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FatherDog
04-28-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Xebsball
question:

when you do martial arts - who is your enemy? who do you fight against?


I don't really have enemies. I have opponents.

I fight in tournaments and in rings. It's never personal; I'm competing because I love to do it, and to see how well I can do. I hold no animosity to the person across the mat from me; I'm just going to do whatever I can to win.

It's been years since I've been in a fight on the street; hasn't happened since long before I started taking martial arts. I imagine I'd be a bit more effective now, but it's not what I train for.

Xebsball
04-28-2003, 08:56 PM
another answer for my question:

- social problems
- your neighbour



we were talking about tradicional medicine in class, teas, herbs, magic, religion rituals... then i opened my mouth and said:
MUSHROOM TEA


Fact I: If i talk too much i get put in a nuthouse
Fact II: If i dont talk i dont get the wimmins

Question I: Are there good wimmin in the nuthouse?
Question II: What are the effects of the drugs they give you on the nuthouse over your libido?

Xebsball
04-28-2003, 09:00 PM
You do have an enemy, its the oponents technique/force. And you love fighting his force, though you got nothing against him, you do have something against his force. You want to defeat his force, beat his force, rape his force -> because its what is getting on your way of winning the tournament.
You want to bathe in his forces blood.
The fatigue might be your enemy too.

Well, good night :)

Serpent
04-28-2003, 09:26 PM
Let's hope there are wimmins in the nuthouse.

shaolin kungfu
04-28-2003, 10:10 PM
Maybe they'll even like brazilians.





Probably not though.

SevenStar
04-28-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Serpent
Let's hope there are wimmins in the nuthouse.

From the sounds of that post, he hasn't been gettin wimmins anywhere...

SevenStar
04-28-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by FatherDog


I don't really have enemies. I have opponents.

I fight in tournaments and in rings. It's never personal; I'm competing because I love to do it, and to see how well I can do. I hold no animosity to the person across the mat from me; I'm just going to do whatever I can to win.

It's been years since I've been in a fight on the street; hasn't happened since long before I started taking martial arts. I imagine I'd be a bit more effective now, but it's not what I train for.

My sentiments exactly.

shaolin kungfu
04-28-2003, 10:18 PM
It's because he's brazilian, and likes to where pink nylon stockings in public.:p

Serpent
04-28-2003, 11:06 PM
Gene, be sure to let us know where and when the write up is available.

Serpent
04-28-2003, 11:11 PM
With a dayglo g-string.

shaolin kungfu
04-28-2003, 11:20 PM
That's the worst mental image i've ever gotten. Especially when you consider his weight.

Serpent
04-28-2003, 11:34 PM
He thinks he's beautiful.

shaolin kungfu
04-28-2003, 11:54 PM
I bet he does. All brazilians do.

Serpent
04-28-2003, 11:57 PM
Some of them are. Have you seen that beauty pageant they have there which is specifically a competition to find the best looking bum?

Now that's a fine example of a community coming together.

Hmmm... poor choice of words, perhaps.

shaolin kungfu
04-29-2003, 12:00 AM
Haven't seen that one. I hope it's female brazilians and not a bunch of xebs.

Serpent
04-29-2003, 12:04 AM
Naturally.

Hey, Xebby, you know what I'm talking about. Is there a website?

cha kuen
04-29-2003, 12:21 AM
=]

GeneChing
04-29-2003, 10:01 AM
Auditions are now being held for new got qi girls. PM me with your resumes and pictures of you at the last Carnival. :cool:

GeneChing
04-29-2003, 10:22 AM
My plan, assuming all goes well, is to start working on something for the ezine this week. I'm hoping to make our May 15th ezine update, but I'll be honest and say that this is a back burner project to the many fires that I have to put out as part of my daily routine. Keep an eye on the ezine and on the announcements at the top of the forum. And thanks for all your encouragement. :)

M_ArtsMargie
04-29-2003, 05:18 PM
***pm me too. The pix got to go through me too....j/p :p

Design Sifu
04-29-2003, 05:35 PM
We'll need some Brazillian beauty wareing the GOT QI shirt ONLY and maybe doing one of those upside down moves...

Yeah, a totally upside down move

M_ArtsMargie
04-29-2003, 05:58 PM
UR SO BAD!

