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mixxalot
05-24-2002, 01:10 PM
What are your favorite all time martial arts movies?

Here are a few of mine: not in order of ranking

1. Bruce Lee- Enter the Dragon, Chinese Connection, Fists of Fury
2. Jackie Chan:
Drunken Master, Legend of Drunken Master, Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin,
Who am I

3. Jet Li: Once Upon a Time in China, New Legend of Shaolin (Red Dragon)

4. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
5. Iron Monkey

Nevermind
05-24-2002, 01:49 PM
Ok, here we go:

1.Chinese Connection
2.Disciples of Death
3. Five Deadly Venoms
4.Return of the Dragon
5.Crippled Avengers
6.Invincible Shaolin
7.Fist of Legend
8.Drunken Master 2
9. Shaolin Executioner
10.Master Killer

I just numbered them for the heck of it. They are actually in no particular order. Love em' all! Peace.

Chang Style Novice
05-24-2002, 02:01 PM
Here's a few I really like---again!

The Victim, Knockabout, Drunken Master 1 and 2, Mad Monkey Kungfu, Dragons Forever, Wheels on Meals, Fist of Legend, Nig Trouble in Little China, Kid With the Golden Arms, Five Fingers of Death, Game of Death (for heresy's sake, I'll point out this is my favorite Bruce Lee movie), When Taekwondo Strikes, The Buddhist Fist

TenTigers
05-24-2002, 02:29 PM
in no specific order;
Gymkata
Crippled Kung-Fu -actually, I;m not sure of that title, but they actually have these guys with physical deformities doing really bad kung-fu
can't think of any others that rank that high, except the made for TV movie from Kung-Fu with David Carradine and Brandon Lee-total crap

Silumkid
05-24-2002, 03:10 PM
I think the one with the two cripples; one with no arms, one with no legs; was called Crippled Masters.

Some of my faves in no particular order:

Just about anything with Jet Li, especially Fist of Legend, Once Upon a Time in China, Tai Chi Master...and so on.
Project A 1 and 2
Police Story series
Dreadnaught
Prodigal Son
Green Hornet (Chinese version)
Deadend of Besiegers
Fearless Hyena

So many more....to list them all would take more time than I have right now. This is just a sample.

Dark Knight
05-25-2002, 02:37 AM
Big trouble in little china

Former castleva
05-25-2002, 06:00 AM
Letīs say Enter the Dragon,for kung-fu flicks I have seen are a few.
Sidenote for Dark Knight:You like Batman?
Returns is my favourite.

dezhen2001
05-25-2002, 06:11 AM
Fav movies... that's a tough one! heres a small sample:

Drunken Master <--- 1st KF movie i ever saw
Police Story 1 and 2
Project A 1 and2
DM2
Miracles

OUATIC
FOL
BFB
Taichi Master
Fong Sai Yuk 1 and 2

Blade <--- 'Dao' with Chiu Man Cheuk not Wesley :D
Stormriders
A Man called Hero
2000 AD <--- Aaron Kwok

Mad Moneky Kung Fu
5 Venoms
Magnificent Butcher
Iron Fisted Monk
Zu: warriors form magic mountain
36 Chambers of Shaolin
Shaolin Drunken Monk...

far too many more! :D

david

Tae Li
05-25-2002, 06:12 AM
errrrrr, Im with the Kid, i LIKE ANYTHING with my man Jet IN IT!!!:D with or without his clothes;) kiicking or assss or just sitting there;) i dont mind, as long as he is IN IT! but my fav would have to be Fist Of Legend without a doubt.

I like a few Jacki movies, Drunken master, and a few recent hollywood ones...

A few Bruce Lee onces, specifically, Enter the Dragon, ummm, and the occasional other martial arts flick.

oh, and I LOVE ALL THE AMERICAN NINJA SEQUELS ESPECIALLY AMERICAN NINJA 5! so sue me:p is that the proper spelling for sue? lol, never mind.

Tae Li;) lady of the forum;)

dezhen2001
05-25-2002, 06:15 AM
American Ninja 5 was real funny :D Mr Miyagi made an appearance in it if i remember correctly... :D

I remember hwen i was a kid (11 or so) and saw the 1st American Ninja... it was cool :cool: then i grew up!

david

The Willow Sword
05-25-2002, 06:19 AM
The Silent Flute (circle of iron).

The One

crouching tiger hidden dragon

snake and crane arts of shaolin

Star wars trilogy(best kung fu in these movies;) )

Many Respects, The Willow Sword

TjD
05-25-2002, 06:42 AM
freakin iron monkey :)

i loved that movie before they re-released it :) its almost all kung fu and no plot! it rocks! and the plot is even partially ripped off from robin hood

it gets no better
comon fighting on flaming poles!!

(actually the plot is pretty good but anyways)

peace
trav

Dark Knight
05-25-2002, 10:11 AM
I wasnt happy with the last Batman movie. I hope they return to good actors and a good story.

jun_erh
05-26-2002, 08:40 PM
I'm way into mainland stuff like Shaolin temple 3, Undaunted Wudang, Red Dragons of Shaolin, Holy Robe of Shaolin, etc

Hai_To
05-29-2002, 12:25 PM
Some of my favorites (since I couldn't resist responding) - in no particular order:

Shaolin Challenges Ninja
Five Deadly Venoms
Shaolin Rescuers
The Prodigal Son
Beggar So (AKA Hero Among Heroes)
Master Killer
Drunken Master 2
Last Hurrah for Chivalry
Once Upon a Time in China
Fist of the North Star (really cheesy but I like it)
The Young Master
Legend of Zu

The Willow Sword
05-30-2002, 06:53 AM
Anyone ever remember the classic: They Call ME Bruce?

quality movie making at its best:p

Many Respects,,, The Willow Sword

Volcano Admim
05-30-2002, 10:21 PM
Matrix is my favourite

yutyeesam
05-30-2002, 11:15 PM
Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon

Born Invincible - w/Carter Wong

Bruce Lee, the Man, the Myth (starring Bruce Li)

Kung-Fu Cult Master (Jet Li, Sammo Hung)

Dreadnaught

No Retreat No Surrender

Dynamo (Bruce Li)

The Game of Death out takes on Bruce Lee, the Legend

Din Gao
05-31-2002, 05:45 AM
They Call Me Bruce was so good they made a sequal...
They Still Call Me Bruce

Favs;
Kid With the Golden Arm
Crippled Avengers
Invincible Shaolin
Five Deadly Venoms
Prodigal Son

too many others to name

n0rmann
06-02-2002, 11:48 AM
Here's mine in no particular order:

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: Great story, with or without the martial arts.

Drunken Master/Drunken Master II: Both incredible fighting movies, and funny.

Young Master: Jackie Chan again, and not for the last time.

Project A: I love Jackie Chan Movies.

My Lucky Stars: I own a lot of Jackie Chan Movies.

Chinese Connection, Fists of Fury, Return of the Dragon, Enter the Dragon: Bruce Lee is the reason I got into martial arts when I was a kid.

Once Upon a Time in China: Jet Li at his best as an actor.

Street Fighter: Sonny Chiba was the best of the Japanese martial arts stars.

Five Deadly Venoms: Just watched it this weekend for the first time. Good old school movie. Not a lot of fighting, but it actually has a plot, unlike a lot of old time movies.

The Heroic Trio: Any guy has to like this movie. I like the artistry of wire fighting, even if it's unrealistic. It takes a heluva lot work.

The Duel: Another high flying movie. I like swords, too.

:)

greendragon
06-08-2002, 04:11 PM
Barry Gordie's "the Last Dragon" and no one has listed "the adventures of Remo Williams" also i think some of Bruce Lee's cleanest moves were in Green Hornet.

norther practitioner
06-17-2002, 03:13 PM
OK, here it goes (I own a lot of kung fu movies)

Invincible armor
10 Tigers from Kwantung (watch this one a few times to catch the plot)
Kung fu vs. Yoga
Shaolin vs. Lama
5 fighters from Shaolin
Legend
Fong Sai Yuk
New Legends of Shaolin
36 Chambers
Fury in Shaolin
Any early Jackie
Any early Jet and the ONE (I just like the xingi vs. bagua thing)

kohai
06-22-2002, 05:55 PM
Okay, the rest of the film is poor, but the Streetfighter 2 scene in Jackie Chan's City Hunter is quality.

TaoBoy
07-15-2002, 10:10 PM
Jet Li:

Fist Of Legend
My Father is Hero
Once Upon a Time In China
Tai Chi Master


Jackie Chan:

Drunken Master
Wheels on Meals
Young Master

Misc:

Shogun Assassin

Frank Exchange
07-26-2002, 04:35 AM
The Barefoot Kid
Police Story
The Blade (the Tsui Hark remake of one armed swordsman)
Burning Paradise (aka Red Lotus Temple)
Blade Of Fury
Fist Of Legend
Mr.Vampire


and the scenes from the Pink Panther series with Burt Kwouk!

dezhen2001
07-27-2002, 04:36 AM
Barefoot kid is cool man, so are the Mr. Vampire series. The 2nd one with Yuen Biao in it rocks :D

I also like Samo Hung's Encounters of the Spooky Kind series, they're cool :)

david

wushu chik
07-28-2002, 02:37 AM
Yeah, i am going to have to agree with yutyeesam, the last dragon is too classic to forget!! Can I get a "Sho Nuf"? OK OK, yeah, almost ANY Jet Li movie (i have to thank Silumkid for that) and tons of Jackie....too many to list!! Matrix was kewl..but i am getting REALLY tired of waiting for #2!!! Blade was rad...but i am partial to Stephen Dorff (he is SOO HOT).

~Wen~

Chief Fox
01-21-2004, 12:17 PM
I have several kung fu movies. I've tried to rent as many as possible and then buy the ones I like. Here's what I have in no particular order.

Iron Monkey
Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin
5 Deadly Venoms
Decendent of Wing Chun
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Rumble in the Bronx
Spiritual Kung Fu
Fists of Fury
Return of the Dragon
Enter the Dragon
HERO
Mortal Combat

What do you think? What are some of your favorites and why?

SevenStar
01-21-2004, 12:37 PM
I would remove mortal combat and add "master of flying guillotine". I'd take off:

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Rumble in the Bronx
Spiritual Kung Fu

also.

When I can think of ten, I'll post them.

David Jamieson
01-21-2004, 12:47 PM
off to the media forum with you! :D

cheers

Chief Fox
01-21-2004, 12:50 PM
Yeah, sorry about that. didn't see the media forum until after I made the post. You didn't put any movies in.

Phil Redmond
01-21-2004, 02:08 PM
Chief Fox, did you mean the original, (and best) Iron Monkey with Chan Kwan Tai or the newer Donnie Yuen version? Also add Mad Monkey Kung Fu.
I haven't seen it yet but I'm hearing that the Thai movie Ong Bak is better than any martial arts movie made to date.

Chief Fox
01-21-2004, 02:21 PM
No, I haven't seen the original Iron Monkey. I'll have to check it out. Any others?

Phil Redmond
01-21-2004, 02:32 PM
MUSA, it's Korean.
Chan Kwan Tai was the 1969? SE Asia full contact champion and he really studied Monkey style before he got into movies.

n0rmann
01-21-2004, 06:10 PM
No particular order

Iron Monkey (Donnie Yen)
Once Upon a Time in China
Twin Warriors
Drunken Master
Fists of Fury
Five Deadly Venoms
Dirty Ho
Heroic Trio
Young Master
Project A

SanSoo Student
01-21-2004, 08:44 PM
Prodigal Son should be up there to...

Sho
01-22-2004, 05:40 AM
(In alphabetical order)

Choy Lay Fut
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Drunken Master
Enter the Dragon
Fong Sai Yuk
Once Upon a Time in China
Tai Chi Master
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin

norther practitioner
01-22-2004, 01:09 PM
Invincible Armor
Born Invincible
Shaolin V. Wutang
Hero
Any of the Venoms movies together
36 Chambers (any of the series or cuts)
Snake in the Eagles Shadow
Fong Sai Yuk
Shaolin Temple
Shaolin V. Lama


I could go on I guess..

