this is a long shot anybody know about sanfrans kungfu in the late60s/early70s

[diego]

I'm looking for info on a Y.c.wong a teacher of a mantis style, could be southern but i doubt it. i have some techniques and his name is on the bio from the deceased teacher of what i practise.

also if you have knowledge of goldengate back then what do you know about the legend of HARRYWU-NG-YIM-MING.
One of you wrote to me a year ago, do you still post, the old threads are hard to find, if impossible, you gave me a chinese name of a old friend of harry's, please help if you see this, hehe..

[FIRE HAWK]

diego


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any one lnow hybrid kajukenbo/hopga....HOP GA MASTER HARRY NG and his student "KAIDO
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Does anyone know what technical EXCHANGE, transpired between HUNGA SIFU WONG FEI HUNG
AND HOPGA SIFU WONG YAN LAM???..
I read hopga gave longfists and hungga tigerklaws.
anybody know????????
posted 04-09-01 07:31 PM From: THE LAND IN THIS STATE OUT YONDER I DWELL!!!
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anyone know hopgar??????????????????????????????
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"kaido" english nickname?????
Born 1948 july 13??? learned native style from his father in the philipines from age 13-20.
specialized in kajukenbo/hopgar...
learnt kajukenbo from adriano.d emperado in hawaii.
white crane/hopga from harry ng in san francisco.
?mantis with w.c.wong and burokukai from richard kim in san fran, as well as shorinryu from
latino gonzalez in the philipines.
two of his main students are Roy Buchanan and philip gelinas both from montreal canada..kaido
was killed in a nightclub in the early 80's????
he had two or three schools in montreal in the
70's.....any info
also harry ng chinese general during ww2? i think..all i know from a hop gar book is and i
quote "harry ng overstepped his boundarys in the
early 70's in san francisco......i am quite sure
he was a famous martial artist in the southern circles in the 30-40's??......


i am third generation after kaido? his kajukenbo/hopgar his a interesting hybrid with
a mantis flavor hopga frame and kajukenbo frame..
i only got two thru the first section of the second form, and learnt 13 of the 48 coordination drills wich hold the multiples of the applications in the 13??? forms........luckily
i got the text with 31 of the drills??and i have like 20 minutes of kaido and students demonstrating.

please help, i am no longer in contact with my
teacher, and kaidos organization is scattered
if you can think of links or anything much appreciative.....



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Steeeve


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Howdy Diego

I trained in Kajukenbo (Philip & costas)I learned a lot of stuff(Forms,self defense technique ....)
Maybe we can talk more about that my e mail...

send me a e mail



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04-11-2001 01:01 AM



diego


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howdy steeeve look forward to your reply...
todd4@thesource.com



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04-11-2001 03:12 AM



diego


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steeve did you get my e-mail...
b.c is i eh



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04-11-2001 10:00 AM

[FIRE HAWK]

This person named Steeeve might be the person you contacted .Look up his name under members maybe his email is there .

[GOLDEN ARMOR]

Diego,

do u mean Master Y.C. Wong from Sanfrancisco, he teaches Hung ga but i heard one of his older students knew S. Mantis. This is his website www.tigercrane.com he is a student of GM Lam Jo & they are both great M. artists.

[FutsanDan]

I know of WC Wong.... He teaches Hung Gar, Some northern weapons, Ba Gua, and Tai Chi... He has a website.... just do a search on "WC Wong Hung Gar"

[diego]

maybe , i know about W.C.Wong but thiers this old article in french and it says yc mantis sanfrancisco in the seventie's, then it lists the other styles.
but steeves teacher the main guy in my style thru short emial contact said the teacher im enquiring about didnt mention a ycwong and the article could be wrong, and that his teacher higly bigged up wcwong??!.

maybe its spm but i dont know looks more like sevenstar my techniques, do they use the hookingmantis grip hand and the heeladduction stance prevalent in 7star?.
thanks tho eh...

[FIRE HAWK]

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[diego]

thier's only two picture's tho
so i can't really tell on basic technique, i'll check it out
:D