Empty Force Again!

[Lobo]

http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/kki/1986/may86/emptyforce/emptyforce.html

http://www.blackbeltmag.com/archives/kki/1986/may86/emptyforce/tech.html

http://www.buqi.net/gb/1/empty_force.html

http://www.richmooney.com/articles.html (I have this guys book, he teaches how to do this)

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Regular/rudolf17.htm

http://itcca.org/English.htm (click on the chi examples)

http://www.yichuankungfu.com/frpage.htm

[dre_doggX]

Trying to get this with doing sil lum tao, for long periods of time.
I know know that any kungfu movement qi cant be forced, but what if you intent is to attack, BUT yourout of breath to exhile, what do you do, it froce breath this is bad so what can you do???

[Mojo]

Dre
That's funny, I'm going to have to start posting while I'm high too.

[Fu-Pow]

Wasn't it P.T. Barnum who said "There's a sucker born every minute."

[gazza99]

How are things Rich?
Gary

[dre_doggX]

For real any answers to my question.

I wrote earlier:

Trying to get this with doing sil lum tao, for long periods of time.
I know know that any kungfu movement qi cant be forced, but what if you intent is to attack, BUT yourout of breath to exhile, what do you do, it froce breath this is bad so what can you do???

[Nexus]

It is very common to run out of breath in the learning stages of t'ai chi and chi kung (ie. the first 5 years or so). When this occurs, continue the movement completely and bring the mind through the body as if it were the breath. For instance, on a brush knee, if you are drawing breath from the earth, through the backleg, up the back and down the arm that is projecting, and you run out of breath when your mind has reached the shoulder, continue the projection as if you still had breath. (Don't panic!).

In a combat situation, you will not likely be coordinating full length breaths with applications anyways, so you should become comfortable completing movements without a breath left. You do not want the body to rely on the breath to complete or flow through a movement, however the breathing in coordination with movement is beneficial still in helping the body relax during forms as well as increasing the mind-body relationship.

[ewallace]

What's the matter Gary? You don't believe in chi projection? I project that I will get two chi's in my face tonight.

Hopefully my wife won't be home late from work.

:)

[gazza99]

Good for you Eric!:)

[Internal Boxer]

A fool and his money are easily parted

But there was much comedy value in those articles, thanks for the entertainment Lobo.

:D :D :D

[Liokault]

This stuff just makes me angry.

[Scarletmantis]

Was it Fu Pow who said "...sarcastic, inflamatory, condecending comments will not be tolerated"? Or wait, did he quote P.T. Barnum's "sucker born every minute" with the implication that this thread starter is a "sucker"?

For a "Taoist Humanist" he sure seems to be a wee bit full of contradictions. Maybe he's showing us the futility of argument through an example of dualistic Yin/Yang thinking. Thank you for enlightening us Fu Pow.

Oops! I'm being sarcastic, inflamatory, and condescending! I'm on his list! Wait a minute, does this mean he's on his own list?

What is a list anyway?

What is life?

How do I manifest the Taoist principle of effortlessness without effort and attain the immortal lotus mind?

See, it's working! :D

[dre_doggX]

I tried to by his empty force from amazon but it is out of stock, you know where I can get it. where and when did you get it.
Tell me more about the postures it teaches if you cant find a place where I can get it

[Lobo]

I never ordered the empty force from amazon but I do have the MInd Over Matter book by Master SHi ming and also the Richard Mooney book.

[Spirit Writer]

Was thinking last night, some dolphins and whales knock out their pray using sound waves -- so from a science perspective, a no touch blow is possible, at least in some mediums with some technique.
This said, I am 100% against the type of claims being made by individuals like the one in this months article. Not saying it can't be done, just very cautious when hearing such things. Maybe we should look to the sea. A sharp short power at a certain frequency? Just brainstorming.

PS. Scarlet Mantis: Like is EXACTLY what YOU make it to BE

[No_Know]

If exhaled merely do the whatever on an inhale but think the action outwards.

Attain a Lotus mind? Have plants on the brain.

What is Life? It is a dream we all have at the same time...do something other than wake me. -Ernie Moore Jr.:~>

[dre_doggX]

Where CAN I get those books then, thankx

[dre_doggX]

where can I get the books you got. and what do they teach

[Walter Joyce]

"PS. Scarlet Mantis: Like(sic) is EXACTLY what YOU make it to BE"

Nice thought in re positive thinking, but...

The woman who is raped and murdered on her way to her car after working the late shift....is her life exactly what she made it to be?

The child who is born with an incurable disease and will never see life past the age of 5...is his life exactly what he made it to be?

The list goes on and on...nice thought, but life is what life wants to be, if we are lucky we can figure out how we fit into it.

[{i^(]

you may be hyperventilating. always a risk. that tibetan kung fu site has an article on that problem in its research papers section.

from it:
"But, what of hyperventilation, aren’t martial artists expert breathers?

At school, most people are taught that carbon dioxide, is just a waste gas, a
by-product of respiration, and therefore of no value to the body. This, is False. It turns out that C02 (carbon dioxide) is essential for maintaining a healthy mental and physical state"

" C02 is an acid. This acid,
helps to balance the alkalines within the body, and thus maintain a normal pH. (percentage hydrogen) value. The bodies first line of
maintenance of pH. is through regulation of breathing; if it is too acidic then C02 is ‘blown-off’ through an increase in respiration, if too alkaline, then respiration is reduced."

www.tibetankungfu.com

[{i^(]

of course, you may not be. ;-)

[Spirit Writer]

WJ, there is a response to this, but I KNOW you won't believe it ...
Am I wrong?