Another Wanker

[BAI HE]

http://cranekungfu.com/qualify.html

[Mr Punch]

LOL at thread title!:D

[old jong]

I have seen that guy (http://cranekungfu.com/james2.jpg)before. He probabely has a good sense of humor, disguising himself as the emperor in Star War or something!
As they say..."There is one born every seconds"

[BAI HE]

LOL! Check out the "Crab" style pic!
Crabs won't be a problem after this
**** rips off your scrotum

[BAI HE]

This is Hilarious!

http://www.worldkungfu.com/general.html

[black and blue]

I've saved the crab stance pic as my background on the PC.

Funniest thing I've seen for weeks!!!

:D

From Kun Tao:

Secret Kun Tao Movement #3

"In all Kun Tao systems, the object of movement is to be in the most advantageous position to neutralize your enemy's options for either his attack or defense. We strive to be behind our attacker's back. We can do the most damage to him from here. We start from any position, as we never know for certain where we will be in relation to our enemy: sitting, standing, lying down, and so forth. We never know for sure what time we will be attacked, be it morning or nighttime; nor do we know what we will be doing: jogging, shopping in the store, stopped sitting in our car, etc. As we get out of the way of the attack, we strive to always move quickly behind him. From our attackers back, we jump in the air and simultaneously wrap our legs around his back, thereby effectively pinning his arms to the sides of his body. As we do this, we grab and tear his throat with our right hand, and close the enemy's airway by pinching his nose and compressing his mouth shut. Now he cannot breathe. We spin the enemy's body around to disorient and distract his mind. As our enemy starts to hit the ground, we loosen our legs so they slide down between his legs, trapping him. By now our attacker should be through. If not, we continue on. We let him lie there.

"We are finished with this technique."

[Budokan]

LOL! I haven't seen a Si-Jo post here in a while. He's old news; we've seen him before on KFO, but he's always welcome and good for an early morning belly laugh. By the way, did you check out his 'bat style'? Awesome technique. There's no way anyone could get past that defense. I noticed a weakness in the crab style, though. His knees are open, inviting a juko-kai style nut crushing crunch. :)

[BAI HE]

tHIS IS THE tECHNIQUE!

http://www.msstate.edu/org/kungfu/graphics/pictures/fireball2.jpg

[Felipe Bido]

Ahh, this was the guy I was talking about in the chatroom a few weeks ago. The Bat style...

He's harmless and funny. Remember: .
(The above picture of the Grand Master, was put on with a sense of humor, he does not wear a hood like this, he can be seen as normal as in doing the monk techniques on the graphics page)


:p

[Black Jack]

I think I have mentioned this before but I have actually crossed hands with that gent and a few of his students WAY back in the mid-90's.

A friend of mine was going up to his place, he trained in his basement and at a local park then, for training in tai chi ch'uan, which is James big thing. I drove him up there a few times and got the chance to meet and play with James and his guys.

For those that care I will try to give what I remeber as a review, first off the guy was off the scale nice, very pleasent and open to questions, and people just hanging out and watching. He seemed to be a good teacher, taking a lot of time with each student, listening to questions, pushing them in class, that sort of thing.

On the physical side, I remeber they actually did a LOT of sparring,
not just one on one, but with multiple attackers, standing and on the ground, sometimes even blindfolded. Though it was a different kind of sparring, very loose and very relaxed but still kinda aggressive, though not as aggressive as I think self defense training should be, his seemed more passive aggressive, not pre-emptive. I think his goal was to combine certain tai chi yeilding principles with his kung fu system, that was one of his goals I believe anyway. They worked on a lot of strikes in the air and on bags, from what was told I believe they did hand conditioning, and even breaking, standing and seated meditation, and other chinese drills.

From what I remeber most of his students blew, with the exception of himself and one senior, I crossed hands with three people there and one mass attack experiment, one average student, guy was a drip and a whiner, the senior who was not bad but he was to loose all the time, once I crowded him he did not know what to do in a clinch, I ended up dumping him on the ground a couple times by being forcefull when he was always trying to yeild or something, instead of being sneaky slinky he should of been throwing my ass around and hitting me when chance showed itself.

Believe it or not James was actually good on the mat, he has a judo background and it showed when he fought, back then I remeber ending up on the short, often a deceptive close quarter strike or long range kick and being sweeped and thrown around a bit, he was also a TALL and LANKY guy, around 6'5 or so, myself being stocky, 5'7.

Take that for what its worth, I am not saying its a good system, I would not study his hybrid tai chi gung fu, I hear he is an excellent tai chi man, but it was interesting to say the least and like I said, he was a nice guy who seemed sincerely interested in his students well-being and his approach was about self defense first and health benefits from tai chi second, something which altogether is not that common.

