Black Jack
05-13-2002, 08:09 PM
Here ya go bro, while I am looking for the other stuff, this is a GREAT academic website on military combatives. Besides a great selection of historical articles on that page, there are two items of note.
1. "The Secrets of Ju Jitsu"-They are the complete 7 books by Captin Allan Smith-WWI h2h chief combat instructor for the Infantry School at Camp Benning, 1918.
There is some great close combat material in these texts, a lot of the same information shown way before Fairbairn and Applegate, though with a few name changes and a focus on more of the full ju jitsu aspect, close combat actually was often very paried down ju jitsu/judo with a raging hard on, simple nage waza and atemi waza stressed, though rough and tumble fighting, boxing, wrestling, savate, european sword and dagger methods and a host of other systems came into play by the different instructors in the field.
I actually practice the Smith material with my buds, I have the books printed out and put down in a binder, people need to get past the pictures and bag out the material before they comment.
You can also see the Japenese Death Lock in those books, the hold using the wrist bone that we talked about before, if anything you will find the old pics interesting.
2. The 1942 21-150-I do not like this version of the manuel as much as I like theFairbairn/Applegate/O'Kelly/Biddle/Styers/Brown material of the time, this is more of a classical war-time ju jitsu system, though it has some real good stuff in it, you will notice there is no striking section, its incorporated I believe in the techs, or it was not downloaded, I don't know, either way its got some juice, not close combat though, kind of like how Defendu-a more classical ju jitsu system, changed into close combat-silent killing for the war, or if you look at it in reverse, how Combato turned into Miyami-ryu ju jitsu, Combato was developed and taught I believe by Bill Underwood to the Marines stationed in the land of Oz who were shipping out to fight the Japenese in New Guinea, to combat their reputed fierce ju jitsu/judo unarmed fighting skills, thus when you break the name down-Combato-it means to combat-judo-at least I believe so.
This manuel actually IS Danzan-ryu/Okazaki-ryu Ju Jitsu, Proffessor Okazaki at the needed time, a very needed time due to the nature of the war, helped develop the manuel, not only helped but also trained soliders in Hawawii for awhile(sp?), Proffessor Okazaki rules, who could not love a guy who incorporated the native american system of Lua (bone-breaking) and spanish dirk methods of knifefighting into his japenese system, things he picked up on the island.
The link is-The Electronic Journal of Non-Lethal Combatives/great site!
www.ejmas.com/jnc/jncindex.htm
P.S. Braden-If you are interested, I will not post it here, I can send you the link to the infamous and banned book published in the 70's by Paladin Press, called the "Hitman", Paladin Press paid huge bucks for it, as it was written by a real "cleaner".
It is a eye-opener on how dangerous some people are, it is a advice/training manuel for the wannbe assassin, it details some simple and very gruesome methods of removal in it, far beyond that aspect, one of the things I gleened from it, is how scary someone can be who can remove themselves on a psychological level from the action, as if they were just talking about what brand of soda you like to drink.
Not to be morbid, but I just thought I would share, not for everybody here, to much serious info, I also have a CIA manuel on killing as well that I would not put out.
Peace and be safe.
1. "The Secrets of Ju Jitsu"-They are the complete 7 books by Captin Allan Smith-WWI h2h chief combat instructor for the Infantry School at Camp Benning, 1918.
There is some great close combat material in these texts, a lot of the same information shown way before Fairbairn and Applegate, though with a few name changes and a focus on more of the full ju jitsu aspect, close combat actually was often very paried down ju jitsu/judo with a raging hard on, simple nage waza and atemi waza stressed, though rough and tumble fighting, boxing, wrestling, savate, european sword and dagger methods and a host of other systems came into play by the different instructors in the field.
I actually practice the Smith material with my buds, I have the books printed out and put down in a binder, people need to get past the pictures and bag out the material before they comment.
You can also see the Japenese Death Lock in those books, the hold using the wrist bone that we talked about before, if anything you will find the old pics interesting.
2. The 1942 21-150-I do not like this version of the manuel as much as I like theFairbairn/Applegate/O'Kelly/Biddle/Styers/Brown material of the time, this is more of a classical war-time ju jitsu system, though it has some real good stuff in it, you will notice there is no striking section, its incorporated I believe in the techs, or it was not downloaded, I don't know, either way its got some juice, not close combat though, kind of like how Defendu-a more classical ju jitsu system, changed into close combat-silent killing for the war, or if you look at it in reverse, how Combato turned into Miyami-ryu ju jitsu, Combato was developed and taught I believe by Bill Underwood to the Marines stationed in the land of Oz who were shipping out to fight the Japenese in New Guinea, to combat their reputed fierce ju jitsu/judo unarmed fighting skills, thus when you break the name down-Combato-it means to combat-judo-at least I believe so.
This manuel actually IS Danzan-ryu/Okazaki-ryu Ju Jitsu, Proffessor Okazaki at the needed time, a very needed time due to the nature of the war, helped develop the manuel, not only helped but also trained soliders in Hawawii for awhile(sp?), Proffessor Okazaki rules, who could not love a guy who incorporated the native american system of Lua (bone-breaking) and spanish dirk methods of knifefighting into his japenese system, things he picked up on the island.
The link is-The Electronic Journal of Non-Lethal Combatives/great site!
www.ejmas.com/jnc/jncindex.htm
P.S. Braden-If you are interested, I will not post it here, I can send you the link to the infamous and banned book published in the 70's by Paladin Press, called the "Hitman", Paladin Press paid huge bucks for it, as it was written by a real "cleaner".
It is a eye-opener on how dangerous some people are, it is a advice/training manuel for the wannbe assassin, it details some simple and very gruesome methods of removal in it, far beyond that aspect, one of the things I gleened from it, is how scary someone can be who can remove themselves on a psychological level from the action, as if they were just talking about what brand of soda you like to drink.
Not to be morbid, but I just thought I would share, not for everybody here, to much serious info, I also have a CIA manuel on killing as well that I would not put out.
Peace and be safe.