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dnc101
07-11-2002, 09:00 AM
We've all seen the hype.

SCARS uses natural quickly learned moves that are unbeatable by any except those better trained in their system. I have some of their tapes, and have seen a few more. Their firearms defense is actually good, and their takedowns are all right. But almost all of their striking and blocking is done with large circular movements. Their kicks are mostly straight up the middle, and they are told to allways 'land' forward from a kick. Worse, the only stance they use is the fighting horse. I don't know about the 'best' of you martial artists, but there's not much there that worries me.

I've also seen some of the military 'Spec Ops' stuff. It's about what you'd expect from an entity that emphasizes superior tactics and firepower but has little time to train units to fighting form. Brutal and straight forward, and really usefull if you take out a lot of sentries. I'll stick with Kenpo.

Then there's Krav Maga. I finally got to see some of that yesterday- what a disapointment! Most of their attacks, and a good deal of their defenses, were launched from something similar to our forward bow, only with a less stable base. This less than stable base did, however, allow them to lean waaaaay over forward instead of using a foot maneuver to bridge the gap. Why didn't I think of that? One of its obvious advantages is that if you miss, or if your opponent withdraws his support, you can punch post holes in the ground with yopur nose. But their weapons defenses took the prize. For example, to defend against a knife, you first just reach down and grab his wrist. No preparatory maneuvers to give you position, nothing to minimize his effective range of motion, don't contour his arm to the grab, and no energy wasted on footwork. Just reach down and take ahold, and make sure your thumb is toward your belly, which is not too far from the knife blade. They do train for severe stress and chaos, which is seriously a good thing. I bet they experience a lot of it when trying to use this stuff.

About the only thing of this type I've seen that may be good or useful is the Jing Quan Tao tapes. I think there are only two out now, so it is a little early to tell. But the system is apparently based on solid CMA principles, and Mr Tao is clearly a senior and well rounded martial artist. But notice I said 'apparently', because I'm not well versed in CMA. And, just for the record, Gene didn't cooerce me into saying this. To prove it, I'm going to say there are some things about his tactics I'm not yet convinced of. But I'd be the last one to argue about it with this guy.

So, how about it? What have you guys seen? Anything good? Stuff to avoid? How 'bout something for a good laugh on a slow training day? Books, videos, web sites..., it's an open forum so anything goes. In fact, I was about to say no porn, please; but then I thought about those 'Naked Tai Chi' videos! Any of you admit to seeing those? Bet they were a hoot!

rogue
07-11-2002, 07:40 PM
Good stuff,

Jim Wests Fight to Win,

Randy Warner and Bob Taylors Unarmed and Dangerous,

Vladimer Vasiliev Systema tapes on weapons defense and Escapes.

Any tape by Hwarangdo guys who were thrown out of Hwarangdo and had their black belts revoked. Seriously.

Walt Baylis tapes were OK for their time.

MA fanatic
07-12-2002, 09:13 PM
Here's the thing. I have some SCARS tapes. What a waste of money! An obvious hype over nothing.

I have seen some Krav Maga stuff. I think it's decent basic self defense. Nothing less, nothing more. Just basic self defense.

But, Vlad Vasiliev's stuff is awsome. His tapes are jammed packed with information and his way of fighting is trully unique. Unlike the questionable Spec Op super soldiers which claim to be Navy Seal top secret instructors, Vlad Vasiliev did teach in the Russian Spetznaz units. Russia has had a long history of martial arts, but up until recently the general public had not been exposed to any art with the exception of Sambo and Judo. I'd get video tapes from Vladimir himself (not edited TRS tapes...except Vlad's first set called Russian H2H from TRS...don't mix those with Russian Mega Fighting by TRS...they're different). I didn't like the heavily edited Russian Mega Fighting tape series with Vladimir and Oleg Taktarov. There was so much editing done by TRS, that justice wasn't done to the two men. However, Russian H2H tapes are great. Russian Ground fighting tapes are great. Vlad's knife defense tape is the best I have ever seen on the topic (I think it actually one an award). Actually, his style looked so unique on the videos (which are loaded with information), I went to see him in person when he gave a seminar. The guy had no problem taking on challenge matches and sparring with anyone willing. At one point he took on three guys armed with dull metal knives. He disarmed all of them. I think his instruction is definitely worth exploring. www.russianmartialart.com. He's also a friendly guy if you call him directly, him and/or his wife will answer all your questions.
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MA fanatic
07-12-2002, 09:14 PM
Here's the thing. I have some SCARS tapes. What a waste of money! An obvious hype over nothing.

