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Former castleva
10-09-2002, 07:26 AM
You heard me.
WeŽll be dealing with some parts of bodily functions and their relation to survival.

IŽll be breaking it into three parts:
1.breathing (knowing that competing styles exist)
2.timing of adrenaline rush
3.combating distracting physical functions related to stress build-up (above)

Breathing:
as previously mentioned it seems there is no correct way to breathe when it comes to dealing with combat,may it be buddhist or "western" thoraxic breathing.
What are your thoughts? First and at times,a hard thing to do is to regulate breathing and even to keep it flowing (abdominal breathing is said to help) also methods of bringing down the heart rate with rapid,calculated breathing pattern.
Deep breathing seems to gain some succes,at least when it comes to beginning of possibly threatening situation to clear the mind (wondering about all this it would seem sinking energy to lower dan tien combined with related abdominal breathing could cause succes? But that may be slightly too simplistic and perhaps difficult solution unless youŽre very proficient) What are your thoughts? Comments on such methods as defeating pain trough certain kinds of breathing and breathing slowly and deeply while at long range are things IŽd be happy to hear of)

2.Timing of adrenaline rush:
By that I mean the connection between the peak of physical performance where body has taken immediate action (as if in a sudden threat where this "boosted" level can be reached within a couple of second) and the fall of it.
IŽve seen a statement that the best level of performance/boost coming from the danger lasts roughly ten seconds,after those ten seconds your strongest (even though confused state,remember about loss of fine motor skills etc.) drops rapidly resulting in trembling and loss of strength.
From here we come to the conclusion that threat should be eliminated in that limited amount of time,or it becomes harder.
The common idea that conflicts often last only some seconds supports this,how about concept of "empty mind" and itŽs relation to this?
Besides that,share your thoughts if you mind.

3.Combating unpleasant symptoms of fear:
EveryoneŽs aware of "butterflies",trembling hands,dry mouth etc.
Concern here is fighting against fear with softening of these symptoms.There has been some empathy towards the idea of fighting fear trough fighting symptoms,such tips including;keeping oneŽs mouth moist to stay calm (any opinions on this?) warming hands etc.
I find this interesting,do you?

Thanks for any input.

LEGEND
10-09-2002, 07:35 AM
Breathing...started to do this YOGA move.
Adrenalin Dump...it starts to kick in when u feel the threat usually the verbal altercation stage.
Butterflys...unfortunately I deal with it by ACTING harder...I rather be done with the verbal altercation stage than deal with the "buttleflys". So I would seek to intimidate the aggressor ASAP...simple line "so whassup...you want to fight!!!???" eyes bulging etc...hopefully the guy backs down or we rumble and hope god bless me that day!

TkdWarrior
10-09-2002, 07:43 AM
well as for as breathing input i hav some thoughts..:
well i guess any breathing technique will do provided u hav uninterrpted flow... no jerks in breathing...as far as breathing deeply if u notice when u r angry or jealous or u r goin thru any emotional change u r breathing will be heavy, interrupted and fast so if u can control ur breath that moment(ie deep breathing from dan tein) will help u regain ur posture.

for aderaline rush i m not a rite person so i won't comment i hav felt somethin like that but i m not sure...

the concept of "empty mind" frankly speaking i hav heard it so many times, talked about it, but still yet to find out wat it is... when situation is on ur heads u need to eliminate danger as fast as u can. one of my street encounter wer something like this my oppnt try to hit me but i hit him fast and effective he was down in fraction of seconds i never had problem puttng him down but after fight i realise wat i done i was kind a sick n worried...i m still figuring out that part :confused:

butterflies yup i m aware i had it when i was on stage in front of 500 + ppl,dry mouths, trembling words, shaking n sweaty hands thnx god i didn't peeved in my pants that day...
it was there too when i was with my GF first time... :eek:
and yea i found it very intresting to study my fav thing which i like to read and ponder in my free time is about human nature, psychology, and things related to that...

-TkdWarrior-

Former castleva
10-09-2002, 09:31 AM
Thanks a bunch fellows.
Now may YOU show up.
:)

Ryu
10-10-2002, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by LEGEND
Breathing...started to do this YOGA move.
Adrenalin Dump...it starts to kick in when u feel the threat usually the verbal altercation stage.
Butterflys...unfortunately I deal with it by ACTING harder...I rather be done with the verbal altercation stage than deal with the "buttleflys". So I would seek to intimidate the aggressor ASAP...simple line "so whassup...you want to fight!!!???" eyes bulging etc...hopefully the guy backs down or we rumble and hope god bless me that day!

Hey Legend,
these kind of semantics might make it harder for you to get off a first strike with the guy. While tough talk does make some back down (and heck I've backed people down in the past bigger then I was..) there are still those people who will take it as an even bigger challenge and either strike first, or possibly even go for a weapon, etc.

I'm pretty calm in confrontations now. You definitely need a cool "presence", but it shouldn't be "tough" at all. You DON'T want the aggressor to think you're challenging him. But you don't want to be coy either. That will also invite an attack sometimes.
Gotta find a calm and confident tone, but use language that defuses the situation a bit. Bring his anger down and his ego up a bit.
Sometimes a guy in your face really doesn't want to fight and just wants to impress his girlfriend or something. If you challenge him with an ultimatum, he now feels that he "has" to fight.

With defusing tactics, being calm, but not aggressive, you can a lot of times ease possible fights, or you can set him up for a strong and completely surprising first strike/blitzkrieg attack.

If he knows you want to fight, he'll be expecting that first strike, and possibly he will strike you first too.

Ryu

yenhoi
10-10-2002, 10:31 AM
I am thinking its a good thing (?) to have butterflys etc, danger sense, wiskers, whatever, doesnt seem to hurt or impede anything, doesnt lead directly to tension.

Through expierence you learn to control, not necessarily 'deal' with adrenaline and/or the lack of.

Breathing has to do with alot of things besides keeping you calm and relaxed. Proper power generation during strikes, movement/yielding when being pressured (attacked, hit, grabbed..). Proper breathing is also apart of having a proper/strong/correct/whatever structure. Theres no right way to breath during a fight, at all times. I dont know how to tell other people how to breath, unless your in the process of hitting with a right cross, or being slugged with a left hook.

Former castleva
10-10-2002, 11:26 AM
Ryu,yenhoi,thanks.

" I am thinking its a good thing (?) to have butterflys etc, danger sense, wiskers, whatever, doesnt seem to hurt or impede anything, doesnt lead directly to tension "
Yeah.Maybe you could call them more like symptoms of the "disease" which it can be while idea was to lessen the amount of imbalanced fear trough defeating some symptoms (even though that does not cover you up in a complete manner)