Options for Temple Kung-fu students:

[Stone Monkey]

A lot has been said about Temple Kung-Fu on this forum - angry rants, useful info, court transcripts - you name it... Although unlikely to change the minds of some, there are probably at least a few TKF students reading this forum and suffering harsh, sinking feelings (judging by the # of hits the TKF megathread gets).
It can be difficult to make a change, especially when one has invested a substantial amount of time/money(!) in their present school, made good friends, etc.
I thought it might be helpful if people had a list of other options in their area.
Following are areas with TKF franchises. If you train martial arts in these areas (Chinese or otherwise) and have had a positive experience with your school (or if you teach), please post the info/area. I took the liberty of adding a list for Vancouver (orig. posted by Firepalm in the 'TKF megathread') as well as Brent Carey in Spokane for a start. Hopefully this will turn into a useful list.

Bellevue:
Edmonds:

South Seattle, Kent:
Mak Fai Washington Kung Fu Club-206-622-1688/ www.makskungfu.com, Taoist Studies Institute- www.taoiststudiesinstitute.org

Spokane:
Brent Carey- www.brentcarey.com, Eagle Dragon Kung-Fu- http://kungfu.uswestdex.com/, Aaction Kenpo Karate, Lotus Self-Defense, Northwest Tai Chi

Vancouver / North Vancouver:
CMA instructors in the Vancouver Area: Xu Gong Wai, Danny Mah, Marquis Lung, Jack Wong- sifu@traditionalkungfu.com, Wong Ha, Hilbert Yiu, Sifu Jon Funk (7*PM)-www.mantiskungfu.com, Gary Seto- www.compu2000.com/setokungfu, Eric Lee, Zhang Zhi Bin, Li Rong, Hansen Li Gang, Raymond Cheung, Fred Kwok- (604) 230-6628, Liang Shouyu, Ken Low- www.kenlow.com, Tony Jay, Peter Wong, Bruce Fontaine, Phil Poon, Benson Xiao, Fred Whiting, Wilkie Wu, Yang Gou Tai, Paul Ng, Victor Fu, Tony Kam, Henry Kam, Frankie Fan, Jun Y. Ng, Lawrence Der, Chan Sau Chung/Chan Kai Leung- www.taishingpekkwar.com, Kelly Maclean, Ian Sinclair, Sam Masich, Al Cheng, Frankie Fan, Vincent Chow, etc.

Langely:

North Edmonton / South Edmonton:
Tom Ng (Ng Tai Man)- www.taichiprayingmantis.org, Green Dragon Kung Fu-http://grndragon.worldgate.ca//780-448-9670


North Calgary / South Calgary:
Tan Chin Hock, My Jong Law Horn (Alex Kwok)-www.albertakungfu.ca,

North Winnipeg / South Winnipeg:
Shaolin West-shaolinwest@hotmail.com, Dragon Shadow Kung-Fu Association-(204) 488-7528/hkbark@mts.net, Green Dragon(Lung Ying):Kevin Barkman-hkbark@mts.netgrndragon.worldgate.ca/204-488-7528, No-Spams school(Bak Hsing Choy Li Fut), Tiger Claw

Toronto:
Chung Sang Lion Dance Club- (416) 340-7388, National Fut Gar Kungfu Training Centre- richard@nationalkungfu.com, Hong Luck Kung Fu Club- info@hongluck.org

Scarborough:
Philipman Chow (7*PM)- Chowphilipman@hotmail.com, Chinese Kung Fu Institute of Canada- (416) 321-6222, Ji Hong Tai Chi College- (416) 463-7703, Shing Tak Tong- (416) 230-1818

Hamilton:
Mississaugua:

[Iron Arahat]

North/South Calgary : Tan Chin Hock

The school has actually had alot of people that were former TKF, who have stated what a positive experience training with Tan is.

[Stone Monkey]

Thanks Iron Arahat...good start.

[BrentCarey]

Originally posted by Stone Monkey
I thought it might be helpful if people had a list of other options in their area.
[...]
Spokane:
Brent Carey- www.brentcarey.com

Hmm. Not sure this Carey guy can be trusted. Also in my area is a place called Eagle Dragon Kung-Fu kungfu.uswestdex.com (http://kungfu.uswestdex.com). I know absolutely nothing about them, so can't recommend one way or another.

There are a couple other places that advertise that they teach kung fu, but according to first and second-hand accounts, you'll basically get Kenpo or something like it.

Those places are:
Aaction Kenpo Karate (yes it's spelled with 2 "A"s)
Lotus Self-Defense (claims to teach a hybrid of Judo, Kenpo, Aikido, Kung Fu, and Muay Thai)

I've heard fairly good reports about Lotus, but you won't get much kung fu as I understand and from what I've seen. I don't know anything about Aaction Kenpo except that I've heard that they are an OK Kenpo school.

Also, Northwest Tai Chi has been marketing more visibly lately. I have heard mixed reviews from unreliable sources. They advertise Tai Chi and Qi Gong emphasizing stress, balance, flexibility, and focus benefits.

Also, as always, anyone in the Spokane area looking for training can contact me. I may or may not be the teacher for you, but I should be able to steer you in the right direction.

I hope this helps someone.

