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prana
03-04-2002, 07:01 PM
Following our last conversation, you were interested in a documentary you watched on some Northern Indian Yogis raising body heat. Here are some documented experiments, interpreted by Western people...

From Harvard University


But then, in the mid-1980s, Benson and his colleagues began noticing another curious aspect of the relaxation response. Patients who chose to repeat a word or phrase that conformed to their religious or secular beliefs were more likely to continue the practice and therefore to experience beneficial physiological results than those who chose a word or phrase to which they were indifferent.
Benson had earlier witnessed the dramatic effects of coupling the relaxation response with spiritual beliefs while studying Tibetan monks who practice an advanced form of meditation called gTum-mo Yoga. During this meditation, monks are able to raise their skin temperatures 17 degrees while maintaining normal core body temperature.

"What they did was to go into the relaxation response and then visualize heat going up and down the center of the body. So they took the basic quiet state and added visualization to create heat," Benson says.


"The relaxation response is not a technique. It's a physiological state brought about by many techniques." -- Herbert Benson


Benson believes that the brain's ability to create visual images, and to treat those images as real, may lie at the center of a type of mind-body healing.
"You are wired in your brain to know what it is to experience feeling well. You can reconstitute that image," says Benson, who has labeled this process "remembered wellness."

After years of struggling against prevailing scientific wisdom, Benson's research is finally being embraced by many in the medical establishment. In the fall, a National Institutes of Health Technology Assessment conference encouraged the acceptance of behavioral and relaxation therapies for treating chronic pain and insomnia.

In his most recent research, Benson has continued to explore the connection between the relaxation response, spiritual beliefs and health. He and his colleagues at the Deaconess Mind/Body Medical Institute have found that people who report feeling "spiritual" also report fewer medical problems.




Besides hypnosis and biofeedback, there's a third proven method of improving mental control over our physical body -- meditation. Scientific research on the use of meditation practices in healing stretches back to field research by Western scientists and academics in the 1930s on the mental powers of Indian yogis and Japanese Zen monks. Researchers were interested in testing claims that during meditation these adepts could, at will and on demand, control autonomic bodily functions like heartbeat, skin temperature, blood pressure, brain wave activity and breathing. Enough good research was produced to suggest that at least some humans, through years of intensive training, could indeed perform amazing feats of bodily control using only the mind.

In the late 1950s, psychologists Basu Bagchi of the U. of Michigan Medical Center and M.A. Wegner of UCLA spent five months traveling through India with a carload of scientific instruments that could register brain waves, skin temperature and skin conductance, respiration and finger blood-volume changes. Their studies appeared in serious American scientific journals and their conclusions, while cautious, suggested the image of the Indian fakir as faker was not always accurate. Others were encouraged to continue the research.

Researchers at the famed Menninger Foundation in Kansas tested one Indian yogi who could, at will, produce with his mind an 11 degree Fahrenheit difference between the left and right sides of the same palm, with one side turning pink from heat and the other turning gray from cold. Demonstrating his control over his heartbeat, the yogi also voluntarily produced, on demand, a heart fillibration that raced at 306 beats a minutes and lasted 16 seconds. Even more impressive was an experiment with a man with no yogic training who demonstrated the ability to voluntarily stop his heart -- to produce cardiac arrest -- on demand. EKG tests showed his heartbeat did indeed disappear completely. (As he began to faint from lack of blood, the subject would take a deep breath and revive himself).

In the early 1970s, landmark research on meditation conducted by Dr. Herbert Benson and Keith Wallace appeared in Scientific American and Science magazine at a time when thousands of young American were embracing Transcendental Meditation. Benson, a cardiologist and Harvard Medical School professor, pioneered research into the "relaxation response," a stress-reduced condition often generated during meditation. He spent his career researching the physiological effects of stress management and is the author of five books and more than 100 scientific papers on the subject. (Ironically, for years he resisted publicly practicing what he preached -- the relaxation response. Why? Apparently because he didn’t want to be criticized for being an unscientific "believer" in squishy, New Age nonsense. Which makes you wonder: if a Harvard professor is that afraid of what his peers think of such a relatively mild unorthodox idea, how much more pressure would an iconoclastic thinker form a smaller university feel about advancing evidence for mind-body healing? Today, Benson is President of Harvard's Mind/Body Medical Institute.)

In 1981, Benson and a group of researchers from the Harvard Medical School instrumented three Tibetan monks in India practicing a form of meditation called Tummo. The monks could take a blanket soaked in cold water, wrap it around themselves, and sit in the snow on a mountain top in a meditative trance. In the Harvard tests, the monks meditated for 55 minutes in an unheated, cold room, using their minds to raise their internal body temperature... All three monks produced dramatic body temperature changes. One 50-year old monk was able to raise the temperature of his toes by 15 degrees Fahrenheit; another 59-year old monk raised his finger and toe temperatures 11 and 12 degrees Fahrenheit respectively, and raised the overall temperature of the room he was meditating in by 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit.

hope that helps unlock some of your doubts, Fu-Pow.

Xebsball
03-04-2002, 11:06 PM
Thats impressive, very good.

Raising the temperature with the mind is very real, as a matter of fact i can do it myself at a lower level. Other people that i know that do qigong experience this same thing. But of course not 17 degrees, i am not at that level, it must take years and years of training to achive that.
One thing i have no idea how to do is actually puting down the temperature, i only know how to raise.


I also recall a qigong master on tv that would heal his patients with some wet towels. He would warm up the towels and use them to heal. I think his hands would go to 90 degrees Celsius or something, cant remember the exact number.

bamboo_ leaf
03-04-2002, 11:18 PM
Interesting did they ever explain the how the temperature was raised in the monks body while they where sitting still ? :)

prana
03-05-2002, 04:59 PM
My crack at a bad joke - I can tell you but I'll have to kill you :D

I know I know very bad joke. Sorry Bamboo, I am not allowed to tell. Hope you understand ...

Shooter
03-05-2002, 05:12 PM
Herbert Benson's book, the Relaxation Response (Avon Books) is a very interesting read.

bamboo_ leaf
03-05-2002, 05:22 PM
No problem, :) just seems strange that they would comment about the heat and not the process which would explain how it was done. Especially if the temperatures achieved where higher then their core body temperature.

Nexus
03-05-2002, 05:31 PM
It's because a monk's favorite food is texas chilli.

prana
03-05-2002, 05:57 PM
Good 1

:D
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Fu-Pow
03-07-2002, 12:27 PM
Sorry it took so long to reply.

I looked up Dr. Benson on Google and found the mind/body institute.

Apparently, he published a paper in the very prestigious journal Nature back in 1982. It was about these monks.

I'm going to try to get it but I'll have to go to the university as its too old to be on-line.

Thanks for the info prana. Very interesting.