I own a bunch (around 175 now) started watching my favs. again

Other must sees..

Any of the Jet Li movies pre US stuff..
Any pre 86 Jackie Chan
Just about any Gordon Liu flick
Tony Leung's stuff is pretty good too.

MasterKiller
01-22-2004, 01:39 PM
Shaolin Temple
Enter the 36th Chamber (AKA Shaolin MasterKiller)
Return to the 36th Chamber (AKA Return of the MasterKiller)
Disciples of the 36th Chamber
Iron Monkey (Donnie Yen version)
Secrets of Chinese Chess Boxing
Crouching Tiger/Hidden Dragon
Hero (C'mon, now. That movie was awesome).
Snake in Eagles Shadow
The 5 Deadly Venoms

Master of Flying Guillotine gets honorable mention. :D

mortal
01-22-2004, 01:39 PM
What about Fist of legend!

KungFuFighting
01-24-2004, 09:03 PM
Shaolin temple
hero
Cradle to the grave (the last scene primarily with jet li and mark decascos)
Any old Jackie Chan movie.....except city hunter
definately Snake in eagles shadow
master with cracked fingers
the legend of red dragon

Ikken Hisatsu
01-24-2004, 11:26 PM
general consensus that jet lis movies have turned to ****e now he is hollywodised, but I do think that cradle 2 the grave and that one where he is in france is pretty ultimate. bloodsport at LEAST deserves an honourable mention. also fist of legend is one of the best.

norther practitioner
01-26-2004, 10:34 PM
the legend of red dragon

I believe that is also called new legends of Shaolin

It has Jet and his boy, meet up with some kids from shaolin with a map on there backs

The villian looks like Freddy Kruger.

redtornado
01-27-2004, 09:12 AM
Crouching tiger hidden dragon, Bruce lee's movies, and america Ninja


There are alot more so these are the ones
right now on my mind......

Shaolinlueb
01-27-2004, 04:53 PM
oh man where do i start....

not in any order

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Iron Monkey (donnie yen)
5 deadly venoms
return of the 5 deadly venoms
fists of legend (jet li)
once upon a time in china
wing chung
rumble in the bronx
drunken master
shaolin north and south

agh some others worth mentioning are
master of the flying gillotine
hereos two
shaolin vs wutang 2
invincible pole fighter
shaolin master killer
shaolin temple
magnificent butcher
kid with the golden arm
shaolin vs lama
www.automotivespecs.com/dvdlist.doc and basically somemmore on my list/

Phil Redmond
01-27-2004, 10:23 PM
Look for Ong Bak on ebay. It's in Thai with English subs. It's got some of the best fight scencs ever, PERIOD. I just watched it.
Sing Lung (Jackie Chan) and Jet Li have nothing on the star of this film.

KWUsCRD
01-30-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by mortal
What about Fist of legend!

I second that.

Vash
01-30-2004, 08:26 AM
In no particular order . . .

Hell's Windstaff
Buddha Palm
Anything from the Shaw Brothers
Shaolin vs Wutang 2
Once Upon a Time in China 2

CaptinPickAxe
02-02-2004, 01:56 PM
Drunken Master (the original)
Snake in the Eagles Shadow
Hero
Once upon a time in China (only the blind-folded sword fight scene)
Dragons Forever (the lucky stars are the shiz)
Project A
Spirtiual Kung Fu (Lo Weh Studios shafted jackie on that one, but the 5 animal fist is nice)
Half Loaf of Kung Fu
Master of the Flying Guilliotein and the One Armed Boxer
Kill Bill

norther practitioner
02-03-2004, 03:25 PM
Some of you need to go see some more kung fu flicks.

wall
02-04-2004, 03:58 AM
10 in no particular order:

Fist of Legend
36th Chamber of Shaolin
Drunken Master II
Once Upon a Time in China
Drive
Hero
Ong Bak
Shaolin Temple
The Master
Police Story II

Add to these all old Jackie stuff, despite the cheesy stories the action is always great, the Matrix trilogy for sheer techno-CMA cool, Crouching Tiger for mainstream romance-CMA, a lot of old Shaw Bros titles, etc etc etc.

W

Sifu Darkfist
01-14-2006, 09:43 PM
Kiss of the Dragon here, you guys?

WinterPalm
01-14-2006, 10:16 PM
Currently I have several up there.

Drunken Master and Fearless Hyena because Jackie is so great in those films and the training sequences are very inspiring.

Rumble in the Bronx

Fist of Legend, don't normally enjoy Jet Li but this one really stands out for me and because it really captures the whole Kung Fu cinema genre.

Way of the Dragon, Bruce Lee versus a prime Chuck Norris...doesn't get any better.

TenTigers
01-14-2006, 10:51 PM
anything with Ralph Machio, even "Crossroads". I heard he is going to continue the role of Kwai Chang-Caine, but in a more urban street enviornment. Kung-Fu in da hood.

shuaichiao
01-15-2006, 04:31 AM
Drunken Master 2

spiritual Kung Fu

Shaolin Temple

Once Upon A Time In China

Prodical Son

monkeyfoot
01-15-2006, 06:42 AM
shaolin temple - simply for the demo on the grass or for jet li screaming 'shifuuuuuuuu'.

iron monkey - awesome fights and probs the best intro to a film ever - eagle vs monkey.

shaolin invincible sticks - for the annoying spastic kid with the bald head.....ughhh i fast forward it every time.

craig:D

ngokfei
01-15-2006, 07:13 AM
Damo/bodhidharma - great to get a true sense of the Shaolin Legend. Not really a MA film but there is a cool scene when he confronts the bandits. (leads into the legend of the 18 bandits becoming warrior guardians)

Dao - a good balance of MA and History. Ti Lung is cool.

MUSA - history, and realistic MA's. Not the old Shaw Brothers I fight for 5 minutes but no one gets hit???

But not putting down Shaw Brother's.

Master Killer, 5 Deadly Venoms are classics.

my favorite of this group is the Martial Club With Lau Ka Fai/aka master killer as wong fei hung.

SPJ
01-15-2006, 10:42 AM
Iron monkey. I like the story line. The official is corrupt. Iron monkey robbed the rich and helped the poor and those in need. sort of like robinhood.

In day time, he is the TCM physician. My favorite part is that he charged the rich 500 liang for the herbs. and free for the poor.

Xia Yi or chivalry.

thumb way up.

the fighting between the meat eating/wine drinking Jiu Ruo corrupt monk and the good on top of the staff/pole/Zhuang is superb. "sinking to the bottom of the sea" countered "single pillar thru the sky". classic

I like the use of 9 section chain whip or Jiu Jie Bian. overall like it.

I heard about Wu Ji. looking forward to see and critique.

:D

hskwarrior
01-15-2006, 12:04 PM
it's jet li's Fong Sai Yuk for me, the fighting on tops of the crowds heads was cool.

the other part was when jet li found out the sister's switched and he lost on purpose because the one of the sister's was hella ugly.


hsk

Subitai
01-15-2006, 10:50 PM
Legendary weapons of China

Fist of the white Lotus

stuff like that...

"O"

Shaolin Dude
01-15-2006, 11:03 PM
I like drunken master 2

yutyeesam
01-15-2006, 11:35 PM
Born Invincible Is The Only Kung-fu Movie You Ever Need To See.

eling99
01-16-2006, 12:49 AM
Kiss of the Dragon here, you guys?


i have to agree with you on this one!! but now im excited about "Fearless"!!!

Samurai Jack
01-16-2006, 01:19 AM
Pushing Hands

The only real kungfu movie I've ever seen. No wirework, no back flips. Just good Tai Chi fighting applications and a real story about regular people in the U.S. dealing with the culture shock of having an elder Tai Chi master from China suddenly join the family.

eling99
01-16-2006, 01:26 AM
Pushing Hands

The only real kungfu movie I've ever seen. No wirework, no back flips. Just good Tai Chi fighting applications and a real story about regular people in the U.S. dealing with the culture shock of having an elder Tai Chi master from China suddenly join the family.


i still have to see this movie!!! i also liked iron silk or iron & silk

Chief Fox
01-16-2006, 08:10 AM
Jackie Chan - Snake and Crane arts of Shaolin

Sixthvenom
01-16-2006, 03:09 PM
Snake in the eagles shadow
Prodigal Son
Born Invincible
Iron Monkey

I love the Form scenes that Master Fok(Phillip Ko) does in Legend of a fighter, does anyone know the Style? Mihzong Quan?:)

GreenCloudCLF
01-16-2006, 03:14 PM
Shaolin Challenges Ninja (I love the japanese getting whooped)

My Father is A Hero (He uses a kid for a rope dart...genius)

Mulan (I have 2 small kids and someone from my lineage choreographed the staff/gim steps)

Dragons Forever (Biao at his best)

Versus (Japanese zombie Kung-Fu)

n.mitch
01-16-2006, 09:01 PM
Enter the dragon(hard to beat)
Kiss of the dragon no 2, best jet movie one of his few with no wire work his awsome to watch. wire work wrecks it, its ok for matrix ( with just actors) but jet dosn"t need it

greendragon
01-16-2006, 09:08 PM
KUNG FU HUSTLE is #1 !
also The Last Dragon and Big Trouble in Little China
I like Jet Li's fighting but Jackie Chan is just three stooges comedy.
ONG BOK was good

Samurai Jack
01-17-2006, 06:39 AM
Dude, every movie listed so far is "fake-fu". Why is it so much more popular than the real deal? I hate those stupid movies.

SPJ
01-17-2006, 08:47 AM
just saw Wu Ji yesterday.

It is actually about a fairy tale.

The general, the girl, the king, and the fast runner etc.

--

David Jamieson
01-17-2006, 08:56 AM
wow, you guys are a bunch of whipper snappers mentioning all those reletavley new movies. Ok, maybe a couple of older ones in there but come on! COME ON!!!!

no one mentioned what are possibly two of the best kungfu flicks ever made and still to this day hold it.

1) Masterkiller (the 36th chamber of shaolin)

2) 5 deadly venoms


if you haven't seen these, you haven't really seen a decent kungfu movie yet. lol

GreenCloudCLF
01-17-2006, 09:01 AM
Dude, every movie listed so far is "fake-fu". Why is it so much more popular than the real deal? I hate those stupid movies.

Movie-Fu by definition is fake....only the instructional videos have real-fu...and sometimes they don't.



no one mentioned what are possibly two of the best kungfu flicks ever made and still to this day hold it.

1) Masterkiller (the 36th chamber of shaolin)

2) 5 deadly venoms


I never put these on my list of faves cause i always thought it was a given these movies need to be counted...

Sifu Darkfist
01-17-2006, 09:37 PM
I forgot the flying guillotine and the kid with the golden arm? i cant remember the name.

Samurai Jack
01-18-2006, 12:46 AM
Movie-Fu by definition is fake....only the instructional videos have real-fu...and sometimes they don't.


Not true at all. "Pushing Hands" and "Iron and Silk" are two CMA movies that feature the real deal. You should see them. There are many, many JMA movie showing real swordsmanship.

By real, I mean "unenhanced by special effects, and resembling something you'd actually practice in your school." Just to clarify.

SimonM
01-18-2006, 02:15 AM
They may be fake-fu but they are still fun.

I mean it's entertainment, not a training VCD we are talking about here. And I think my fave is New Legend of Shaolin.

SPJ
01-18-2006, 08:39 AM
talking about newer movie.

I like the "warriors of the heaven and earth".

There are a few group tactics and strategy, such as defending the caravan and a small isolated castle against larger number of opponents, etc

I like the story about carrying the She Li Zi of Buddha to Tang China.

---

yutyeesam
01-18-2006, 09:32 AM
oh yeah:

Dreadnaught
Young Master

Oso
01-18-2006, 10:21 AM
Fearless Hyena if for nothing else besides the suspended by the feet swinging sit ups.

Kung Fu Hustle is up there, too.

Warriors of Heaven and Earth.

I was bored to death watching the 5 deadly venoms...I know, sacrilige...

Judge Pen
01-18-2006, 10:30 AM
I liked once upon a time in China 2 with Donnie Yen.