Serpent
04-29-2003, 06:03 PM
It was me that brought it up. Let me help judge!

I'll help to support them while they're upside down.

Serpent
04-29-2003, 06:04 PM
I'm sure I can prop them up with something...

shaolin kungfu
04-29-2003, 08:45 PM
I wanna judge too!

Xebsball
04-29-2003, 10:02 PM
Serpent, the bums stuff, Playboy does one every year, i voted on the internet... gimme a sec i can remember who i voted on...
some chick from Santa Catarina, yes i remember... soft skin yet firm structure explicit in perfectly round shape oh yeah thats what you should look for my friend, listen and learn from my morbid wise voice.

You som*****es will get no brazilian wimmin, thats right you shall sufer
i get nada -> you get none :mad: PIZS ME OFF

Xebsball
04-29-2003, 10:09 PM
Defining *The Xebby* Theory

Part II (beta version)
(i know Part I comes first, but ill post it later)

Well, ever heard a man saying he is on "dry times" becouse its been long time since he dont get a woman?
*The Xebby* does not have "dry times", no sir
*He* has "desert"
AND ON THE DESERT ITS COLD AT NIGHT

Xebsball
04-29-2003, 10:20 PM
Defining *The Xebby* Theory

Part I

In old Greece, Sparta, City of Laconia
You the spartan fighters who were
very brief in the way they communicated
Less talk, more punch

im too lazy to make that whole thing rhyme at 1:20am sorry :(

Serpent
04-29-2003, 10:24 PM
Somebody, please, for the love of god, get Xebby a woman!

joedoe
04-29-2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Serpent
Somebody, please, for the love of god, get Xebby a woman!

Or even a female of some species :D

Serpent
04-29-2003, 10:34 PM
Even a greased hole in a side of pork.

The grease is optional.

joedoe
04-29-2003, 10:36 PM
A cold side of pork, or would you warm it up a bit first? What about some American Pie? :D

Serpent
04-29-2003, 10:37 PM
Once Xebby got going at it I reckon it would heat up pretty quick. Albeit briefly.

joedoe
04-29-2003, 10:47 PM
Yeah, I guess if you warmed it up in the microwave it would spend more time in the oven than it would being poked by Xebby :D

Serpent
04-29-2003, 10:51 PM
What do you think, Xebsball?

shaolin kungfu
04-29-2003, 10:51 PM
This has gone horribly wrong.:(

Serpent
04-29-2003, 10:57 PM
This is page two hundred and something. It went wrong around page 3!

shaolin kungfu
04-29-2003, 10:58 PM
It has gone even wronger.

Is that even a word?

Serpent
04-29-2003, 10:59 PM
It is now.

Wrongerer and wrongerer, that's where this thread goes.

joedoe
04-29-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by shaolin kungfu
It has gone even wronger.

Is that even a word?

Wrong? No - we are trying to solve Xebby's problems. All will be well again if Margie or eulerfan hop back on. All will be even better if eulerfan can post another pic of herself :p

Serpent
04-29-2003, 11:07 PM
Yeah, come on eulerfan.

It's about time.

How's that Snake Creeps Down coming along?

Design Sifu
04-30-2003, 10:22 AM
You som*****es will get no brazilian wimmin, thats right you shall sufer
i get nada -> you get none PIZS ME OFF

you've got it backwards... being from Brazil you would be in the best position to ...ah, represent KFM while recruiting Brazilian Beauties...

...it would be Win Win Win... for EVERYONE!!!

GeneChing
04-30-2003, 10:26 AM
euler - Yes, I do believe we are overdue for another pic

xebsball - Yes, go find us some brazilian got qi models, won't you?

serpent - pork? that ain't kosher...:rolleyes:

Chang Style Novice
04-30-2003, 02:22 PM
Level 5
-------------------------------------------------
The river Styx runs through this level of Hell, and in it are punished the wrathful and the gloomy. The former are forever lashing out at each other in anger, furious and naked, tearing each other piecemeal with their teeth. The latter are gurgling in the black mud, slothful and sullen, withdrawn from the world. Their lamentations bubble to the surface as they try to repeat a doleful hymn, though with unbroken words they cannot say it. Because you lived a cruel, vindictive and hateful life, you meet your fate in the Styx.
Take the Dante Inferno Hell Test (http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.html)

Although I can't reproduce the chart here, in addition to scoring "Extreme" in the category of Wrathful and Gloomy, I also scored "Extreme" for Heretical, and "Very High" for the categories of Gluttonous and Violent.