I have seen some Krav Maga stuff. I think it's decent basic self defense. Nothing less, nothing more. Just basic self defense.

But, Vlad Vasiliev's stuff is awsome. His tapes are jammed packed with information and his way of fighting is trully unique. Unlike the questionable Spec Op super soldiers which claim to be Navy Seal top secret instructors, Vlad Vasiliev did teach in the Russian Spetznaz units. Russia has had a long history of martial arts, but up until recently the general public had not been exposed to any art with the exception of Sambo and Judo. I'd get video tapes from Vladimir himself (not edited TRS tapes...except Vlad's first set called Russian H2H from TRS...don't mix those with Russian Mega Fighting by TRS...they're different). I didn't like the heavily edited Russian Mega Fighting tape series with Vladimir and Oleg Taktarov. There was so much editing done by TRS, that justice wasn't done to the two men. However, Russian H2H tapes are great. Russian Ground fighting tapes are great. Vlad's knife defense tape is the best I have ever seen on the topic (I think it actually one an award). Actually, his style looked so unique on the videos (which are loaded with information), I went to see him in person when he gave a seminar. The guy had no problem taking on challenge matches and sparring with anyone willing. At one point he took on three guys armed with dull metal knives. He disarmed all of them. I think his instruction is definitely worth exploring. www.russianmartialart.com. He's also a friendly guy if you call him directly, him and/or his wife will answer all your questions.
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Black Jack
07-13-2002, 08:09 AM
Best o' the best on the market-

Jim Grovers "Combatives Series" Marine raider and Fairbairn ww2 close combat pov material with a mix of some arnis and other stuff, all very streamlined and hardcore, the guy is the deal, his real name is Kelly McCann, he was a marine and spec op operator, his father was a marine h2h combat instructor, and his grandfather before him, with another h2h expert and marine named Bob Kaspar, they head the private Gung Ho Chuan Association and own the top line international private security consultation firm called the Crucible.

Here is there website-

http://www.ghca.com

I also hear a lot of great things about the Geoff Thompson video's,Petter Consterdine, the Vee Arnis Jitsu tapes by David James, the Arnis Advenculia tapes, the MacYoung videos, Jim West, Peyton Quinn, the Charles Nelson tapes, a lot of good stuff out there, once I get some more cash I will get back to the shopping.

There are a LOT of great books as well.

rogue
07-13-2002, 09:02 PM
Charles Nelson has tapes out? Must get.

MA fanatic
07-13-2002, 09:20 PM
I have Peyton Quin tapes and three Mackyoung tapes. They're pretty good. But, I have to say that when it comes to H2H, weaposn defense, and improvised weapons training, Vlad Vasiliev is King. He also has tapes out by his instructor who is well known in the Former Soviet Union, and still continues to train Soviet Spetznaz, his name is Mikhael Rayko. That man's skill is beyond anything I have seen. If you want to see "chi" in motion, this guy is it. He manipulates your body physically, pyschologically and virtually telepathically. I wouldn't believe it had I not seen it. I also wouldn't believe it had my cousin who competed in numerous kick boxing and bare knuckle karate (kyoshinkai) competition, not been blown away by this man who is only 5'4 (though built like a tank). Check out this russian site www.russianmartialart.com.
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jellyman
07-19-2002, 07:46 AM
He manipulates your body physically, pyschologically and virtually telepathically.

Please note use of the word 'virtually'.

I have clips of some systema work, on my web site, the 2nd one is Ryabko. Please note the disclaimer.

http://communities.msn.ca/RMAHamilton/home.htm

Kempo Guy
07-19-2002, 08:50 AM
Speaking of Mr. Vasiliev's material (which are great by the way), I'd urge people to take a look at some of Scott Sonnon's ROSS tapes, such as "Bayonet Fighting", "Fisticuffs" and "Shockability" (since these are the ones I've seen and own). For me, after seeing the ROSS tapes it really explained quite a bit of the principles of the material shown in Mr. Vasiliev's H2H-tape. So in many ways the Systema and the ROSS tapes are complimentary.

Just my $0.02.
KG

jellyman
07-19-2002, 01:50 PM
and now for something completely different:

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Royal Dragon
07-26-2002, 06:02 AM
What gives, that add has no contact info in it?? How am I suposed to order?