As far as fake fu, Chinese kung fu movies and mysticism go hand and hand, so over-the-top fighting and effects are expected.

Iron and Silk was a good movie/book.

As far as realistic fight scenes, then watch Bourne Identity and Supremacy. Loved the fights in those movies.

Hatsuyuki
01-18-2006, 03:34 PM
Shaolin Soccer and Kung-Fu Hustle, Stephen Chow makes some classics. as fa as serious movies go, I'd say Jet Li's "Fist of Legend" or Bruce Lee's "Way of the Dragon."

GreenCloudCLF
01-18-2006, 05:12 PM
Am I the only martial artist who doesnt like Bruce Lee movies?

I think the fight choreography is terrible compared to other movies made at the time...

puma
01-18-2006, 06:47 PM
The hot, The cool and The vicious
Mystery of chess boxing
Sixty second assassain
Prodigal son
Ghostly face
Five deadly venoms
Kid with the golden arm
Invincible shaolin
Executioner from shaolin
Death duel of the mantis

I could go on and on ,but i'm quite sure y'all get the point
All BRUCE LEE KUNG FU MOVIES ARE INSTANT CLASSICS....HANDS DOWN!!:)

chud
01-18-2006, 07:35 PM
Am I the only martial artist who doesnt like Bruce Lee movies?



Yes.

Sorry, Bruce is da man!

CoRWiN
01-18-2006, 08:09 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles owns you all!!!

They were actually doin Kung-Fu...

Fist of Legend with Jet Li rox.

Mortal Kombat when Johnny Cage fights Scorpion really gets me pumped too.

PangQuan
01-18-2006, 08:38 PM
im a super big fan of Fist of Legend and The Tai Chi Master.

but in consideration i think i might have to go with executioners from shaolin.

mainly because of Gordons heroic death scene.

Sixthvenom
01-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Am I the only martial artist who doesnt like Bruce Lee movies?

I think the fight choreography is terrible compared to other movies made at the time...

I agree!

Good films, not too good choreography.

puma
01-22-2006, 09:53 AM
I agree!

Good films, not too good choreography.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you guys
I believe that Bruces choreography was
the best at that particular time and the most
realistic...even kung fu movie greats such as
Liu chia liang and Sammo hung believed so too

Golden Arms
01-23-2006, 02:08 PM
I despise wirework most of the time. Here are a couple that I have watched over and over:

My Young Auntie

The Himalayan

Martial Club/Instructors of Death

Chief Fox
01-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Am I the only martial artist who doesnt like Bruce Lee movies?

I think the fight choreography is terrible compared to other movies made at the time...
I don't think that Bruce's movies were great but as he made more of them, they did get better. Enter the Dragon was good and I wish that he could have completed Game of Death. The little fight fottage that remains from that film is awesome.

SPJ
01-23-2006, 07:36 PM
Shaolin Soccer and Kung-Fu Hustle, Stephen Chow makes some classics. "

I like his movies, too. His movies are about different styles of CMA.

He added his interpretations of styles and made a comedy about them. His movies also carried some serious meanings from classical CMA novels.

Shaolin soccer is about shaolin styles used in playing soccer. Iron clothes, ghostly shadow Qin Na Shou, Light steps, iron head and great power diamond/Jing Gong Tui leg etc. I like the Tai Chi made bread or Man Tou. They are exeggeration extreme, but some fundamental ideas are "real".

Kung Fu hustle, there are more exeggerations, But you see the staff, the southern iron wire fist, tan tui, etc.

Toad headbutt and the Buddha palm are legends or made up from some CMA novels and comics.

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Meanings, Shaolin soccer, if you cheat, you will be caught. such as bribery, using of steroid--.

Kung Fu hustle, if he did not enter the pig village and saved them from the axe gang, no body will. The coulie tan tui, the tailor iron wire fist, and the donut/yiu tiao staff are sacrificed. They came out to save the kid from being burned. The landlord Tai Chi and land lady Lion's roar came out to save the previous three.

So Chow entered the hell, if not him, nobody will. Wo Bu Ru Di Yu, Shui Ru Di Yu. This is a common saying in many CMA novels.

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puma
01-23-2006, 10:32 PM
I don't think that Bruce's movies were great but as he made more of them, they did get better. Enter the Dragon was good and I wish that he could have completed Game of Death. The little fight fottage that remains from that film is awesome.

Would you happen to be talking about the warner bros dvd that was released 1-2 years ago that contains the original fight footage from the Game of Death that was lost?
If so...I agree with you totally...it is awesome:)
Had Bruce Lee lived to complete Game of Death...it probably would have been his best movie
I would love to have seen the Preying Mantis fight scene he had planned for the movie

Shaolindynasty
01-24-2006, 03:03 PM
1. Master Killer (36th chamber)

2. Shaolin and Wutang

3. Choy Lee fut (I have to say this)

4. Anthing else with gordan liu

Ronin22
01-24-2006, 03:20 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Hero, Crouching Tiger HD, and House of Flying Daggers. Are these not considered good? I loved them. One I saw recently that totally rocked is "Fist of Legend"

SimonM
01-24-2006, 07:25 PM
Oh I quite liked Hero and House of Flying Daggers. Zhang Ziyi is a beautiful young woman, the cinematography in both movies is wonderful, the plot is good (if sad) in both and the martial arts is certainly up to snuff.

but

There are other films I liked more, specifically:

New Legend of Shaolin
Fong Sai Yuk I
Fist of Legend

I have high hopes for Fearless.

Green Cloud
01-25-2006, 01:44 PM
Ong back, is the best thing out there, and Bone Crusher are phenominal.

SimonM
01-25-2006, 06:48 PM
I don't like Ong Bakh.

The coreography was sloppy. My brother and I went to the theatre to watch it and every time he kicked somebody with the tips of his toes we would be like: come on! That didn't even look like it connected hard.

The cinematography was terrible. The tonfa fight in the cave was so poorly lit it wasn't even funny and the film quality was sub-standard.

And don't even get me started on that song that played in the background during the taxi chace. Most-annoying-sound-evar.

And I am including the gong scene from the Chinese cut of Fong Sai Yuk...

chud
01-30-2006, 08:34 PM
Iron Monkey



I just rented Iron Monkey; what an awesome movie!!!

jethro
02-16-2006, 03:20 PM
fist of legend
legend of a fighter
return to the 36th chamber
shaolin vs lama
iron monkey
drunken master
dance of the drunken mantis
secret rivals
young master
chinese connection


I just can't stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11.Once upon a time in china
shaolin strikes back-joseph kuo-chen shan
five fingers of death
7 GRANDMASTERS-sorry, this is a top ten
ong-bak
hellz windstaff
snake in the eagles shadow-for the 6 kick in one jump in the final fight and the scene when hwang shows jackie he is the master, and hwang looks just plain scary in this movie
Hero
Mad Monkey KUNG FU FU HA HA HA HA OOOHH
crippled avengers
I'm sorry I have to stop
:eek: :eek:

Chief Fox
02-16-2006, 04:39 PM
Nice job brining back this old thread. :)

Here's few recent ones for me.

Master of the flying guilotine
Twin Dragons
Execusioner from Shaolin

jethro
02-16-2006, 04:47 PM
I absolutely had to bring this one back, a couple more are:
Ninja in the dragons den
The one with the shrimpy but awesome fong-sai yuk, and gordon lui as his instuctor, it might be disciples of 36th chamber
Also the one where gordon has to use the soft acupuncture style on lo lieh
AND
Hitman in the Hand of Buddha
And I forgot Enter the Dragon OK, but how do you not have a fight between Bruce and Bolo?
AND
Taoism Drunkard

jethro
02-16-2006, 04:50 PM
Some of you need to go see some more kung fu flicks.
Show your list then, I'm sittin here trying to think of em without IMBD, kungfucinema, OR ANYTHING, SO BRING IT ON.;)
Oh yeah I saw the nothern pratiionerrr had the invincible armour, also
Prodigal Son
Dreadnaught
Iron fisted monk
Sorry Sammo and Mr. Biao, and Sir Frankie Chan.

Phil Redmond
02-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Tom Yum Goong
Fighter in the Wind (the life of Oyama)
Legendary Weapons of China
Heros of the East aka Shaolin Challenges Ninja
Iron Monkey the original with Chan Kwan Tai
Mad Monkey Kung Fu . . . . . .

jethro
02-16-2006, 07:12 PM
The Sword
The Sword Stained with Royal Blood-old one
InframaN
Anything with CHEN SHAN(shaolin vs. Lama), or HWANG JANG LEE(Drunken Master)
Killer Clans

jethro
02-19-2006, 08:04 PM
return to the 36th chamber-one of the most unique movies ever, and
shaolin vs. lama-check this out if you want a closer fight at the end, not near as good of a fight as return of MK, but more evenly matched. I like this movie for the awesome forms that they use, NOT ANY Noticable UNDERCRANKING!, and the arm grabbing and the body-slamming. Best line from the movie-"We Lamas are traditional enemies of the Shaolin", movie fiction doens't get any better than that.

SimonM
02-19-2006, 08:17 PM
For close call end fights rent:

Duel to the Death (Highly over the top)
House of Flying Daggers (Brutal and bloody but more realistic than Duel to the Death)

jethro
02-19-2006, 08:24 PM
Oh I quite liked Hero and House of Flying Daggers. Zhang Ziyi is a beautiful young woman, the cinematography in both movies is wonderful, the plot is good (if sad) in both and the martial arts is certainly up to snuff.

but

There are other films I liked more, specifically:

New Legend of Shaolin
Fong Sai Yuk I
Fist of Legend

I have high hopes for Fearless.


Hero and Daggers were great movies, but they can't match the raw action of fist of legend. I really like Daggers because nobody was flying around, the fight scenes seemed very real to me. A lot of people rip this movie, I don't see why, great fight scenes, great drama scenes, other than the daggers doing things out of the ordinary, I thought it was a top 50 movie of all-time for me.

SimonM
02-20-2006, 07:33 AM
And Zhang Ziyi is a certified hottie. ;) :D

Ok I got that out of my system.

Daggers is a really good movie. The end fight alone is worth the price of admission and it got beyond the black and white good guy vs bad guy mentality that predominates so much of the martial arts genre.

SPJ
02-20-2006, 10:36 AM
Hero and the house of the flying dagger are 2 cma movie attempted by Zhang Yi Mou.

They are based on the legends of the assasins and the emperor Qin and the novel of the ambush from 10 fronts or Shi Mian Mai Fu.

There were many versions.

Both are thrillers or popular topics for many novelists and movie makers.

---

Zhang Yi Mou started to move back to different topics.

The "mind games" are more important than the fight scenes in both movies by Zhang.

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Kool.