M_ArtsMargie
04-30-2003, 04:19 PM
I got level 8...whatever that means. I read it ...but i dont think that i wanted to comprehend it becuase i didn't get it.

So...how about them giants?

guohuen
04-30-2003, 04:40 PM
I think I broke the test. Good. I hate tests anyway.

Design Sifu
04-30-2003, 05:03 PM
It must mean you're NOT destined for hell...

the test didn't work for me neither!!!

So here.. trythis one (http://quizilla.com/users/cowgirlbebop319/quizzes/What%20Kind%20of%20Hipster%20Are%20You%3F/) it's Hipper... ;)

guohuen
04-30-2003, 05:28 PM
Oh my dear God! I'm "The Consummate Hipster" Think I'll go listen to some Miles.

Design Sifu
04-30-2003, 05:49 PM
have fun playing with your Nazi Coke-head robo-pig (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_775737.html)

:eek: :eek: :eek:

M_ArtsMargie
04-30-2003, 05:54 PM
That test was kind of bogus.

Serpent
04-30-2003, 05:56 PM
Margie, this whole thread is kinda bogus.

Gene, not kosher? LOL.

Chang Style Novice
04-30-2003, 06:13 PM
Margie -

Let me sum up for you - being assigned to the 8th Circle of Dante's Inferno means you've been a very naughty Margie.

As for why the link didn't work for some of you - I have no idea. It seems fine to me.

PS - turns out I'm a consummate hipster, too.

joedoe
04-30-2003, 06:24 PM
I got level 8 on the h3ll test. Dunno why, I didn't think I was that bad :D

guohuen
04-30-2003, 06:29 PM
Robot? That wasn't the original Coke bottle prototype?:D
Where's my Roland Kirk LP?

Chang Style Novice
04-30-2003, 06:32 PM
Sigh...I had to sell my big honking 11 CD Roland Kirk box set (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000047B7/qid=1051749113/sr=1-13/ref=sr_1_13/103-6253298-5581445?v=glance&s=music) 'cuz I'm so broke. Thankfully, I have a CD burner and got to keep the music (if not the packaging.)

edit -

HAHAHA! I love the recommendation "Buy this album with Camper Van Beethoven's Cigarettes and Carrot Juice - the Santa Cruz Years." Amazon has me so pegged.

Design Sifu
04-30-2003, 07:06 PM
any and varied sinners suffer eternally in the multi-leveled Malebolge, an ampitheatre-shapped pit of despair Wholly of stone and of an iron colour: Those guilty of fraudulence and malice; the seducers and pimps, who are whipped by horned demons; the hypocrites, who struggle to walk in lead-lined cloaks; the barraters, who are ducked in boiling pitch by demons known as the Malebranche. The simonists, wedged into stone holes, and whose feet are licked by flames, kick and writhe desperately. The magicians, diviners, fortune tellers, and panderers are all here, as are the thieves. Some wallow in human excrement. Serpents writhe and wrap around men, sometimes fusing into each other. Bodies are torn apart. When you arrive, you will want to put your hands over your ears because of the lamentations of the sinners here, who are afflicted with scabs like leprosy, and lay sick on the ground, furiously scratching their skin off with their nails. Indeed, justice divine doth smite them with its hammer.


Jeeze... sounds like some parties I've been too...

Serpent
04-30-2003, 07:22 PM
any and varied sinners suffer eternally in the multi-leveled Malebolge, an ampitheatre-shapped pit of despair Wholly of stone and of an iron colour: Those guilty of fraudulence and malice; the seducers and pimps, who are whipped by horned demons; the hypocrites, who struggle to walk in lead-lined cloaks; the barraters, who are ducked in boiling pitch by demons known as the Malebranche. The simonists, wedged into stone holes, and whose feet are licked by flames, kick and writhe desperately. The magicians, diviners, fortune tellers, and panderers are all here, as are the thieves. Some wallow in human excrement. Serpents writhe and wrap around men, sometimes fusing into each other. Bodies are torn apart. When you arrive, you will want to put your hands over your ears because of the lamentations of the sinners here, who are afflicted with scabs like leprosy, and lay sick on the ground, furiously scratching their skin off with their nails. Indeed, justice divine doth smite them with its hammer.