My buddy studied some Tai Chi with him for about 6-8 months and then left because he moved to a different town.

Again take it for what its worth.

[old jong]

Does that excuses the "bat" and "crab" B.S. ?
He could be a 9th degree black belt in judo and still teaching some personnal crab!...I mean crap!
He's just another fake.:rolleyes:

[Suntzu]

http://cranekungfu.com/Gcranegx.htm :eek:

[BAI HE]

Jong - Dont diss the deadly Crab style because you won't be laughing when he crawls up and puts the death grip on your yam bag.

[BAI HE]

"Si-jo James (9/1/1950) has a Master ranking in a most devastating art of Kung-Fu, they have forbidden their name to be used. This unnamed art came from Honan province in Northern China."

You can't even say the name or they will GET YOU!

[Black Jack]

James learned at the Red Dragon Society in Wisconsin, its a school related to the old Green Dragon Society temple in Chicago and the White Tiger Temple in Arizona, the name of the GDS system is chi dao ch'uan/wu chi ch'uan gung fu, its a chinese/burmese system.

I have NEVER heard of those animals though, chi dao ch'uan has 8 burmese animals and it psychological/physical sub-sets, but nothing like the bat, crab, and all that jazz, which makes me think he might of changed some of the animals around so he would not **** people off.

The gds is a bare-knuckle closed door school and they are very protective of there system and its name, I believe that is one of the reasons James could not use it in his marketing, the GDS group is not very friendly when it comes to such stuff, and I stress that comment.

Old Jong,

Bro, don't put words in my mouth, I never said he was not a fake, even though the guy has studied with a lot of top tai chi people like that B.K. Frantiz (?) guy, I could give a rats ass what he is or what he does, I was just stating what I saw, something none of you here have any first hand experiance with, yet feel qualified to comment on, I was just adding some first hand info.

[old jong]

It was not intended this way. What I meant was if he was good in something real, why does he teaches some phoney stuff?...Instead of real Judo?...

[BAI HE]

THE BAT IS REAL!

[Black Jack]

Old Jong,

Darn it, my reply came across a little harsh, sorry.

To answer your question I don't really know. I know why he can not teach chi dao, that is if that is what he is in reference to, but he did teach Chang tai chi as a different class, without the crossbreeding experiment.

I think he also taught judo but I can not be sure. I think his goal was just one of self experimentation, playing with the principles of tai chi and putting them into a internal fighting system, he was always honest with the fact that it was all his own stuff. I agree though, the bat and crab junk is bizarre and it looks retarded, I have never heard of those animals before in any system, I think they are either fake as a strippers headlights or just shifted around crap he made up, take a bit from this, take a bit from that, and zip a dee do, you have the bat!

The real GDS animal spirits consisted of the tiger, panther, leopard, crane, boar, eagle, black cobra and mantis. With sub-sets for different body types and natural mindsets, like the white python, adder, scorpion, falcon, hawk, stuff like that.

Remeber that I saw him almost 8 years ago and I am sure my impressions of his stuff would be changed now. Like I said I would not take his hybrid kung fu, but I don't think he would be bad for the tai chi, or the judo.

[old jong]

Hey Black Jack!...No problem with me!...:)
These things always make me anger a little bit.I don't like things that make Kung Fu people looks like a bunch of clowns who stands in some ridiculous "animals" poses! Whoever have seen some "real" crane style or mantis or whatever know it as nothing to do with that kind of mimicking.
Lucky he did not think about the bloodsucker!!!
:eek:

[Black Jack]

I agree, the stuff he pulls on his website and I bet his teachings does make it harder for the true players to get any real slack.

Guys like him are BJJ'rs wetdreams for wisecracks.:D

[old jong]

If the bat is real!...Why not create the Lobster style?...Or the Clam?...The killer bee would be a nice one!...The toad or even an offshot from the Crab...The pubi$ Crab?...
There arre lots of animals to investigate!:D ;) :p

[252aCtUa|*]

get this!!!

"THE CHANGE
It's been about two years ago in Gold Circle in Mentor, Ohio. Mr. Savelli was my instructor and, I might add, Mr. Savelli is not just a very knowledgeable man in the arts, but a true master. Well, at Gold Circle, Mr. Savelli and his wife were shopping and they had written a check for what he wanted to buy. Well, they questioned his honesty, and he tried to explain, but they persisted in questioning him further. This is very hard to explain. Mr. Savelli changed. His physical appearance took on the form of a leopard-- he didn't grow hair or claws-- but his facial structure changed. His eyes, his whole countenance, and the feeling I felt is best explained like this: If you were placed in a room with no exits and someone dropped a leopard and the same room, that's the feeling. I found myself trembling, and I wasn't in any danger, physically. Needless to say, the persons that this energy was directed towards started backpedalling and apologizing all over themselves. And then it was over. I hope I never have to experience that power ever again, but if anyone reading this has any questions or apprehensions about training under Mr. Savelli, don't worry. You will receive the best and total training ever. He is undoubtedly the Master of the Arts. And a good man.

