

This will sound bad, but I view the majority of people one crosses on the street to be sheep. The do not think for themsleves and are so very easily influenced -- weak minds. That's why there are sooo many malls in America, and movies we saw in the '80's were made. For the most part people are bored and borring. I don't blame MTV, but the fools who turn to it as soon as they flick on the TV.

Yea, I enjoy TV, especially when coming home to have a quick meal. I'll watch Simpons and Seinfeld. I enjoy them, then I'll go do some reading or writing. If I have friends over -- and I know they need the TV on -- Discovery CHannel, TLC. I prefer music, and luckily, some of my friends enjoy chess.

There will always be outside influences, but if your friend goes to rub one out, he needs to look at himseld first, for why. Myabe he's just *****. But if its too the extreme you say it is, then there is a deeper reason. I just don't by into the "media" thing. I find it a very American thing to do, Blame someone else, instead of taking responsibility.

Justa Man

02-22-2002, 11:54 AM

it is easy to blame media. no one wants to face up for themselves. at the same time, this country enables people to shift blame. like when dude goes out and murders someone, then pleads insanity. "it's not my fault, i'm insane". and you got lawyers that will bust a$$ to prove that.

this is OT of the celibacy issue (but not really in the end), but what's the deal with newspapers and tv being all about who was killed, who got raped, who's been arrested for stealing money from the elderly, etc? we as a people aren't only bombarded with sexual undertones, but violent ones as well. i never read the paper (except for sports) or watch news on tv (except for sports), cuz i never see positive things. it's all one big negative tidal wave that won't stop breaking on people's heads. war, murder, injustice, anger, negativity.

practicing celibacy isn't hard. i'm not going against my urges for sex because they aren't strong enough to be termed "going against" in the first place. maybe it's partly because i'm disappointed with how people are so hung up on it, and how our culture in stuck in it...that and violence....that practicing celibacy is in some way cleaning my conscious of our cultures illnesses. one can flip it and say "yea, but why practice martial arts if you are against violence?" partly because i gain the peace of mind in knowing i can properly and efficiently defend me and my family's lives from the sensless violence that our culture is preoccupied with, if it should manifest as an attacker, bugler, mugger, terrorist, etc.

as evolution said, i think you can't blame a video game or tv show for some kid flippin out and killing. but at the same time the violent input is so great on kids today (tv, video games, news, movies) that it's almost like what other output could be expected? so while i can't blame tv and all that, i'm not suprised that it happens due to tv and all that.

evolution fist, we should meet up at washington sq sometime and play chess. :)

Ray Pina

02-22-2002, 12:41 PM

Always down for chess. I just got back to playing at gamecolony.com, but they start you ate 1400 and then I got housed by two 1900 players in spedd chess so I'm down to a 1385 rating.

I like playing 5 mintues games. But I'll play anything. I used to go to the CHess forum on Thompson st too -- right by the park.

Back to the media though. We all wanted to hear and see when "Sept. 11th" was taking place. We like to see when we play war in the dessert. We like to see what happned with OJ,n ect.

We can't pick and choose, because then we limit and censor the media, that could be dangerous as well.

What we need are better parents, so they raise children you can think for themselves, be secure with themselves and the world around them. I for one and thankful for mine. My mother died young but she did a good job while she had me. I grew up ina place that offred a lot of "distractions" if you know what I mean. Martial Arts had no small part in keeping me clear of all that. And it wasn't till I gave it up and strated playing ball that I did enter that world a bit. Glad I made it out OK, myself, a person with a kind heart willing to help out.

Anyway, I agree to a point, about the media, that too much is too much, I for one don't care what celebrity is doing H, or fooling around with who. Don;t care.

But I want to know when someone's hiding 230 bodies, when Bush visits China, China's response to our policies. As a writer, even a citizen, I like to know. I check out cnn.com fist thing in the morning while having breakfast here at work. Then I come here. Now I'm going to go play a game of chess and maybe even get some work done.

God bless America.

Justa Man

02-22-2002, 02:14 PM

yo Ev...i pm'ed you.

dfedorko@mindspring.com

03-21-2002, 11:11 AM

When you can go 100 days then you have a record.

Damian

fa_jing

03-21-2002, 12:29 PM

Usurped!!!!

-FJ :)

Dronak

03-21-2002, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by fa_jing
My record still stands, I see. Just a challenge to you guys to beat my 37 days with no emissions.

For what it's worth, when I first went to college, I had no emissions (as you put it) between when I arrived and when I went home on fall break, about 7 weeks. That would be about 50 days, give or take a bit. I haven't gone that long ever since though. A few days to a week maybe isn't really any problem for me should I choose that. Longer would require a little more dedication to the decision though. If I did it before though, I'm sure I could do it again.