:D

qiphlow
02-21-2006, 02:35 PM
born invincible
shaolin master killer
fist of legend (jet li)
enter the dragon/return of the dragon
hero
crouching tiger, hidden dragon
tai chi II
iron monkey
master of the flying guillotine
unleashed
kung fu hustle
shaolin soccer
tai chi master
buddhist fist

qiphlow
02-21-2006, 02:35 PM
born invincible
shaolin master killer
fist of legend (jet li)
enter the dragon/return of the dragon
hero
crouching tiger, hidden dragon
tai chi II
iron monkey
master of the flying guillotine
unleashed
kung fu hustle
shaolin soccer
tai chi master
buddhist fist

and, for pure cheese value:
five fingers of death

galenmode
02-21-2006, 09:29 PM
Drunken Master
Iron Monkey
Bruce Lee movies

jethro
02-22-2006, 04:10 PM
born inv--no way

Top 20::::or so


7 grandmasters
mystery of chess boxing
fist of legend
return to the 36th chamber
disciples of the 36th chamber-my pick for fong sai yuk
the young master
drunken master
dance of the drunken mantis-for hwangs mantis style alone
once upon a time in china
iron monkey
legend of a fighter
secret rivals
chinese connection-nice flying jump by jackie
shaoin vs lama-buddha does allow us to study kung fu to beat evil
shaolin strikes back
36 deadly styles
the sword
prodigal son
hero
deadly breaking sword-one with ti lung, fu sheng, and lily li- hottie!!!!!!!!!!!
five fingers of death
ong bak-mad dag oh god ittsss mad dog ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
storm riders
taoism drunkard
one armed boxer
the invincible armour
hellz windstaff- i swear that wong-fei hong is in this movie!!!
dreadnaught
shoguns samurai
the iceman cometh
a touch of zen
drive
shaolin prince-jason pai pao with the iron claws-oh what a sweet movie
ninja in the dragons den
deadful melody-bridgette lin-I will do anything for you
incredible kung fu mission
deadly china hero, claws of steel, or my fav name of this iron rooster vs centipede
the world of drunken master
MAD MONKEY KUNG FU- I would kill myself if I forgot about this one
the bride with white hair

some others


evil cult master
the flying guillotine
master of the flying guillotine
dragon inn-wonderful ending
house of flying daggers
one armed swordsman
newest zatoichi-blond haired guy, and fat guy running around screaming. I love zatiochi, this guy is always getting into trouble, i love how you really get the feeling in the gambling scenes that zatiochi and friend are putting all of their money against the house, and the house is running the risk of losing all of their money, its a real life and death situation, and you know whats gonna happen when z notices that the dice have been switched-sweet movie
golden swallow-chang pei pei
supercop
secret rivals 2- also I heard that secret rivals 3 has john liu AND alexander lo rei.
the skyhawk
hitman in the hand of buddha
game of death 2
once upon a time in china 2,4,5
drunken tai chi
the swordsman
crippled avengers


guilty pleasures:::::

snake crane secret
to kill with intrigue
heroic trio
escape from brothel
Teenage mutant ninja turtles-turtle power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hard Target-one with jean-claude riding a motorcyle in the mountains.


Sorry to the person who started this thread, but I did not include kiss of the dragon, I apologize. I do have that movie and like it, but it is not one of my favorites.

jethro
02-22-2006, 06:39 PM
i have another thread on this, but you have to see it. I had to list it after I noticed that I left it off my list from above.

Shadow ninja has one of the greatest final fight scenes ever, as far as fight scenes go, this is easily one of the top 20 greatest fight scenes in any movie.

If anyone knows the real name of this movie, please tell me, I got it in a 20 movies for 7.99 package, and the bad guy is iron robe yim from Once upon a time in china 1. Awesome movie.

Anthony
02-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Jethro...I'm not so sure that "the Bride with White Hair" is considered to be a Kung-fu movie, it's more of a fantasy movie like "Green Snake" or "Magic Crane." At least I think so.

jethro
02-22-2006, 09:25 PM
Jethro...I'm not so sure that "the Bride with White Hair" is considered to be a Kung-fu movie, it's more of a fantasy movie like "Green Snake" or "Magic Crane." At least I think so.
Nice thorough job of looking through that list.
I just put it on there for the fact that I am obsessed with Bridgette Lin, but I would still consider it a kung fu movie, I guess it would fall into the wuxia genre, but deadful melody(B. Lin, Y. Biou) is one of my favorite movies also, but my favorite part about that movie is the music, I love the story and the action, but sometimes music steals the show for me.
If I ever get the chance to ask Bridgette if she considers it a kung fu movie, I will go with her answer, and everybody else will have to accept it. I don't care if I'm the only person on this site who doesn't know kung fu, but I will Not accept anyone going against the word of Bridgette LIn. OOOOHHHH BRIDGETTE AAAHHH


I watched the bride with white hair movies again and the the 1st 1 is definitely one of my favorite kung fu flicks, the action doesn't have to show perfect swordplay or anything, but it is INTENSE, and brigitte lin is better than ever, and it is really cool to see her with the white hair the whole movie in #2, I almost liked it better than the 1st, but the 1st is away better movie.

Also you mentioned magic crane and was watching that before work today, that IS INSANE. If anybody loves inframn and godzilla and stuff like that, this is kinda like that, just not quite as good of action as godzilla(god I'm such a geek). i would definitely agree with you though that this is really not a kung fu movie. But if brigitte lin was in it I'm sure I would have considered it a top 20 movie for me.

Mr. Miyagi
02-24-2006, 07:01 PM
IRON MONKEY!
I've got to give it up to my Chinatown homeboy Donnie Yen.

Anthony
02-25-2006, 12:41 PM
Jethro....I was also going to comment on "one armed boxer" which is on your list but decided to leave it alone. In my opinion, this movie is sooo bad, it's good. "Yoga" portrayed as a martial art.....that was hillarious/strange.

As far as asian actresses go, Maggie Cheung has been a favorite of mine for like the last decade or so. I don't know if you've ever seen Green Snake but this is also another movie where the soundtrack practically steals the show. It's a fantasy movie from about 1994 directed by Tsui Hark. It's visually beautiful. The whole movie plays almost like a music video from beginning to end.

The pilot for the "Kung-Fu" television series with David Carradine is also one of my favorites. I recently bought the first season on DVD and enjoy watching the episoides with my wife. The martial arts action is not good at all by today's standards but the stories are good and I love the wisdom and the philosophy of Shaolin as portrayed in the series. Master Po is one of my favorite movie mentors/teachers, like Mr. Miyagi or Yoda.

Has anyone seen "A Killer's Romance" ? It's a really good action/modern martial arts movie. Good story too.

Some other favorites of mine:

Avenging Eagle- good story
A Hard Way to Die- filmed in Arizona, kind of a Kung-fu western

In short, I'm a huge old school fan. I'm not as crazy about the newer Wushu/everyone defies gravity type movies like Crouching Tiger.

chud
02-25-2006, 12:59 PM
My Sifu was showing me a movie yesterday when I went to his house to train. It was called Pride's Deadly Fury (although he said it's been released under different names) and the reason he was showing it to me is because it had authentic Bagua in it, as well as some other styles. I've been looking for this movie online to buy it, but so far no luck. If anyone knows where I can get it, please let me know. Thanks.

jethro
02-25-2006, 02:04 PM
Anthony, I think that you are thinking of Master of the flyign guillitine, which I would also consider a kung fu movie. I can't remember if the first OAB had a yoga guy in it, It had a lot of Japanese and 2 shaolin monks(yes the inflatable one) and also a lung fei with wierd hair and fangs. I know that I am turnign you off of this movie, but it is truly one of the best stories of the genre. It tells the story of how Wang Yu lost his arm and then invented this fighting style where you get knocked down, and you don't even have to move to get back up. I love master of the guillitine(OAB 2) because of the story and the fighting techniques. It isn't up to par in choreography with some other classics. But the fact that it is slower is an advantage in my opinion because you can see the form that the thai boxer uses or the style the master of guilline uses(taekwondo).

I like maggie cheung also, but mainly for hero, and yeah she is a wowser.

chud
02-26-2006, 02:28 PM
My Sifu was showing me a movie yesterday when I went to his house to train. It was called Pride's Deadly Fury (although he said it's been released under different names) and the reason he was showing it to me is because it had authentic Bagua in it, as well as some other styles. I've been looking for this movie online to buy it, but so far no luck. If anyone knows where I can get it, please let me know. Thanks.

Replying to myself in case it's of interest to anyone. I just found out on another forum that the alternate titles for Prides Deadly Fury are "The Honor of Dongfang Xu" or "Wulin zhi".

Btw, anyone know a good site online to buy obscure kungfu movies?

jethro
02-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Just to clear this up, I posted like 70 movies as my favorite ever, but I decided just to list my single fav ever. I just got Legend of a fighter after not seeing it in almost 10 years. I have now seen it 4 times in 6 days, I think I need to step it up and make it a daily ritual. The story is easily the best I have ever seen in execution in a old school kung fu movie. It literally hits on all cylinders.

I also got 36th chamber, return, and disciples, and I have to say that the picture quality is the best I have ever seen for one of these Shaw Bros movies, I need to quit spending $3-$7 on these movies and step it up. I will look for the RED SUN label on all DVD's that I buy now. It also had a SHAW BROTHERS logo on it and it said SHAOLIN COLLECTION on it. I highly suggest you look for these for the remastering job alone. By the way the LEgend of a fighter movie I got was only about 90% picture quality, dubbed, 87 min. long(can't remember if it was longer), the case also said it had deleted footage, interviews, trailers, original language, and 5.1 sound. It had none of these. I am actually not dissapointed because Legend is my favorite movie ever. Now on the other hand the Master Killer series had everything that it said it had, including original language track and acceptable subtitles.

Banjos_dad
02-28-2006, 12:52 PM
iron monkey.
drunken master.

shaolin vs. lama


and anything with Pai Mei/ or copycat mutant white-eyebrow-elder character.


'above the law' not really a kung fu movie in the classic mold, but isn't it fun to watch Seagall go full tilt on a room full of guys? lmao

jethro
03-20-2006, 11:00 PM
Jethro....I was also going to comment on "one armed boxer" which is on your list but decided to leave it alone. In my opinion, this movie is sooo bad, it's good. "Yoga" portrayed as a martial art.....that was hillarious/strange.

As far as asian actresses go, Maggie Cheung has been a favorite of mine for like the last decade or so. I don't know if you've ever seen Green Snake but this is also another movie where the soundtrack practically steals the show. It's a fantasy movie from about 1994 directed by Tsui Hark. It's visually beautiful. The whole movie plays almost like a music video from beginning to end.

The pilot for the "Kung-Fu" television series with David Carradine is also one of my favorites. I recently bought the first season on DVD and enjoy watching the episoides with my wife. The martial arts action is not good at all by today's standards but the stories are good and I love the wisdom and the philosophy of Shaolin as portrayed in the series. Master Po is one of my favorite movie mentors/teachers, like Mr. Miyagi or Yoda.

Has anyone seen "A Killer's Romance" ? It's a really good action/modern martial arts movie. Good story too.

Some other favorites of mine:

Avenging Eagle- good story
A Hard Way to Die- filmed in Arizona, kind of a Kung-fu western

In short, I'm a huge old school fan. I'm not as crazy about the newer Wushu/everyone defies gravity type movies like Crouching Tiger.


Anthony I gotta agree with you, I popped my video of one-armed boxer in after not seeing it in a long while and you are absolutely right. This is certainly cheese at it's finest. The yoga guy running around everywhere is hilarious. ONE-ARMED BOXER IS RECOMMENDED FOR ANY FANS OF JIMMY WANG YU, better than rage of the master at least. OH bleep, it's midnight, I'm off, you're lucky, I was gonna repost every thread on here.

jethro
03-30-2006, 05:44 PM
Replying to myself in case it's of interest to anyone. I just found out on another forum that the alternate titles for Prides Deadly Fury are "The Honor of Dongfang Xu" or "Wulin zhi".

Btw, anyone know a good site online to buy obscure kungfu movies?


Do you know who is in Pride's deadly fury and when it was made?

Ebay has some good deals, it is just kind of hit and miss, I just recieved my copy of killer clans for 3.99, and it has 5.1 sound, AND IS A CELESTIAL RELEASE with a bey logan commentary and many special features. Man I thought red sun was a good restoration company but killer clans was TRUE crystal clear picture. The dvd didn't say celestial on the internet, but it didn't even say it on the dvd, so it is VERY hit and miss, but with ebay you will ALWAYS be able to find what you are looking for cheap after searching through everyone's stores. Shaolin vs. lama is another good example, 99 cents and 2.99 for shipping, buddha bless you.

Xiao3 Meng4
03-30-2006, 06:13 PM
What?!? No one's posted Remo Williams: The Adventure begins, yet??

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/

CSP

jethro
03-30-2006, 06:19 PM
What?!? No one's posted Remo Williams: The Adventure begins, yet??

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/

CSP


That remindS me, I FORGOT PINK PANTHER!

jethro
04-18-2006, 06:48 PM
A Hard Way to Die- filmed in Arizona, kind of a Kung-fu western

In short, I'm a huge old school fan. I'm not as crazy about the newer Wushu/everyone defies gravity type movies like Crouching Tiger.
I know i said i won't post on here anymore till im going to school, but im a liar and lazy, but still looking I guess you could say..., seriously



But I saw avenging eagle and anthony I gotta say that it was pretty freaking good. I got a VERY good picture of this movie and the movie itself was very good. I certainly was not expecting the ending, but that just made it better. I like movies where you can't just watch it and instantly put in another one. You really have to pause and think about what happened. The kung fu was pretty good, and the weapon work was better I guess. The shaws didn't bring out a ton of new weaponds or nothing but that movie just had a certain style that I liked. Stupid story, but well told.

