Tze Sua Chien

[Leto]

Has anyone heard of this form? translation is 'pick and play fist'. I think it may be seven star...has a lot of jade ring stance, and use of fists primarily.

[Tainan Mantis]

Never heard of it.
It is an unlikely name for a PM form.
Who teaches it?
Who is his teacher?
Maybe the form has another name that sounds similar to this one. This is a common occurance.

[Leto]

it could have another similar sounding name, or it could be an invention, or a collection of techniques from different styles. I'll wait and see if there are any more responses before saying where it's from. I know this forum is far from being a comprehensive source of all preying mantis knowledge, but it ought to be a good place to find people who are training or have trained in mantis styles, and know some forms.

[Tainan Mantis]

The character shua looks much like yao as in jai yao.

In fact it has been misprinted in some kung fu books I have read. I think by 8 Step PM Wei Hsiaotang if I remember correctly.

Pick -tsai sounds like jai so my guess is this is a corruption of the jai yao forms we have been talking about.

Leto,
Would you be willing to tell us where it is from?