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GeneChing
05-24-2002, 11:34 AM
These lyrics are a different translation than the ones sifu Wing Lam did in his book on Moi Fah with Ted Mancuso. They came from the same source material, but I re-translated them for his video series. If some one is particularly industrious, they can copy them out of that book and post them below.
Here's that book
http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/bcn-213u.html

MOI FAH: SHAOLIN #7 (The plum flower)
1. Shaolin #7 beginning stance.
2. Stomp, cat, double hand push.
3. Lift stance, black crow spreads its wings.
4. Step up, double hand push.
5. Left turn, step up, double hand push.
6. Double hook, single kick to head.
7. Land, left turn, double fist block.
8. Double cross fist block, single kick to head.
9. Left bow stance, left straight punch.
10. Turn around, grab, left straight punch.
11. Turn around, spear hand, single kick to head.
12. Land, hidden foot, fairy scatters flowers.
13. Left kick, hidden foot, fairy scatters flowers.
14. Leg tripping, left jump, bow and arrow stance.
15. Chopping fist, tornado kick.
16. Land, slap the ground to raise the dust.
17. Left bow and arrow, lean out double punch.
18. Three directions: heel push and strikes from single leg stance.
19. Turn, three directions: heel push and strikes from single leg stance again.
20. Fierce tiger comes out of the mountain to grab the sheep.
21. Right kick, cross leg strike.
22. Strike upward, turn, lazy dragon stretches its spine.
23. Turn and push, front and back sweep, block and punch from horse.
24. Fierce tiger comes out of the mountain to grab the sheep.
25. Right kick, cross leg strike.
26. Strike upward, turn, lazy dragon stretches its spine.
27. Turn body, stomp, punch straight down.
28. Tornado kick.
29. Land, horse stance, hanging elbow technique.
30. Shivering rooster, single leg stance.
31. Land, sleeve wiping palm, side punch.
32. Quick stomps, step forward, block.
33. Turn around, golden rooster stands on one leg, left hook, right palm.
34. Retreat, turn around, side chop.
35. Step back, kick twice.
36. Ring the bell and beat the drum, double hand push.
37. Little boy salutes the Buddha.
38. Turn body, straight low kick.
39. Right turn, land, double pointed fists.
40. Retreat, open right hand, left spear hand, finish form.

NorthernShaolin
05-24-2002, 12:19 PM
Gene,

Appears to be the same lyrics, pretty close like in #30, Shivering Rooster vs what I translated as Cold Duck and like # 35 Kick twice vs what I have as Double kick.

An alternate lyric in #38, Straight Low Kick; where I have Brother Lo Kicks.

Another alternate lyric in #39, Double Pointed Fist; where I have Seven Star Fist.

#36 is a lyric that I do not have. Neither does LTH or YSW have it listed.

Interesting side note that LTH does not have # 31, 32, 33. Instead his disciples perform one lyric; Vicious (Fierce) Tiger comes out of mountain and Kills (grabs) the Lamb (sheep) before going on to # 34.

David Jamieson
05-24-2002, 12:40 PM
Well, I'll just copy and paste instead of typing that out. :D
a Scanner with ocr tech rules!

This is from the book by Kwong Wing Lam and Ted Mancuso


1. number seven beginning stance
2. stomp, cat, double push
3. lift stance, black Crow splits wings
4. step forward, double hand push
5. left turn, step forward, double push
6. double hook, single kick to face
7. land, left turn, double fist blocks
8. double cross.fist block, single kick to face
9. left bow stance, left straight punch
10. turn around, grab, left punch
11. turn around, spearhand, single kick
12. land, hidden foot, fairy scatters flowers
13. left kick, hidden foot, fairy scatters flowers
14. leg tripping, left jump, pull the bow stance
15. chopping fist, tornado kick
16. land, slap floor so dust rises
17. left bow stance, lean, double punch
18. three directions: heel push and strikes from single leg stance
19. turn, three directions strike again
20. fierce tiger leaves mountain to grab lamb
21. right kick, cross-leg strike
22. strike upward, turn, lazy dragon stretches spine
23. turn and push, front and back sweep, block and punch from horse
24. fierce tiger leaves mountain to grab Iamb
25. right kick, cross-leg strike
26. strike upward, turn, lazy dragon stretches spine
27. turn body, stomp, punch straight down
28. tornado kick
29. land, sit in horse, hanging elbow
30. shivering chicken, single leg stance
31. land, wipe sleeve, side punch
32. quick stomps, step forward, block
33. turn around, golden chicken stands, left hook, right palm
34. retreat, turn around, side chop
35. step back, kick twice
36. ring bell and beat drum, double striking palm
37. little boy salutes the Buddha
38. turn body, straight low kick
39. right turn, land, double pointed fists
40. retreat, open right hand, left spearhand, finish set


When I learned the set, 29 was a left bow and arrow while striking out to the side.

Also on 37 Learned a low heel kick then turn and do the next kick be fore turning into the double fists.

peace

diego
05-25-2002, 01:53 AM
Another alternate lyric in #39, Double Pointed Fist; where I have Seven Star Fist. ""

What does the term sevenstar mean in nsl, i have winglams #7 book, so this thread makes sence.
Things like blackcrow stretches its wings, makes sence.
I dont know where you would start, it would be interesting i would think, once you guys have all your rhymes listed, maybe you could break down some of the more esoteric and universal terms in your raps:) / keywords in nsl, and those that other styles use, cuz for me and im sure for many the meta4 of sets is a interesting but not fully conprehendable aspect of kf as a relative junior!.

r.(shaolin)
05-25-2002, 01:19 PM
In the Shaolin Lohan Men

GeneChing
05-28-2002, 10:43 AM
Thanks Kung Lek! It's worthy of note that I had access to TEd's translation since his book preceded our video, but I intentionally tried to reinterpret from the original Chinese.

Here's a snippet of an article I'm developing for our next issue about seven stars..
"And Zhen Wu’s sword, Santai Qixing Jian, was added to the celestial armory. Santai Qixing means Three Platforms, Seven Stars. The Seven Stars form the constellation that Westerners call the Big Dipper. Three Platforms is another northern constellation. Both recall Zhen Wu’s rule of the north. Zhen Wu’s Seven Star sword is one reason why modern straight swords still bear a seven-star pattern."

diego
05-28-2002, 12:36 PM
On a slightly offtopic question, Gene do you know about the origin of the term Shooting Star Fist?. I know one school of hungga from HoLapTin Shortly uses this term in one of thier sets, also that it is a main feature type term in tibet lions roar. I'm really curious on how far back this term go's!?.

GeneChing
05-29-2002, 10:20 AM
Well, I'd have to play with the characters to be sure. I've heard meteor fist which is equivalent to shooting star and has an obvious analogous quality to the movement. But also, there are references to the three star gods of Taoism - fortune, longevity and emolument. That's a lot harder to translate since you need the cultural context.

Shaolinlueb
03-19-2008, 08:34 AM
here is me messing around with moy fah.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y0L1IVrt5Jc
i mess up, i know. i am posting this for fun, not for critique.

Lokhopkuen
03-20-2008, 06:29 AM
here is me messing around with moy fah.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y0L1IVrt5Jc
i mess up, i know. i am posting this for fun, not for critique.

Great energy and nice foundation! We do it with a slightly different flavor
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7VSaIGDd8jg

Shaolinlueb
03-20-2008, 07:40 AM
not bad. that is the 3rd variation of moi fa i have seen. similar to the energy of the 2nd time i saw it performed differently.