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Fu-Pow
03-29-2001, 01:17 AM
Is Hop Gar (aka Ape and Crane) anything like Choy Lay Fut? It seems like they might look a lot although I've never seen Hop Gar. It seems like an Ape would have large swinging arm movements and the crane would have deceptive foot work...sounds a lot like Choy Lay Fut.
Also, what does Hop mean, does it refer to the Hop family?

Fu-Pow

Fu-Pow
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HopGar
03-29-2001, 03:38 PM
Here's my school's web page: www.hopgar.com. (http://www.hopgar.com.) If ya need any more info, you can email me (Tiefighter15@juno.com) and I'll try to answer anything else.

Zvika

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HopGar
03-29-2001, 03:40 PM
Oh yeah, one more thing...hop gar means "family of the knight"

Zvika

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CLFNole
03-29-2001, 05:23 PM
Choy Lay Fut and Hop Gar are similar in fact that they are long arm southern styles.

Hop Gar is similar and cousins with Lama Pai and Bak Hok Pai (White Crane).

Peace.

HopGar
03-29-2001, 06:41 PM
Wrong CLFNole. Hop Gar is Tibetan. Read the history at our school webpage www.hopgar.com. (http://www.hopgar.com.)

Zvika

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count
03-29-2001, 06:49 PM
Lama Pai is also Tibetan which is the southern part of China. If you have not checked this style out I think you would find it very interesting.

;)

HopGar
03-29-2001, 06:55 PM
Oops....I guess I forgot China's geography. Count, got any webpages? I apologize for my ignorance.

Zvika

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count
03-29-2001, 07:10 PM
Lama Crane is hard crane style, also called Hop Gar. It is known for it's boxing skills and triangler stepping. Very aggresive style always retreating forward. They have some very unique training methods like lama blocks which are great for upper body and power developement. You might check out Wah Lun Choi's website. (http://www.liuhopafa.com) He teaches Liu Ho Pa Fa, Bagua, Hsing I and Lama Pai in Chicago. I'm not sure how good the website is but it might get you started.
:)

CLFNole
03-29-2001, 10:29 PM
You should do some research yourself before telling someone their wrong.

Hop Gar, Lama Pai and Bak Hok Pai (White Crane) all originated from Tibet (at the time part of China). Hop Gar and Lama Pai are basically the same style and share the same history both mentioning the monk Sing Lung and Wong Yan Lum. White Crane is also close to and related with the other two.

I am not sure of the order of which came first but it is quite similar to the relationship between Hung Gar, Sam Chien and Hung Fut, as well as Pak Mei, Lung Ying and Yau Kung Mun.

Peace.

lkfmdc
03-30-2001, 06:52 AM
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HopGar
04-01-2001, 02:49 PM
Ok ok ok ok...I'm wrong. I apologize for my stupidity.

Zvika

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HopGar
04-01-2001, 04:09 PM
Thanks for the web page. I was really interesting.

Zvika

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
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