Thank you, Mr. Savelli,
for my training and experience,

Jeff Hankins"


ummmm huuu what were when why? o yeah MMMMUUUUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA!!!! what a crock of sh|t!!!!

[BAI HE]

Jong - I like the beaver style I learned at the Little Darlin's
Dojo in Vegas.

Oh Man, that was just crude.
Must...shut...down .... before wife...sees screen.....

DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER!!!

[Colin]

I think we have them over here too!

"Classical Kung Fu Association (UK)"
web: http://www.comfrey.freeserve.co.uk/

[Stone Monkey]

I wonder what Chan Sau Chung would have to say about their "Monkey Style"...:rolleyes:

[Gabriel]

Hmm...in his guestbook it lists 82 hits. But only 10 answers are actually there. Were the other 72 messages telling him where to shove it, so he deleted them? :D

Hey, where are you guys finding these hilarious testimonials?

[kungfu cowboy]

Between 'flashing eyes', and 'the Gold Circle mug', I have fallen in love.:)

LOL@BAI HE

[TaoBoy]

Si-jo James (9/1/1950) has a Master ranking in a most devastating art of Kung-Fu, they have forbidden their name to be used.

All this crap may be true - but why bother writing about it?

And that Mantis photo - looks similar to the bat.

"Those who speak do not know. Those who know do not speak."

[BAI HE]

"The Snake System is one of the oldest around. It is characterised by the way it sways and weaves; mesmerising it's opponent until it finds a weak point, and then by very rapid combination attacks to that point. Some Snakes also constrict. All of these elements are to be found in the Snake system. Due to it's nature we would not normally teach the Snake system to beginner."

LOL COLIN!

[guohuen]

I don't think comfrey is the herb they've been using. Jimpsom weed is more likely. I like the "Highway Flagman Directs Traffic" pose in the tiger style section. Thanks, it's comforting to know that charlatans and idiots are universal.

[Colin]

The guy is serious.
I contacted him and he sent a reply. Say that he learnt the Original unmodified Tiger Style from his sifu in the USA
Do any of you know his instructor.
GrandMaster Lowe?

Also did I mention:
www.lionsclawkungfu.co.uk
Here's another Si-jo. With a VCR!

For such a small country, the UK has some real classics! LOL

[anton]

http://cranekungfu.com/Batgx.htm <==Anyone seen Nosferatu?

In case you haven't: http://www.murray.swinternet.co.uk/bristolsilents/nosferatu.jpg

[Ryu]

You have to be certified to teach judo. Not just good at it. I think? :D

Ryu

[Ryu]

"He also holds a 2nd Degree Black Belt in Judo through both the United States Judo Federation and the United States Judo Association. "


nevermind, my bad. :)

Ryu

[old jong]

This animation is too much for me!... (http://www.lionsclawkungfu.co.uk/)

:D Very good if your need to have your back scratched! ;)

[Colin]

Old Jong,
Thanks, I hadn't bothered to wait for the animation to load before, but i'm glad I did!
I've brought this back to the top so others can see this rubbish!

Lions Claw kung fu: Now i'm going to have to scratch your eyes out and slap your cheeks you *****!:p

That and the lovely purple silks! :rolleyes:

Have these people no respect for the CMA's they pretend to teach?

Sad really.

Colin............

[Turiyan]

Originally posted by BAI HE
http://cranekungfu.com/qualify.html

Dude, its the guy from "manhunter san francisco"

[vingtsunstudent]

no way old jong, check really closely at the looks on these guys faces- http://www.lionsclawkungfu.co.uk/temple.asp
vts

[old jong]

These guys?... (http://www.lionsclawkungfu.co.uk/images/temple_opening.jpg)
Are they not from "Rent a shaolin monk" ? ;) :D

[guohuen]

The cast of the Rocky Horror Picture Show meets the Minister of Silly Walks!

[cwheelie]

he has VIDEOS for sale! he wouldn't be selling them if he wasn't for real, right?
(Where's Tai Chi Master Bob Klein when we need him?)

[johnv]

I'm not saying this guy is doing a legit version, but there WERE old Chinese styles based on concepts of the Crab. I don't if there was ever a full "crab style" but I know the concepts and techniques existed at one point.