Peace,

Brent Carey

[Skarbromantis]

7 Star Praying Mantis
2400 Midland Ave Unit 105
Scarborough Ontario M1S 5C1
(416) 505- 9230
Chowphilipman@hotmail.com

Chinese Kung Fu Institute of Canada
70 Silver Star Blvd, Unit 107
Scarborough, Ontario M1V 3L4
(416) 321-6222

Chung Sang Lion Dance Club
310 Spadina Ave., Suite 601
Toronto, Ontario M5T 2EB
(416) 340-7388

Ji Hong Tai Chi College
3400 Midland Ave, Unit 13
Scarborough, Ontario M1S 5C6
(416) 463-7703

Shing Tak Tong
Canadian Pakmei Sam Choi Kung Fu Association
210 Silver Star Boulevard, Unit 856
Scarborough, Ontario, M1V 5J9
(416) 230-1818 or (416) 609-1989

The National Fut Gar Kungfu Training Centre
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 832-6549
email: richard@nationalkungfu.com

Hong Luck Kung Fu Club
548 Dundas Street West
Toronto Ont (416) 596-8581
info@hongluck.org

Stone Monkey, i think this is a great idea, hopefully we can help
others, good thinking !!

Skard1

[dezhen2001]

maybe theres some way that you guys can create a directory of CMA schools? Would be a huge task, but in key areas like that it's a good idea :) good luck!

david

[BrentCarey]

Originally posted by dezhen2001
maybe theres some way that you guys can create a directory of CMA schools? Would be a huge task, but in key areas like that it's a good idea :) good luck!

david


Not a bad idea. I know that there are a ton of MA directories on the web, but I don't know of any that are specifically for CMA.

Does anyone know of one? If not, I would volunteer to help create one. I get a ton of enquiries all the time asking for help finding a school either here in Spokane, or elsewhere.

Ideally, someone like KF Magazine would host the directory, but they may not wish to for several understandable reasons (advertisers, perceived endorsements, etc). If not, I would volunteer to build and host the directory if one or two people volunteered to help populate it.

Of course, if a good directory already exists that I don't know about, there's no point reinventing the wheel.


- Brent Carey

[Stone Monkey]

Thanks guys - looks like we're getting some good raw data together at least - perhaps to be posted later in a more comprehensive format (?). Good idea about the directory, although I agree with, uh... not reinventing the wheel ;). I'd be glad to contribute what I can however.

Keep 'em coming...!

[Fu-Pow]

Well, I'm from Seattle so we have at least a couple TKF schools around here. We even have some converts at my school.

My school is

Mak Fai Washington Kung Fu Club
601 S. Jackson St.
Seattle, Wa
206-622-1688
www.makskungfu.com

Sifu Mak teaches traditional Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu. He has over 35+ years experience. He started out in traditional southern praying mantis and knows some Hung Ga and Yang Taiji. He is regarded by many people to be the "King of the Lion Dance."
We also have a visiting Sifu, Sifu Chu. He teaches Hung Ga, Nan Quan Wushu and Yang Taiji. He teaches privately out of our school. Both these guys are very traditional and very kick ass. Be prepared to do a lot of performing though.

The other place I train is the

Taoist Studies Institute
Palatine Ave.
Seattle, WA
www.taoiststudiesinstitute.org

The main teacher is Shr Fu Harrison Moretz. He teaches traditional Chen Style Taiji and Hun Yuan Chi Gong. Xing Yi and Bagua Zhang classes are also available although Taiji is his main gig. There are a whole range of other classes and seminars available through the institute also ranging from Traditional Chinese Medicine to Chinese Language Classes. I might also add that Harrison is fluent in Mandarin Chinese and is a licensed acupuncturist. Very good stuff but definitely more of a "hippy" atmosphere than the kung fu school. Don't be fooled though, Harrison really understands the "internals" and how to use them, especially joint locking. There is also a Northern Praying Mantis Sifu that teaches out of the school although I've never seen him perform before so I can't say if it is any good or not.

Well that's a couple of options, although I'm sure there is some other good stuff around Seattle. . There are lot's of good teachers out there but you're probably not gonna find them with the big full page add in the yellow pages. Good luck and beware!!!

[David Jamieson]

winnipeg - north or south...

Shaolin West - (Northern/Southern Sil Lum Kung Fu - Pa Kua -Chi Kung , Chinatown - school I was taught Sil lum at.

Green Dragon (Choy Li fut) - on Scurfield blvd, not sure of address

Green Dragon (Lung Ying) - Ao Qin, check his profile.

No-Spams school (Bak Hsing Choy Li Fut) Check his profile.

Tiger Claw - self defense and Tai Chi -exchange district

a few others and some Wu Shu clubs are available there.

peace

[mantis108]

Here's the URL for Sifu Tom Ng who just officially opened his club.

Tai Chi Praying Mantis Kung Fu (http://www.taichiprayingmantis.org)

Mantis108

[Stone Monkey]

This is turning into a nice little list. So many cool arts, so little time.
Calgary people...? Hamilton...?

[Lisa]

My sifu said the My Jong Law Horn school in Calgary is very good.

[oilslickman]

Stone Monkey !
If I inspired this list, thank you my young brother.

Politically correct version here!

Left open hand over right closed fist!

Oiley:)

[Stone Monkey]

Cheers oilslickman - there seem to be quite a few on this forum who have had some negative experiences before going on to train something they really enjoy. You'll find something that fits. It just takes a little longer sometimes...

Potential sparring victims - beware the oilslick :cool:

[Stryder]

Also in Edmonton there is:

Green Dragon Kung Fu
10826-124st
Suite 101 bsmt
ph: 780-448-9670

web site: http://grndragon.worldgate.ca/

The Winnipeg Kwoon, I don't have an address for but I do have a contact number.

Sifu Kevin Barkman
Ph: 1-204-488-7528
e-mail: hkbark@mts.net

[Stone Monkey]

WARNING! Temple Kung-fu is opening a new McKwoon in Langely, BC (604 882 2900). It seems Olaf is spreading his crap even thinner.

:confused:Any schools in Langely we can list???

[Stone Monkey]

LOTF:
I have verified only that these schools are not associated with Olaf Simon. That's good enough for most of the readers of this thread...:)