I loved Ku feng's character. The way that he went to go sit in that chair at the end. I like the way that he sat there and a henchman brought a box but didn't open it. And when ti and alexander finally made it to him, then he puts on the iron claws. It is little touchews like that that I love. So thank you for recommending that and I have a question for you. That didn't seem to be a part of the whole ku lung novel series done mainly by chor yuen, but was still the same style as those(EVERYBODY OUT FOR THEMSELVES). Is this right? Cause some of the characters actually good people in eagle. This one though is done by toing gai, and I think that the only other thing that he did was shaolin prince, which I highly recommend if you want a lighter story.

And does anybody know if the 13 cold blooded eagles is any good, why am i asking I live iron robe yim

Strife
04-18-2006, 08:45 PM
sha po lang with donnie yen: donnie at his best, great story, great actors, and the guy in white is the next jet li.

Fearless: some critics say jet li looks slower in this film, but those who criticize are ones who already have there minds void. great fight scenes, yeun mo ping is a genius. the "lost tracks" style really interested me.

36th Chamber, Deadly Venoms, Challenge of the Masters, Shaolin and Wutang, Drunken Tai Chi, Shaolin Chasity Kung Fu, Hells Windstaff are all classics.

couldnt leave out the matrix trilogy. the first one is what got me interested in kung fu all together.

BruceSteveRoy
04-19-2006, 08:06 AM
This question gets asked a lot and it is probably one of the hardest for me to answer. but i think i will have to say either

36th chamber
or
snake in he monkey's shadow

i like the old school movies.

jethro
04-19-2006, 04:04 PM
sha po lang with donnie yen: donnie at his best, great story, great actors, and the guy in white is the next jet li.

Fearless: some critics say jet li looks slower in this film, but those who criticize are ones who already have there minds void. great fight scenes, yeun mo ping is a genius. the "lost tracks" style really interested me.

36th Chamber, Deadly Venoms, Challenge of the Masters, Shaolin and Wutang, Drunken Tai Chi, Shaolin Chasity Kung Fu, Hells Windstaff are all classics.

couldnt leave out the matrix trilogy. the first one is what got me interested in kung fu all together.


i am really chomping at the bit here, could you please tell me what this movie is about, I seen a version with chang shan(shen chan) on the dvd cover, and just wondering what you thought of the fights, the hero, the villians:eek: ...

The Willow Sword
04-20-2006, 07:00 AM
Jacky Chan- Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin is by far my favorite Kung fu movie.

I also like "Spiritual Kung Fu" and "Laughing Hyena" (also two JC Movies).

As for the more philosophical Kung fu movies "Circle of Iron" aka "The Silent Flute" is another Fav of mine.

Definately liked Kung Fu Hustle,,Jet Li's Fist of Legend is also another fav.

As always,,,TWS

Strife
04-20-2006, 12:26 PM
i am really chomping at the bit here, could you please tell me what this movie is about, I seen a version with chang shan(shen chan) on the dvd cover, and just wondering what you thought of the fights, the hero, the villians:eek: ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huo_Yuanjia

the fights are beautiful, i really do not know how yeun mo ping does it. alittle wire fu, but to me, the punching and kicking is all traditional. there is a great scene where jet li fights against his childhood bully like 20 feet in the air on a platform. at the beginning of the movie the kids didnt know kung fu, but now that they are older they are both quite the experts.

i could tell you more about the fight scenes but i really dont want to spoil them for ya.

the villians are really cool to. fights a boxer, an american (i think) spearmen, and a spanish swordsmen (and i read that he's a champion in real life). then a japanese samurai. The main villian though isnt through competition, but rather a rival master from a different school. very cool scene where jet li and this other master are walking down an alley, and all there students are following them as they chat.

there is also some issues involving the real descendents of Huo Yuanjia and jet li as he was the producer of the film. read the link i gave ya for more details.

peace!

jethro
04-20-2006, 03:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huo_Yuanjia

the fights are beautiful, i really do not know how yeun mo ping does it. alittle wire fu, but to me, the punching and kicking is all traditional. there is a great scene where jet li fights against his childhood bully like 20 feet in the air on a platform. at the beginning of the movie the kids didnt know kung fu, but now that they are older they are both quite the experts.

i could tell you more about the fight scenes but i really dont want to spoil them for ya.

the villians are really cool to. fights a boxer, an american (i think) spearmen, and a spanish swordsmen (and i read that he's a champion in real life). then a japanese samurai. The main villian though isnt through competition, but rather a rival master from a different school. very cool scene where jet li and this other master are walking down an alley, and all there students are following them as they chat.

there is also some issues involving the real descendents of Huo Yuanjia and jet li as he was the producer of the film. read the link i gave ya for more details.

peace!




obviously shaolin temple neds no explaining. Maybe it was called chastity where you are from, but "shaolin chastity kung fu" is truly one of the owrst movies I have ever seen. Alexander Lo literally looks like they painted him brown before this, but i think that might really be his tan, so do not watch the chastity one with chang shan on the cover cause he is not in it. It has one good fight, and it has the worst villians ever, why the hell am I talking about this movie.


Also I have never seen jet li's movie all the way through, I have seen the final fight which kind of spoiled it, but it is cool to see how raw he was. Certainly not the actor he is today.

SPJ
04-20-2006, 08:20 PM
I like the movie "fearless" or Huo Yuan Jia.

Even though the movie script is not the real story.

I like the part that Huo went "crasy" after the loss of his wife and daughter just after he became the number 1 in Tian Jing.

He would and should spare the life of his opponent--

He was nearly drowned in the river only to be rescued by farmers in a village.

The blind girl told the story about planting the rice at some distance meaning mutual respect and to get along with everyone and everyone prospers.

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oops. spoiler.

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:D

jethro
04-20-2006, 08:26 PM
good thing I looked at the bottom of your post first:mad: :( :o ;) :mad: :mad: :p

balinor
04-20-2006, 10:44 PM
1. Way of the Dragon

2. Enter the Dragon

3. The Five Deadly Venoms

4. House of Flying Daggers

There are to many to name.

Blacktiger
04-20-2006, 10:53 PM
Hey your forgetting the coolest guy ever........Black Belt Jones

He was in Enter The Dragon as Williams and had a few spin off films like "Hot Potato"

thats the only one I can remember but there were others.

Ray Pina
04-21-2006, 08:37 AM
Kid with the Golden Arm
5 Deadly Venoms
Mystery of Chess Boxing
Flying Guillotien
Black Mask (under rated: the cop moves so well)
Drunken Master (original)
Seven Grandmasters
Kill Bill 1 and 2

jethro
07-25-2006, 11:33 AM
7 grandmasters
mystery of chess boxing
fist of legend
return to the 36th chamber
disciples of the 36th chamber-my pick for fong sai yuk
the young master
drunken master
dance of the drunken mantis-for hwangs mantis style alone
once upon a time in china
iron monkey
legend of a fighter
secret rivals
chinese connection-nice flying jump by jackie
shaoin vs lama-buddha does allow us to study kung fu to beat evil
shaolin strikes back
36 deadly styles
the sword
prodigal son
hero
deadly breaking sword-one with ti lung, fu sheng, and lily li- hottie!!!!!!!!!!!
five fingers of death
ong bak-mad dag oh god ittsss mad dog ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
storm riders
taoism drunkard
one armed boxer
the invincible armour
return of the one armed swordsman
kid with the golden arm
rebellious reign
hellz windstaff- i swear that wong-fei hong is in this movie!!!
dreadnaught
shoguns samurai
the iceman cometh
a touch of zen
drive
shaolin intruders
zatoichi and the chest of gold
shaolin prince-jason pai pao with the iron claws-oh what a sweet movie
ninja in the dragons den
deadful melody-bridgette lin-I will do anything for you
incredible kung fu mission
deadly china hero, claws of steel, or my fav name of this iron rooster vs centipede
the world of drunken master
MAD MONKEY KUNG FU- I would kill myself if I forgot about this one
the bride with white hair

some others


evil cult master
the flying guillotine 1 and 2
master of the flying guillotine
dragon inn-wonderful ending
house of flying daggers
one armed swordsman



some of these are better than others, let me know if you have a question.

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 11:39 AM
7 grandmasters
mystery of chess boxing
fist of legend
return to the 36th chamber
disciples of the 36th chamber-my pick for fong sai yuk
the young master
drunken master
dance of the drunken mantis-for hwangs mantis style alone
once upon a time in china
iron monkey
legend of a fighter
secret rivals
chinese connection-nice flying jump by jackie
shaoin vs lama-buddha does allow us to study kung fu to beat evil
shaolin strikes back
36 deadly styles
the sword
prodigal son
hero
deadly breaking sword-one with ti lung, fu sheng, and lily li- hottie!!!!!!!!!!!
five fingers of death
ong bak-mad dag oh god ittsss mad dog ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
storm riders
taoism drunkard
one armed boxer
the invincible armour
return of the one armed swordsman
kid with the golden arm
rebellious reign
hellz windstaff- i swear that wong-fei hong is in this movie!!!
dreadnaught
shoguns samurai
the iceman cometh
a touch of zen
drive
shaolin intruders
zatoichi and the chest of gold
shaolin prince-jason pai pao with the iron claws-oh what a sweet movie
ninja in the dragons den
deadful melody-bridgette lin-I will do anything for you
incredible kung fu mission
deadly china hero, claws of steel, or my fav name of this iron rooster vs centipede
the world of drunken master
MAD MONKEY KUNG FU- I would kill myself if I forgot about this one
the bride with white hair Absolutely mental!

some others


evil cult master
the flying guillotine 1 and 2
master of the flying guillotine
dragon inn-wonderful ending -Accidentally fell asleep during this!
house of flying daggers
one armed swordsman





some of these are better than others, let me know if you have a question.

Cool, thanks for that! Seen a few (in bold!) .Not forgetting Zu Warriors from Magic Mountain and Shaolin Temple (seen #1 so far) .Want to see Chinese Ghost Story again too!

David Jamieson
07-25-2006, 11:51 AM
I know there's a lot of Carradine haters here, but nevertheless, the movie "circle of iron" is a good kungfu flick. Not so much for the fu, but the concept. It is a Bruce Idea film btw. sometimes it is titles "silent flute".

for modern flicks:

Hero
House of flying daggers
Iron Monkey (the new one)
Fist of Legend (the remake of Bruces flick with jet li)
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Young Master
Drunken Master

another old one that's good with Gordon Liu is "Raiders of Buddhist Kungfu" which is a continuation of the San Te story.

jethro
07-25-2006, 12:00 PM
alright, these are the must sees

7 GRANDMASTERS!!!!!

DANCE OF THE DRUNKEN MANTIS-a real sequel to drunken master

RETURN OF MASTER KILLER-my favorite fight scene ever and I freaking love that entore movie

THE YOUNG MASTER-jackie's best movie, and gene agrees with me!

SECRET RIVALS-the movie I believe started the classic kung fu genre we knew and loved.

CHINESE CONNECTION-seiously, you have seen this one right?:rolleyes:

SHAOLIN VS. LAMA-buddha finger

SHAOLIN TEMPLE STRIKES BACK-my favoprite kung fu acrtor ever(shen chan vs. ghost face killer). Possibly my real favorite movie ever(though please don't mention it to anyone).

SHAOLIN INTRUDERS-best kung fu movie I have seen in many many years!!!!!!

STORM RIDERS-you like Zu, look the f out for this!

THE SWORD-one of the best final fights ever, truly:)

KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARM-best venom's flick, all 7 of them, not the 8th though(guy from fist of legend, twin warriors).

CLAWS OF STEEL-odd entry into the fewi hung series, but highly enjoyable!

TAOISM DRUNKARD-woo ping's master piece, for the other kind of movies he did that is.

SHAOLIN PRINCE-Jing Wong written movie, but directed by, well you will have to find out. Thius guy TRULY changed the genre into what we know it as today.

