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i see that in choy lay fut forms the stylist make a hard breathing like the " ha " sound . there is more differents types of breathing ?
GOLDEN ARMOR
03-12-2002, 08:02 AM
I got this from the Chan Family site, written by Sisuk Howard Choy. The following translation is from Chapter 134 of Chan Yiu-Chi's hand written manuscript, "The Source of Learning of Chan Heung Kung - the Originator of Choy Lee Fut".
1) Wag6 (Wak), representing the Tiger & is used in movements like Fu Jao (Tiger Claw), Seung Fu Jao (Double Tiger Claws), & Mang Fu Tuo Shan (Ferocious Tiger Pushing the Mountain)...
2) Dig1 (Dik), representing the Leopard & is used in kicking like the Da Geuk (Strike Kick), Fei Geuk (Flying Kick) & Tak Geuk (Kick Strike)...
3) Yig1 (Yik), representing the Dragon & is used in movements like Cheng Ngan Cheu (Strike to Eye), Seung Jian Cheu (Double Arrows Strike) & Seung Lung Chet Hai (Double Dragon Going Out to Sea)...
4) Hag3 (Hak), representing the Snake & is used in movements like Leu Yam Cheu (Strike to Groin), Yam Wad (Digging Up the Groin) & Kung Sum Cheu (Attacking Strike to the Heart)...
5) Hog6 (hok), representing the Crane & is used in movements like Hok Jeu (Crane's Beak) & Ding Jeu (Nail Strike)...
The number at the end of each sound refers to the 6 tones in Cantonese adopted by the dictionary published by the Hua-nam (Southern China) Normal University in Guangzhou.
It's interesting to note that in this manuscript intended for the eyes of the family only, there are 5 sounds instead of 3 commonly known ones & Chan Yiu-Chi did not refer the sounds to any revolutionary codes or practice but only to represent the 5 Animals or the Wuxing, the 5 Agents of Transformation in Chinese Philosophy.
The sounds are also related to Yin/Yang breathing because the 5 Animals have a correlation to the 5 Elements (Wuxing), which in turn, has its root in the complementary opposite forces of Nature. They are correlated in a cyclical manner: Yin/Yang = 5 Elements = 5 Animals = 5 SOUNDS = 5 Animals = 5 Elements = Yin/Yang
In short, the sounds that we make, the movements that we do & the intentions that we express are all related to each other.
Written by Sisuk Howard Choy
tomcat
03-12-2002, 09:31 AM
Hi everyone,
FYI the sounds you refer to are the same for Hung-gar, except for Hok , we use a whoop sound .
as you said they are tied to the 5 animal and elements and are said the vibrate certain organs in the body ,raising chi levels, and regulating chi flo inthe meridians, and aiding to expell toxins .
:)
yutyeesam
03-12-2002, 11:15 AM
Why do LKH/TMW folks say "SIK" during tsop and other folks go "YIK"? I know it doesn't matter at all, but just curious.
Jamesbond_007
03-12-2002, 11:19 AM
I may be wrong but I was told that the "sik" sound was used when you executed a killing strike.
So I take it from the article that the ha sound is not really a CLF sound?
Fu-Pow
03-12-2002, 03:24 PM
"ha" = hak?
sik, yik I think that are the same but there is alot of cantonese dialects and the same sounds different is your sifu is from one place or another. I have read some terms and after heard of cantonese man and sounds different from what I imagined.
I think we must take a chinese language course someday:)
Galadriel
03-13-2002, 04:57 AM
We use sik when we do a single chop choy in forms, when we do a series of chop choys we shout sik, yik, sik, yik, sik, yik, and the same if there are two chop choys following each other in a form.
And when we're in horse stance and turn to the left (or right) we shout yik
Galadriel
i'd was speaking of the hard breathing types of choy lay fut when you execute your techniques , not the choy lay fut's sounds .
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