mantis108
07-06-2002, 12:57 PM
Tainan posted this on the other thread. I thought it not only deserves its own thread but also brought up some interesting point in Shun Fa.
First the post:
<<<Tainan wrote:
Pai An
PM has a basic skeletal framework that the practitioner can use as hooks (figuratively) to hang other techniques.
This skeletal framework is 1 or 2 short partner exercises going down the line.
Different schools use different names...
Pai An
Po An
Yen Ching Po Fa
Lian Er Zhang
little/big open gate
This method dates back to at least Liang Hsuehsiang, the common denominator of all PM styles except 6 Harmony.
Some advantages of this method...
After mastering this short partner drill both people can use full speed and power while trying to hit the correct target.
As long as the proper defense is used no one will be maimed.
New techniques can be added to the original drill which makes for a unique method of organizing the information in the mind...
...proper mental organization is essential so that the student's mind can react without deliberate thought.
This method is not unique to PM. It exists in other styles or at least a variant of it.
This type of methodology most likely descends from weapons.
For example:
In saber vs saber the student learns a lot about timing, distance, etc while doing repetitive drills.
If one student chops off his partners hand by mistake because he wanted to be creative he may face a severe reprimand from his teacher.
Also,+ the teacher may get a bad reputation if all his students are digitally challenged.
So this method of drilling helps preserve your own students while teaching you the first step in how to defeat the opponent.>>>
There are quite a few version of Pai An as noted by Tainan. Basically, regardless of variations, it has 3 hand techs and 2-3 kicking techs commonly found in Mantis. The hand techniques or rather concepts are Rolling (Gwan), Leaking (Lau) and Fill (Pu). The kicks are straight kick(Hoi Moon), low Sweep kick (So Tong) and outside Cresent (Bai Lin). The partner will have to exercise Shun Fa which is categorized as "Seem Jin Tang Nor" as the kicks are coming in. Seem Jin Tang Nor is a category of techniques that are not unlike dodging, bobbing, waving, darting, etc... in Boxing. Moreover, it has also jumping, leaping, etc... to avoid kicks or takedowns. The most interesting part of the SJTN is that it is base on the very same principle of attack and defense simutanelously. For example, dodging and head butt at the same time. In that respect, Mantis Shun Fa is far more advanced than western Boxing. That definitely needs the whole body involve otherwise the attack (ie the head butt) won't have any weight behind it while dodging.
Pai An definitely is an important training platform for Praying Mantis.
Mantis108
First the post:
<<<Tainan wrote:
Pai An
PM has a basic skeletal framework that the practitioner can use as hooks (figuratively) to hang other techniques.
This skeletal framework is 1 or 2 short partner exercises going down the line.
Different schools use different names...
Pai An
Po An
Yen Ching Po Fa
Lian Er Zhang
little/big open gate
This method dates back to at least Liang Hsuehsiang, the common denominator of all PM styles except 6 Harmony.
Some advantages of this method...
After mastering this short partner drill both people can use full speed and power while trying to hit the correct target.
As long as the proper defense is used no one will be maimed.
New techniques can be added to the original drill which makes for a unique method of organizing the information in the mind...
...proper mental organization is essential so that the student's mind can react without deliberate thought.
This method is not unique to PM. It exists in other styles or at least a variant of it.
This type of methodology most likely descends from weapons.
For example:
In saber vs saber the student learns a lot about timing, distance, etc while doing repetitive drills.
If one student chops off his partners hand by mistake because he wanted to be creative he may face a severe reprimand from his teacher.
Also,+ the teacher may get a bad reputation if all his students are digitally challenged.
So this method of drilling helps preserve your own students while teaching you the first step in how to defeat the opponent.>>>
There are quite a few version of Pai An as noted by Tainan. Basically, regardless of variations, it has 3 hand techs and 2-3 kicking techs commonly found in Mantis. The hand techniques or rather concepts are Rolling (Gwan), Leaking (Lau) and Fill (Pu). The kicks are straight kick(Hoi Moon), low Sweep kick (So Tong) and outside Cresent (Bai Lin). The partner will have to exercise Shun Fa which is categorized as "Seem Jin Tang Nor" as the kicks are coming in. Seem Jin Tang Nor is a category of techniques that are not unlike dodging, bobbing, waving, darting, etc... in Boxing. Moreover, it has also jumping, leaping, etc... to avoid kicks or takedowns. The most interesting part of the SJTN is that it is base on the very same principle of attack and defense simutanelously. For example, dodging and head butt at the same time. In that respect, Mantis Shun Fa is far more advanced than western Boxing. That definitely needs the whole body involve otherwise the attack (ie the head butt) won't have any weight behind it while dodging.
Pai An definitely is an important training platform for Praying Mantis.
Mantis108