REBELLIOUIS REIGN- really good movie, unbelievable final fight:eek:

WORLD OF DRUKEN MASTER-midless fun, but some of the best.

And you have seen my favorite movie, legend of a fighter, what did ya think?

bride with white hair-hinestly one of my favorite movies ever. Odd yes, for me, oh yes.

And sadly, yes there are kung fu movie I haven't seen.:( Like Shaolin Temple.

jethro
07-25-2006, 12:03 PM
another old one that's good with Gordon Liu is "Raiders of Buddhist Kungfu" which is a continuation of the San Te story.[/QUOTE]

FYI

No it is not. Return of master killer he meets san te. In disciples with Fong Sai Yuk, he plays san te, Shaolin and Wudang is the only one I would even consider to be a continuation. Raider's of Buddhist Kung Fu on the other hand, I just reviewed that on Amazon actually. Pretty good.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KQO12/ref=cm_pdp_review_teaser_product/103-7684473-8327046?n=130

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 12:07 PM
Yes ,seen Fist of Legend, I love Jet Li. Shaolin Temple is brilliant, he's young and cheeky!
Bride with White Hair, may have to try it again!
What about people's favourite Samurai film ?

jethro
07-25-2006, 12:15 PM
[QUOTE=Su Lin]Yes ,seen Fist of Legend, I love Jet Li.]



Actually my favorite movie evr would be this one

http://kungfucinema.com/reviews/legendofafighter.htm

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 12:22 PM
Yep, it's a good'un! So many films, so little time! Won't get chance to do any training!!!

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 12:24 PM
Is Wo Ping's Father Beggar Su in Drunken Master ? Must buy that film to watch it many many times! Love it!

Chief Fox
07-25-2006, 12:24 PM
Who here thinks Jethro watches too many d@mn movies? ;)

Holly cr@p dude! :D

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 12:26 PM
Who here thinks Jethro watches too many d@mn movies? ;)

Holly cr@p dude! :D

Does Jethro actually "do" kung fu???:p

jethro
07-25-2006, 12:27 PM
Training, ah, thank you for reminding me. I train, but know no styles. Don't tell anyone though, I wil learn soon and come on here like I have known it all my life:D

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 12:28 PM
Surely you must have soaked up vast knowledge of all styles with your immense kung fu movie knowledge!!! Get started young man!:p

jethro
07-25-2006, 12:30 PM
oh yes, one day I will live as a hermit and I will be sure to find a mantis, and I will train with it. Then, I will come back here in 20 years or so and let you all knwo how good I am.

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 12:32 PM
Try drinking loads of rice wine and see what happens!:p I am adept in the art of the samurai after watching way too many samurai films!!!

jethro
07-25-2006, 12:39 PM
I have now seen Zatoichi 1 2 3 and 7. Truly some of the greatest movies ever. Does he ever get the girl?

Taslk to ya later su lin, I have to go to clock into work now(only 10 minutes late) and I have to do actual work these days:eek:

Su Lin
07-25-2006, 02:22 PM
Have just ordered many dvds and its sleep time now (time difference!)

Laukarbo
07-26-2006, 04:31 AM
Martial club
challenge of the masters
8 diagram pole fighter
magnificent butcher
36th chamber of shaolin
prodigal son
iron fisted monk
lady is the boss
my young auntie
mad monkey kung fu

jethro
07-26-2006, 11:35 AM
my young auntie



NICE!!!!!!!!

I still have to see martial club, but young auntie is one of my favs!

Laukarbo
07-26-2006, 11:42 AM
NICE!!!!!!!!

I still have to see martial club, but young auntie is one of my favs!


yes,I love how Lau Kar Leung still dont wanna adjust with the modern times..this movie is so much fun and shows so much tradition..

Oh and u havent seen Martial Club yet...??? Oh man you will love it!!
I wish I hadnt seen it yet...hehe:D

jethro
07-26-2006, 12:27 PM
yes,I love how Lau Kar Leung still dont wanna adjust with the modern times..this movie is so much fun and shows so much tradition..




He is easily the undisputed champion of directing kung fu movies. Just when you think that all of his movies are the same, you see one like operation scoprpio to show he can do even the new school stuff just as good as ANYONE. His style of comedy just seems too dry to people who are not used to this. But Master Lau can make me laugh, cry, I mean I just get everything from his movies.

A few comedies that I overly enjoyed of his was the return of master killer and dirty ho.

Laukarbo
07-27-2006, 06:21 AM
A few comedies that I overly enjoyed of his was the return of master killer and dirty ho.
couldnt agree more..these are classics...

I also love the more darker film the 8 diagram pole fighter...when LKF shaves his head..ooouch..

tonight I will watch mad monkey kung fu again...havent watched it in ages..:D

jethro
07-27-2006, 11:34 AM
couldnt agree more..these are classics...

I also love the more darker film the 8 diagram pole fighter...when LKF shaves his head..ooouch..

tonight I will watch mad monkey kung fu again...havent watched it in ages..:D


damit, how have I not seen 8 diagram pole fighter? Looks like we are naming all shaw's flicks. HAve you seen the far inferior monkey fist floating snake? It is a godawful movie and is good to compare with Mad Monkey too. It really shows how brilliant of a movie it was. Be sure to turn the music up an extra notch for me when the wong fei-hong theme comes on tonight:D

Laukarbo
07-27-2006, 12:07 PM
damit, how have I not seen 8 diagram pole fighter? Looks like we are naming all shaw's flicks. HAve you seen the far inferior monkey fist floating snake? It is a godawful movie and is good to compare with Mad Monkey too. It really shows how brilliant of a movie it was. Be sure to turn the music up an extra notch for me when the wong fei-hong theme comes on tonight:D

yes I have this too...its really :( the only flick that can stand chances with mad monkey is also a shaw flick..its monkey kung fu..

hehe,there are so many nice shaw flicks in particular the ones from LKL..
Recently i watched shaolin martial arts in which Fu Sheng learns the tiger crane style and chen kuan tai Wing Chun..also a must see hehe..and no , shaw dont pay me no money...:D

jethro
07-27-2006, 12:10 PM
you mother f*****

I have not seen Shaolin Martial arts either:eek:

But


a good unknown shaw's flick is Killer Constable. CHeck that out and tell me what you think:D

Laukarbo
07-27-2006, 12:17 PM
you mother f*****

I have not seen Shaolin Martial arts either:eek:

But


a good unknown shaw's flick is Killer Constable. CHeck that out and tell me what you think:D

:eek: hehe I will try to get my hands on Killer constable..I indeed dont know this...

check the attached pic..Im on the left..hehe:D

jethro
07-27-2006, 12:26 PM
:eek: hehe I will try to get my hands on Killer constable..I indeed dont know this...

check the attached pic..Im on the left..hehe:D


who the **** are you???:eek: :eek:


You got your picture taken with my idol!!!!!!!

Also a movie that I really want to see is disciples of death. Just thought I would put that up before you told me how great it was:rolleyes: :cool: ;) ;) :D :D

Laukarbo
07-28-2006, 02:16 AM
who the **** are you???:eek: :eek:




just a nobody..but I was lucky enough to learn from Mark houghton (the guy on the left) Hung Gar and he again is a student of Lau kar Leung...
I hope you recognised the guy nxt to LKL as well? Thats Fung Hark On...hes the bad guy in million of kung fu flicks such as,Magnificent butcher,police story,warriors 2,Iron fisted monk etc. in real life hes cool as ****...that day when we took the pic we all had dinner together in a restaurant and while sitting at the table LKL would jump up sometimes and show some moves..he really,really loves Kung fu...amazing day it was..btw at that time he came just back from shooting 7 swords...

jethro
07-29-2006, 12:10 PM
Obviously the guy loves kung fu. In a documentary "art of action" that samule l. jackson hosted, he is VERY lively. and then I just saw on kfcinema.com that he is directing a new shaolin movie!

Laukarbo
08-08-2006, 06:58 AM
Jethro my friend , you will love this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lC8F_El8YM

:D

jethro
08-09-2006, 12:12 PM
a lot of other good lau stuff there, thanks. :)

Su Lin
08-12-2006, 01:47 PM
Hey Jethro,
Working through the list, kind of! Watched Snake and Crane the other night, hmm, it was ok. JUst about to watch Drunken Master II, so looking forward to that one!

jethro
08-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Hey Jethro,
Working through the list, kind of! Watched Snake and Crane the other night, hmm, it was ok. JUst about to watch Drunken Master II, so looking forward to that one!


:mad:

you are not watching the "greats", DM 2 has great stuff in it, but check out the real sequel to drunken master.

http://shaolinchamber.com/video_files/danceofthedrunkmantis_vidclip_04.wmv

A couple of others that I could maybe consider to be as good as Legend of a Fighter are Once Upon a Time in China and Shaolin Temple Strikes Back. Rebellious Reign is another one I recently saw, awesome. Also Dirty Ho, Operation Scorpio, Return of Master Killer, ah geez, here I go again:p

Su Lin
08-13-2006, 06:15 AM
I know, sorry! I wandered off list and now look what has happened! Been trying to get hold of a copy of Masterkiller/36 chambers of Shaolin but can't ,and beginning to get annoyed by it now! I just wanted to watch Beggar Su / Sam Seed again cause I think he's cool!
You have my word that I will stick to the list and do my homework properly!
Have got hold of a copy of 36th Chamber- Final Confrontation so watching that later (after training of course!) . Also working my way through the Shaolin Temple trilogy at some point. The weather will be getting more rubbish soon, so will be spending far more time indoors watching films, so should start stocking up now!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

jethro
08-13-2006, 08:46 PM
I know, sorry! I wandered off list and now look what has happened! Been trying to get hold of a copy of Masterkiller/36 chambers of Shaolin but can't ,and beginning to get annoyed by it now! I just wanted to watch Beggar Su / Sam Seed again cause I think he's cool!
You have my word that I will stick to the list and do my homework properly!
Have got hold of a copy of 36th Chamber- Final Confrontation so watching that later (after training of course!) . Also working my way through the Shaolin Temple trilogy at some point. The weather will be getting more rubbish soon, so will be spending far more time indoors watching films, so should start stocking up now!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


lol, I did not realize I was being so harsh until I read my post. Sorry for being somewhat rude. Look for the red sun distributed version of master killer. Region free and dual languages. AND IT IS LETTERBOXED WITH CRYSTAL CLEAR PICTURE! I also got return of master killer and disciples of master killer, both same dvd quality.

What did you think of the clip with the battle of the drunken masters?

Su Lin
08-22-2006, 12:24 PM
Jethro, you will be proud of me.I have managed to track down a copy of Masterkiller 1 and 2, so am very excited. Should get it tomorrow night at training so cant wait to watch them!
I must admit, I still enjoyed the fighting in Drunken Master 2, I just think Sam Seed is v.cool !

Su Lin
08-22-2006, 12:26 PM
BTW got this to borrow off someone, have you seen them?

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.529647/qx/details.htm

jethro
08-25-2006, 11:19 AM
BTW got this to borrow off someone, have you seen them?

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.529647/qx/details.htm

I wil rank them for you

1.-Ten Magnificent killers-not great, but the bonus features are more than worth it. You know what, their is no piont in ratign these. They are all ranked the same EXCEPT for Fury in the Shaolin Temple. That is really really bad. But still even the extras on that disc are good.

Su Lin
08-25-2006, 12:05 PM
I've got Master Killer to watch first- just watched the first 5 mins, and really looking forward to watching the rest later on! Gold star for me!:p

Su Lin
08-26-2006, 12:55 PM
Just watched Incredible Kung Fu mission http://www.kungfucinema.com/reviews/incrediblekungfumission.htm
Was worth it just for the dubbing! There always seems to be a cheeky ****ney in there somewhere!
Promise Im going to watch 36 Chambers etc, starting tonight (once I drag myself away from here!) but may fall asleep as had training AND been for a run too ! And may have some gin.:p

jethro
08-26-2006, 01:33 PM
Just watched Incredible Kung Fu mission http://www.kungfucinema.com/reviews/incrediblekungfumission.htm
Was worth it just for the dubbing! There always seems to be a cheeky ****ney in there somewhere!
Promise Im going to watch 36 Chambers etc, starting tonight (once I drag myself away from here!) but may fall asleep as had training AND been for a run too ! And may have some gin.:p

Ya do what you gotta do.

