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Skarbromantis
06-27-2002, 07:33 AM
What up to all Wing Chun players!!

I have a question that really needs an answer, if any one can help, please do...

Has any one gone to a William Chung seminar?, how are they?
what can you expect to learn?, also does Master Chung give a cirtificate after the seminar, what is the cirtificate for?
can you become a Sifu through these seminars?

I have a friend who i havent seen in a couple of years, who also trains , all of a sudden he opens a school, claiming that he got a teaching cirtificate from Master Chung, and that he has reached something like 10th level whatever in the system, all in like 2-3 years?, so i go to Master Chung website to see if i can find him under the Sifu list, but i can only find him in the picture gallery, under seminars, shaking Williams hand getting a cirtificate.

So can anyone help?

Thank you

Skard1

sunkuen
06-27-2002, 07:45 AM
I think you gotta beat him up first , then you get a certificate.

black and blue
06-27-2002, 07:48 AM
What... a certificate from Emin?

:)

Skarbromantis
06-27-2002, 08:01 AM
Also in the series of pictures, from the Toronto seminar,
there is another guy standing beside all the people getting cirtificates, but in his solo photo he's getting a banner with Chungs school logo on it, is this what you recive when you have reached sifu in Williams system.


Skard1

Beowulf
06-28-2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Skarbromantis
Also in the series of pictures, from the Toronto seminar,
there is another guy standing beside all the people getting cirtificates, but in his solo photo he's getting a banner with Chungs school logo on it, is this what you recive when you have reached sifu in Williams system.


Skard1

It's Cheung, BTW.

fantom
06-30-2002, 05:37 PM
I have attended two seminars of William Cheung's.

The first was a gem. 3 hours a day for 5 days. As it was held during a normal working week, and in the morning only 8 people attended. Although I had no physical touch with William, just watching and listening to him was enough to change my approach to wing chun. It took 6 -12 months to apply what I learnt during that week.

The next seminar was attended by over 40 people. Lots of new students and the street combat theme meant I gained little from the seminar, but again it changed my wing chun - as I met another student of Williams on the course, who I now do all my training with.

I have also had the opportunity to attend a normal class that William ran. It was action packed and easily the most enjoyable and informative class I had ever attended.

William is a great teacher, but when there are heaps of students attending it is difficult for senior students to glean information. Also some of his combat seminars, while interesting don't really help your wing chun directly.

The certificate is given to every student who attends the course. Stand there chewing your nails, and you will still get a certificate.
Do these courses make you a Sifu?- You should know the answer to that question.

Do find out what is going to be covered by the seminar, attend if you can afford it. Watching and listening to Willliam Cheung will inspire your wing chun training.


Cheers

anerlich
06-30-2002, 06:42 PM
I have a question that really needs an answer, if any one can help, please do...

Has any one gone to a William Chung seminar?, how are they?
what can you expect to learn?, also does Master Chung give a cirtificate after the seminar, what is the cirtificate for?
can you become a Sifu through these seminars?


That' more than one question, dude ... ;)

Yes, I have been to more than a few seminars, up until 1996.

How are they? It varies. I'd been to a butterfly sword seminar that I thought was fantastic, a whole lot of stuff I'd never seen before. I'd stay away from some of his more commercialised offerings like PRO-TEKT and his health systems which are highly derivative. I wouldn't touch some of the latest military style CQC stuff he's promoting with gun disarms, etc. That looks like a great way to get killed.

The subject is usually announced ahead of time.

Often he will give a certificate after the seminar, but it is usually just to record the fact that you attended a seminar.

If you can now become a Sifu in the WWCKFA just by attending seminars, that would be hugely disappointing. I was graded to instructor level in the WWCKFA in 1995 after six solid years of busting my a$$ training 3 classes a week plus extra at home. No one at my school did it in less than about four and a half years. You have ten levels to go through to reach your gold sash, instructor level. Perhaps if your buddy had a lot of experience in other styles he might have been accellerated through, but 2-3 years seems more than a bit too short.

Things may have changed (my teacher left the WWCKFA in 1996), but when I achieved that level I received a framed certificate indicating I had been graded to instructor level.

Skarbromantis
07-01-2002, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the reply's