Originally posted by fa_jing
This may go against everything I've said so far, but after 1 year with no sex IMO you are allowed to get a hooker.

Oh, I've been going *much* longer than that without sex. Without emissions, no, but without sex, yes. This is a bit of a touchy subject for me though, so I'll leave it at that.

Justa Man

03-21-2002, 08:19 PM

a bit touchy? yea, i bet it is. :D
so it's been about 6 weeks now, i think. i can't really say i've had too tough a time with it. ok, only 34+ months to go. how is everyone else holing up that took the oath?

Kumkuat

03-21-2002, 08:36 PM

good news for me is that my girl friend said that I don't turn her on anymore. So I can finally do this. Yay!

bamboo_ leaf

03-21-2002, 08:51 PM

Thanks for the laugh. :)

This is good?

Nexus

03-21-2002, 09:58 PM

It is important to build up a means of meditation if you are actually going to do anything useful with this stored up sexual energy. Otherwise you will just end up losing a good portion of it through buildup and nocturnal emission.

dfedorko@mindspring.com

03-24-2002, 06:43 AM

I am in agreement with Nexus. In order to complete the 100 ordeal (my wife was haapy too) you need to mediate and do Qigong exercise otherwise the training is for nothing.

Damian

TaiChiBob

03-24-2002, 07:10 AM

Greetings..

Interesting post.. interesting perceptions.. it seems that many of my students that start this path focus on the abstinence rather than on the process.. if you understand the process you will have little time to focus on missing out on self-gratification (partnered or unilateral).. just as in the "tea parable", why keep pouring tea into a full cup?.. when nature signals you that the "cup" is full (nocturnal emissions), favor the balance of yin/yang.. share the experience with a partner just as the design and function of the body suggests.. There is a great body of Tantric discipline that compliments the paths we have chosen..

Now, at age 51, it is easier to go 3,4 or as much as 6 months without emitting (but, not without making love).. here, i refer those interested to the Tantric disciplines.. Making love can, and should be, balanced between physical and spiritual union.. Partners that share the same understandings, same paths/goals can support each other.. they can build technique and sex into a most powerful meditation, a yin and yang merging that forms a more complete Whole, the two merge as One, a higher being.. a prolonged orgasmic experience (2-4 hours) that need not conclude in a lot of squirting and squirming.. rather, the experience is a portal into higher perceptions of our potential..

Here, is where we make difficult choices.. to submit to socially indoctrinated images of partners dominated by sex.. or, choosing partners according to common purpose, according to principles beyond the standard visual/tactile stimulation implied by society.. In other words, we must be willing to comitt to the path fully, including wisely choosing partners..

If you're counting or keeping score i think you may be veering off-course, nature will let you know what the score is.. By the way, i began this discipline of self-control in the early '80s, and the rewards are clear and worth the effort.. (and, when nature clues you that the time is right for expressing your "fullness", it transcends any of the "back-seat" adventures of my youth)..

be well..

dfedorko@mindspring.com

03-24-2002, 11:44 AM

Both you and Nexus make me feel like I need to back to college to learn how to write again. It has been a long time. Anyway, being 55 what you say is true, the older you are the longer you can abstain from sexual in....course. And again I am in agreement with you if you are saying that you can make love without ejaculation. And it goes without saying that the most beautiful girls in the world are not necessarily the best lovers. TaiChiBob, I enjoyed your "two cents".

Damian

Stacey

03-24-2002, 08:14 PM

38 days? Hmmm...sounds like a bad movie I heard about. Well, I think it might be easier in winter than spring. Way of nature and all. The trouble with lots of excercise with me is that it up the testosterone and makes me *****. Its the whole grrr.. feeling the get after doing say, 100 push ups.

I have one thing in the daoist arts correct...the whatever attitude. because I wont be flying on Wu Dan mountain any time soon.

fa_jing

03-25-2002, 11:31 AM

The score thing is just a challenge, like I said I'm used to dealing with close-minded doubters. Obviously it's a personal endeavour, and depends on the stimulus you may have in your life. I will say that I feel I have completely conquered, acquired the ability to subordinate the sex urge within myself if I desire to do so. And going 37 days made me feel this way while going 21 days, my previous best still had left me with a doubt or two. Many Taoist and Indian sources agree that it is normal healthy function of a man to "emit," nocturnal or otherwise every 30 days or so.
I also agree, this is to be practiced in conjuction with still and moving meditiation, as well as normal vigorous exercise if the full benefit is to be realized.

-FJ