Su Lin
08-26-2006, 01:54 PM
Things I gotta do in order of priority
Train kung fu
watch kung fu/ Samurai movies
talk about kung fu
eat
sleep
work
clean the house
:rolleyes:

Su Lin
08-28-2006, 10:57 AM
Master Killer - wow.I'm in love.....:o

lunghushan
08-28-2006, 12:12 PM
Guess this is a sore point for me because I don't really have a favorite martial arts movie because they all seem so unrealistic in the fighting techniques used.

So that being said, I'd have to say my favorite martial arts movie (it's a war movie so not really martial arts at all) is Saving Private Ryan because it had the most realistic fighting scenes I think have ever been filmed.

Su Lin
08-28-2006, 12:17 PM
I think it's just a case of not thinking about the reality and enjoying the action. There's a certain amount of that in all films- ie historical re-enactments they will never be entirely accurate. Wonder if historians feel the same ?

lunghushan
08-28-2006, 12:25 PM
I think it's just a case of not thinking about the reality and enjoying the action. There's a certain amount of that in all films- ie historical re-enactments they will never be entirely accurate. Wonder if historians feel the same ?

Yeah, they take a lot of license with history, stories, a lot of things in movies.

I really try to ignore the action in martial arts movies because it just ruins it ... the one I disliked the most was 'The One', though, because Jet Li's bagua and xingyi are both just abysmal.

jethro
08-28-2006, 12:33 PM
Yeah, they take a lot of license with history, stories, a lot of things in movies.

I really try to ignore the action in martial arts movies because it just ruins it ... the one I disliked the most was 'The One', though, because Jet Li's bagua and xingyi are both just abysmal.

I really think that if you saw a movie like Fist of Legend or Shaolin vs. Lama you would get more of a sense of fighting on screen. If you watch a movie like Ninja in the Dragon's Den, you will see they try to keep the fight going for as logn as possible. When they can do that and still make it look somewhat realistic, it makes it all the more fun.

You should check out like zatoichi movies I guess. The fights in those movies are really short.

lunghushan
08-28-2006, 01:24 PM
I really think that if you saw a movie like Fist of Legend or Shaolin vs. Lama you would get more of a sense of fighting on screen. If you watch a movie like Ninja in the Dragon's Den, you will see they try to keep the fight going for as logn as possible. When they can do that and still make it look somewhat realistic, it makes it all the more fun.

You should check out like zatoichi movies I guess. The fights in those movies are really short.

Just ignore the moves, turn off your martial arts brain, and it's mindless action ... otherwise you'll start analyzing hey, he should have done that, or that's not xingyi or whatever.

Yeah, Zatoichi are actually pretty good ... I forgot about that guy.

jethro
08-28-2006, 01:33 PM
Just ignore the moves, turn off your martial arts brain, and it's mindless action ... otherwise you'll start analyzing hey, he should have done that, or that's not xingyi or whatever.

Yeah, Zatoichi are actually pretty good ... I forgot about that guy.

Ignore the moves? I just love kung fu movies. You ccan't beat it when you see a horrible movie like Buddhuist assasinator and you actually make it to the final fight to watch one of the greatest scenes ever. Sleeping style!!!!!

Su Lin
08-28-2006, 01:37 PM
Having just finished Masterkiller , there is no way I could ever stop watching kung fu movies. I think it's possible to watch the films and disassociate them from "real life" kung fu, and not to think about them not doing it correctly. That's the thing about all films, they are never going to be completely true to life .

lunghushan
08-28-2006, 01:46 PM
The only way I can watch a movie like 'The One' is by ignoring his moves, and even that is pretty hard when he does his circle walking.

It's especially bad when he's doing his version of xingyi Zuan Quan, and the form is only a few moves anyway, and he does like 2 moves, and then he forgets the 'next move' (which is a turn around, BTW).

Some movies with a lot of wire work are so outrageous and unbelievable that you don't have to worry about it, where they do really weird things, like super-spinning spears, jumping 3 feet in the air, then gliding like 100 feet towards the opponent, all that sort of stuff. Like Crouching-Tiger, Hidden Dragon, you don't have to worry about their martial arts moves at all. (Although that was all grade-A wushu. LOL).

jethro
08-28-2006, 01:47 PM
Having just finished Masterkiller , there is no way I could ever stop watching kung fu movies. I think it's possible to watch the films and disassociate them from "real life" kung fu, and not to think about them not doing it correctly. That's the thing about all films, they are never going to be completely true to life .

What I would do after watching the first Mastrer Killer would be to watch return of mk, disciples of mk and of course the horrible yet beautiful Shaolin vs. Wudang. Gordon Liu is good:D

Su Lin
08-28-2006, 01:48 PM
I think the recent wire work movies are good, but I much prefer the "old school" movies .

Su Lin
08-28-2006, 01:49 PM
What I would do after watching the first Mastrer Killer would be to watch return of mk, disciples of mk and of course the horrible yet beautiful Shaolin vs. Wudang. Gordon Liu is good:D


Going to watch Return of MK shortly! Looking forward to it!

jethro
08-28-2006, 01:50 PM
The only way I can watch a movie like 'The One' is by ignoring his moves, and even that is pretty hard when he does his circle walking.

It's especially bad when he's doing his version of xingyi Zuan Quan, and the form is only a few moves anyway, and he does like 2 moves, and then he forgets the 'next move' (which is a turn around, BTW).

Some movies with a lot of wire work are so outrageous and unbelievable that you don't have to worry about it, where they do really weird things, like super-spinning spears, jumping 3 feet in the air, then gliding like 100 feet towards the opponent, all that sort of stuff. Like Crouching-Tiger, Hidden Dragon, you don't have to worry about their martial arts moves at all. (Although that was all grade-A wushu. LOL).


crouching dragon blew ass

I am telling you check out shaolin vs lama and tell me what you think.

the One is HORRIBLE but it is sweet when he is on the pyramid knocking evryone off:D

jethro
08-28-2006, 01:51 PM
Going to watch Return of MK shortly! Looking forward to it!

That is one of the movies that really got me hooked. A true classic.

Su Lin
08-28-2006, 01:59 PM
Cool , ill fix myself and drink and watch it! I think it was Chinese Ghost Story Pt1 that got me into watching martial arts films.

Su Lin
09-01-2006, 10:23 AM
I can tick Incredible Kung Fu Mission off the list! Liked that one, shame about the dubbing! Also just watched Shaolin Temple II Kids from Shaolin, quite good!
Im doing well!

jethro
09-02-2006, 12:34 PM
I can tick Incredible Kung Fu Mission off the list! Liked that one, shame about the dubbing! Also just watched Shaolin Temple II Kids from Shaolin, quite good!
Im doing well!

Those are certainly 2 good ones, keep up the good work:D

Su Lin
09-02-2006, 12:39 PM
And just watching Legend of Drunken Master,which I'm enjoying a great deal!Its like winter here, so the perfect opportunity to stay in and watch ! Got 36 Deadly Styles and Spiritual Kung Fu to get through too .May have to offset them with the final Babycart film at some point though.:p

jethro
09-02-2006, 01:30 PM
And just watching Legend of Drunken Master,which I'm enjoying a great deal!Its like winter here, so the perfect opportunity to stay in and watch ! Got 36 Deadly Styles and Spiritual Kung Fu to get through too .May have to offset them with the final Babycart film at some point though.:p

36 deadly styles is a good movie. If you have seen Mystery of chess boxing, then you will notice the styel fo it right away. There is a scene to look out for where the kickmaster silver fox(hwang Jang Lee) jumps over a guy and then kicks him in the back:eek:

Then befroe the final fight we have a rematch between ghostface killer(mark long) and his real life brother JACK LONG!!!!!!!!!!

and then to top it off, it does not get anymore classic than bolo's wig

decent movie but not great


and then when you get done with that tell me what you thought of Jackie chan as Karate Ghostbuster:p

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 05:23 AM
Anyone seen Arahan :
http://www.kungfucinema.com/reviews/arahan.htm

I thought it was great!

jethro
09-27-2006, 01:43 PM
Is it available on Region 1 DVD?




















PS-don't tell anyone this. I have actually started to mix quite a bit of Hong Kong action movies into my kung fu diet. It has been workign out well. I have Dr. Lamb and the Big Heat coming via netflix. ssshhhhhhhh

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 01:48 PM
Hmmm I may start a thread called OT Everybody Jethro has been watching other films that kung fu ones!!!

I imagine you can get it on Region 1, its fun! Sssh I watched Akira today and that isnt a kung fu film!

jethro
09-27-2006, 01:54 PM
I don't think anyone would get mad at me. Since it is a Hong Kong flick it still has kung fu in it sometimes, it is just not all that well done.

The best American kung fu movie I have seen is True Romance.

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 01:56 PM
Im sure they will go easy on you! What about Kill Bill 2 with Gordon Liu?

jethro
09-27-2006, 02:01 PM
Kill Bill 2 was great. Only reason 2 is even nearly on the same level as kill bill 1 is because of Pai Mei.

And the writing that Tarantino did on True Romance is about 1000 times better.

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 02:03 PM
Yep True Romance is excellent,not seen it in ages though!

jethro
09-27-2006, 02:04 PM
Have you by any chance seen the original Iron Monkey(1977)?

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 02:30 PM
Is it the one with Chen Kwan Tai in? If so I have it here in my little hands!

jethro
09-27-2006, 02:35 PM
Yes it is. Was watching it last night for the first time in many many years and I liked it, but I didn't. I don't want to spoil it by telling you my MAJOR problem in the movie, have you seen it?

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 02:36 PM
YEs but it was a while back now.What do you think?

jethro
09-27-2006, 02:56 PM
Like I said, I had a major problem. It starts off a little odd with the real life monkey eagle fight, but actually gets much worse than that.

Chen Kuan Tai's family is put in prison for being Ming partiots. Tai isn't there when they are arrested so he doesn't get caught. The spy knows that Tai is missing so they try to get information from his family. When a young boy tries to squeal, Tai's father kills the boy. This I actually could have lived with as it showed honor in an extreme way. But then when Tai becomes an officer for the Ching's he goes on a murdering spree. In order for him to become a highranking official so he can get close to the general and kill him, HE KILLS A BUNCH OF PATRIOT'S!!!!!!!! I thought this was a horrid writing and directing job on the movie. I think they intentionally did this so you would have more emotion in the fights with the villians. They succeeded in a way though cause the fights were bloody as hell and that was the films only saving point.

But then the ending is so freaking stupid. He should have been punished for all of those murders!

But then again, the final fight was sweet:D

Su Lin
09-27-2006, 03:03 PM
Cant remember that, as I said it was a while ago. But will watch it again!
Have just realised that Gordon Liu may be at Seni 07 martial arts show in Londn next May.
Im going to go and try and touch him!:p I think John Saxon goes a lot too,but not so interested in touching him!

jethro
09-27-2006, 03:17 PM
Is this code for you wanting to touch me?:p

Su Lin
09-28-2006, 02:27 PM
Lol!
IF you look just like Gordon Liu then yes, Ill touch you! :eek:

jethro
09-28-2006, 02:38 PM
So you are telling me I have a chance :D


Let me know how it goes with the master killer.

Su Lin
09-28-2006, 02:40 PM
Ah its not till next May ! And I was probably looking at last years programme!
Get working on your Hung Gar!:p

stainlesschi
10-21-2006, 01:50 PM
ong bak
fearless
enter the dragon
way of the dragon
fists of fury


bruces movies would be at the top but the acting sucked

jethro
10-21-2006, 03:33 PM
If you liked Ong Bak then check out Tom Yum Goong AKA The Protector AKA The Warrior King. Twice as good as Ong Bak and no acting required.

deungms
10-31-2006, 07:18 AM
I like several martial arts movies, which has each some great fighting scenes:

Prodigal Son: fight between Leung Yee Tai and his provoker

Rumble in the Bronx: wooden dummy

Enter the Dragon : scene against Bob Wall

Glimmer Man

Rapid Fire: it's a rare thing to see a wing chun ( or JKD ) alike fights.

Tai Chi Master: flexible force

Zatoichi, newest version of 2003 with Takeshi Kitano: he gives a great performance of sword fighting!

Aragami: special sword fight movie, with only 3 characters

There is no particular given order of choice.

:cool:

Asian49ers
11-04-2006, 07:27 AM
I am a big fan of Jet Li

The whole series of Wong Fei Hong
Tai Chi master

I also like first and second drunken master by Jackie Chan :)

doug maverick
09-23-2007, 10:43 PM
when i say kung fu i mean movie that deal directly with the art of kung fu, meaning old golden harvest/shaw bros. flicks, nothing modern.

to me it has to prodigal son, the fights are amazing the story is just as good, and the ending fight scene d@mn i still haven't seen a fight like that in a kung fu flick

jethro
09-23-2007, 10:46 PM
For me it is an easy choice. Legend of a Fighter. My favorite movie Sammo directed is Knockabout. I liked LAm Ching Ying's fights in Prodigal Son but I didn't like the other fights nearly as much. And Shaolin vs Lama is my second favorite movie. Third is Killer Constable.

doug maverick
09-23-2007, 11:07 PM
the fight between frankie chan and yuen biao is probably the best fight scene from that era.

jethro
09-24-2007, 01:47 PM
For me Frankie Chan vs Lam Ching Ying is 100 times better. I have never seen more perfect movements in a kung fu movie.

doug maverick
09-24-2007, 05:28 PM
the best part about the whole thing is that frankie chan didn;t know anything prior to doing this movie, which proves how good of a movie that is and how good sammo is as a choreagrapher.

jethro
09-24-2007, 05:41 PM
Well that is pretty amazing. I thought Frankie Chan was good, but Lam Ching Ying completely blew me away. That teahouse fight where he fights Chung Fa, D!ck Wei, and then Frankie Chan is one of my favorite fight scenes. Probably one of my top 10 favorite fight scenes.

yutyeesam
09-25-2007, 12:05 AM
My personal favorite is Born Invincible. The teaming up of Carter Wong and Lo Lieh as bad dudes, man, I'm a fan.

Plenty of fight AWESOME scenes, Yuen Wo Ping choreographed, but with old school players and old school sensibilities, and a wicked Bagua diagram drawn into dirt.

Plus that one dude's double broadsword play is pretty righteous!

And after watching it, you can't help but bring your wu sao hand down through your centerline while whistling!

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Jimbo
09-25-2007, 12:30 AM
Years ago I had read that Frankie Chan had been a Tae Kwon Do stylist, but perhaps that writer was mistaken(?).

For myself, the best MA movie is Shaolin Martial Arts. Directed by Chang Cheh, starring Fu Sheng and Chi Kuan-Chun. M.A. director is Lau Kar-Leung. Also the first movie appearances of Gordon Liu, Wang Lung-Wei, and Liang Jia-Ren (Leung Kar-Yan). Very old-school; in fact, it's the prototype of the long, arduous kung-fu training sequences in movies. It's not as fast-paced as later films like Prodigal Son, etc., but has a classic plot (near-invincible Manchu villains and the Shaolin Disciples who must train to overcome the Manchus' hard qigong and iron body). Yuen Siu-Tin has a role as a master who teaches Fu Sheng the crane (called stork in the film) style. Nothing flashy in the film, just straight-up Shaolin vs. Manchu storyline. This film, and/or the later Invincible Shaolin, inspired Uma Thurman's training sequences and technique in Kill Bill II.

IMO, a vastly underrated film, and not readily available yet in the States. Hopefully, Celestial/Dragon Dynasty will eventually pick it up and release it on DVD.

doug maverick
09-25-2007, 12:39 AM
i got the info of frankie chan not knowing martial arts from bey logans book i forgot the name, but it was very informative.

yutyeesam
09-25-2007, 01:05 AM
I think this is the book you're talking about:
http://www.amazon.ca/Hongkong-Action-Cinema-Bey-Logan/dp/0879516631

Frankie Chan was known for his musical scoring of movies, I think.

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Su Lin
09-25-2007, 02:47 AM
I watched Prodigal Son last week and would agree with Jethro,awesome stuff.I am afraid I am going to have to be predictable and say 36th Chamber though.Or Drunken Master.Gaah I can't choose!!!

doug maverick
09-25-2007, 07:01 AM
36 chambers bored the hell out of me, i mean the movie is good but its not lau kar leungs or gordon lius for that matter best film, the sequal was worse. maybe i'm saying this because the version i saw was a special extended version of it.

Su Lin
09-25-2007, 07:03 AM
I agree about the sequel,it sucked !

sanjuro_ronin
09-25-2007, 07:38 AM
Executioners from Shaolin :D

never have so many trees been abused !

yutyeesam
09-25-2007, 07:42 AM
36 chambers bored the hell out of me, i mean the movie is good but its not lau kar leungs or gordon lius for that matter best film, the sequal was worse. maybe i'm saying this because the version i saw was a special extended version of it.

On it's own, I totally agree. I think the movie takes too long to build, and the pacing is pretty darn slow.

But, this has been an incredibly influential movie, and the first time I saw it I was so freakin pumped afterwards. I saw it in the early 80's where there were very very few choices of martial arts films to rent from my local video store. And aside from the Bruce Lee movies (which we watched ad nauseum) the ones they had were pure crap, mostly made in America.

So we rent this Master Killer movie, sit through it as we've sat through so many bad MA movies (our tolerance for slow, bad MA movies was up because of this), and then he starts training at the Shaolin Temple. That was the first time we'd seen anything like that before, and of course fell in love with the movie and couldn't stop talking about it in our respective Kung-Fu classes.

Contrast that to today. Good Kung-Fu movies all over the place. You don't even need the movie, you can just catch the highlights of them on youtube. The mindset when watching a martial arts movie today is different today than it was when you didn't have hardly any choices for Hong Kong action films in the early 80's video store era.

But like I said, I agree - whenever I show Master Killer to my students, I pretty much explain the story and zip right up to the Shaolin Temple training! hehe

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doug maverick
09-25-2007, 09:03 AM
i watched master killer for the first time like five years ago and i had already been exposed to jackie chan sammo hung and donnie yen films for years, also i'd sen other lau kar leung films like challenge of the masters before i watched master killer, so i was a bit dissapointed.

yutyeesam
09-25-2007, 09:09 AM
i watched master killer for the first time like five years ago and i had already been exposed to jackie chan sammo hung and donnie yen films for years, also i'd sen other lau kar leung films like challenge of the masters before i watched master killer, so i was a bit dissapointed.

Makes sense.

What do you think about Warriors Two compared to Prodigal Son?

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CLFNole
09-25-2007, 10:25 AM
I am rather partial to Heros of the East (Shaolin vs. Ninja).

godzillakungfu
09-25-2007, 10:33 AM
Makes sense.

What do you think about Warriors Two compared to Prodigal Son?

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So, many great movies.

I hated 36th Chamber because of the pacing. Then I watched again after being in Martial Arts for awhile and it was a much better movie.

I saw Legend of A Fighter for the first time about 2 years ago. One of the few that actually lived up to the hype.

You know the star has no real MA training right?

It is hard to choose between the two. They both have great stories IMO. Prodigal has a better representation of WC. Warriors Two is just ridiculous fun.

doug maverick
09-25-2007, 12:26 PM
i liked prodigal son better, as you get to see lueng chan become the person he was is in warriors two.

jethro
09-25-2007, 05:34 PM
I wasn't bored for a second during 36th Chamber. Gordon Liu becoming a man is amazingly done. The way he defeats the senior monk is brilliant. It is not your average kung fu movie. The first half of the movie is spent at the temple training and they spend a lot of time on those scenes. In terms of choreography it isn't Lau Kar Leung's best, but as a movie it is a kung fu masterpiece. I actually like the sequel better. Some great comedy and the end fight is one of the best ever. Part 3 (Disciples of the 36th Chamber) is not as good as the first 2 but still worth checking out because of the comedy and a great final fight.

doug maverick
09-25-2007, 05:37 PM
come ion jethro are you kiddding me serious that filmed sucked!!!!!put down the weed man put down the weed!!!j/k:D

jethro
09-25-2007, 05:42 PM
What all 3 of them sucked? You need to be the weed down while you watch the movies:p

RAYNYSC
09-25-2007, 05:48 PM
Here are a few off the top of my head some have already been mentioned some haven't .
18 Legendary wepons of Kung Fu
Mystory of chess boxing
Tiger over the wall
7 grand masters
Legend of a fighter
Fighter in the wind
Shaolin vs Lama
Prodigal son
Warrior's two
Mantis fist fighter
Mad monkey kung fu
Snake in the monkeys shadow

There are lot more that I know of & have just can't remember all of the name's off the top of my head at point & time.

doug maverick
09-25-2007, 05:54 PM
while this was a good movie without a shadow of a doubt it was a poor poor representation of the life of mas oyama. and total fiction and i think oyama would've been ****ed by the air force scene

RAYNYSC
09-25-2007, 07:24 PM
"while this was a good movie without a shadow of a doubt it was a poor poor representation of the life of mas oyama. and total fiction and i think oyama would've been ****ed by the air force scene."

So am I to believe what you're saying about all of the other representation's of the movie's mentioned are a 100% accurate!... ( As that's what it sounds like )Give me a brake it's a movie you know entertainment therefore there are going to be exaggeration's made no matter how fictional they may seem.
Let me put it to you like this I'm sure you've seen the movie The Dragon ( The Bruce Lee Story) That would be like you telling me that everthing in that movie was true I don't think so & this is a movie about one of if not the most influential martial artistest of the 20th century. Nothing could be further from the truth. The question at hand is do you argee?

Jimbo
09-25-2007, 07:33 PM
As for 36th Chamber, how a KF movie fan views it has a lot to do with when you saw it first. I first saw it a year after it was made, so at that time it was pretty surprising. Gordon Liu did a great job acting; at that time and even up to present day, very few KF stars could act from a bumbling neophyte evolving into a master so convincingly. He also had good body language/facial expressions to where you knew how his character felt or was thinking. I was actually more impressed with the storyline and acting than I was with the choreography.

The one thing that always puzzled me from the first time I saw it, though, was the training scene with the reflecting mirrors on the wooden dummies. It happens before Gordon Liu/San Te learns "boxing," yet he's striking/kicking the dummies like he was already kung fu-trained.

A lot of the best-made classic KF movies of the '70s would not be popular at all today, because most people nowadays have grown up in a more rushed society. Martial arts-type movies that once took the time to tell a story and build up gradually to a conclusion can rarely hold people's attention anymore. They lacked the quick-cut editing, fast-paced storylines, more frequent action, and computer effects of the last couple decades. Things come faster now, but do not hold the attention to the same degree, and are also more quickly forgotten than in decades past.

Even after seeing so many really good KF films, my favorites are still the mid-'70s Chang Cheh Shaolin series of films. I suppose they made such a memorable impression for me that the later films cannot quite surpass them.

BTW: Yes, Leung Kar-Yan was never a formally-trained martial artist. I think he was probably the most naturally talented non-martial artist to play these kinds of roles. Also, some others who by their own admission aren't real martial artists: David Chiang, Hui Ying-Hung, Lo Lieh.

doug maverick
09-25-2007, 08:30 PM
So am I to believe what you're saying about all of the other representation's of the movie's mentioned are a 100% accurate!... ( As that's what it sounds like )Give me a brake it's a movie you know entertainment therefore there are going to be exaggeration's made no matter how fictional they may seem.
Let me put it to you like this I'm sure you've seen the movie The Dragon ( The Bruce Lee Story) That would be like you telling me that everthing in that movie was true I don't think so & this is a movie about one of if not the most influential martial artistest of the 20th century. Nothing could be further from the truth. The question at hand is do you argee?

even thou dragon the bruce lee story was exagerated it was still fact based. fighter in the wind was way off th mark, but thats beside the point as it was still a great film and i've watched it quite few times.