Hmmmm.....



:eek:

M_ArtsMargie
05-01-2003, 01:14 PM
joedoe***I didn't think I was bad eiher.

DS***oooo....ur bad! I knew it;) j/p

M_ArtsMargie
05-01-2003, 01:16 PM
hellooooooooooooo............miss me yet?

j/p

Hey Gene***those beads I think are good luck!:D

Shaolin-Do
05-01-2003, 01:25 PM
mmm....
Nothing like a nice long day of wallowing in excrement.

norther practitioner
05-01-2003, 01:28 PM
What, did you practice Shaolin Do all day?

:rolleyes:
:eek:



















:D

norther practitioner
05-01-2003, 01:45 PM
Where have you been?


Looking foward to more of your work too margie!

shaolin kungfu
05-01-2003, 01:47 PM
I'm the low fidelity all star hipster. I'm naturally cool.:cool:

Shaolin-Do
05-01-2003, 02:09 PM
no no, I was at the luby's buffet.

;)

No kung fu for a couple days. :(
Got stabbed right in the spine by a rusty nail while I was running data/voice cables in our new building.
:(

Design Sifu
05-01-2003, 02:37 PM
Shouldn't it be more like so...

:D
:eek:

norther practitioner
05-01-2003, 02:39 PM
:confused:












No idea what you are talking about....:D




Where all the wimmins at... I think Serpent scared them away...:cool:

Design Sifu
05-01-2003, 02:43 PM
Dude... don't get me started on some perverse Smilie/askii art...

or we'll ALLLLLL be sent to HELLL!!!

norther practitioner
05-01-2003, 02:49 PM
Really, someone as liberal as you....going to hell....


:D
:eek:

one of my favorites ;)

Design Sifu
05-01-2003, 05:24 PM
Really, someone as liberal as you....going to hell....

well it's a Buddhist hell...

Serpent
05-01-2003, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by norther practitioner
:confused:



No idea what you are talking about....:D




Where all the wimmins at... I think Serpent scared them away...:cool:

No, I didn't scare them away. We're all here together in my hot-tub. Margie is pouring more champagne and eulerfan is doing amazing things with soap-on-a-rope.

Xebsball
05-01-2003, 06:53 PM
Hell
aint a bad place
Hell
is from here to eternity

says Iron Maiden :cool:

Xebsball
05-01-2003, 07:01 PM
do not tempt a man that grew up listening to various kinds of metal (black/death/trash... etc), he will keep on posting about his favourite hell forever

Go to hell
I sold my soul so when my body goes cold I'll
Go straight to hell

Go to hell
Wont you been told?
I sold my soul
Go straight to hell

thats Carcass for you kids btw

GeneChing
05-01-2003, 07:01 PM
They are fresh from Shaolin Temple, full of qi for our number 1 got qi girl. I hear they even brought Leslie some luck gambling too. Shaolin beads, very powerful... :cool:

Xebsball
05-01-2003, 07:05 PM
tomorrow got test on estatistics
its cool because someone managed to steal a copy
from the teacher last week, thats right

a wimmin from my class did it, sneaky one
wimmin = debil

of course i make myself a copy too, think im stupid beatch
of course all of us will be screwed if he finds out theres a copy missing from his stuff

Serpent
05-01-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Xebsball
a wimmin from my class did it, sneaky one
wimmin = debil


LOL

:D

Serpent
05-01-2003, 07:12 PM
Two nuns sitting in the bath together (saving water, I assume).

One nun is leaning back, smiling beatifically. The other is feeling around under the water.

The one feeling around says, "Sister Mary, where's the soap?"

Sister Mary looks up smiling and replies, "I know it does, but it feels so good!"

joedoe
05-01-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Xebsball
tomorrow got test on estatistics
its cool because someone managed to steal a copy
from the teacher last week, thats right

a wimmin from my class did it, sneaky one
wimmin = debil

of course i make myself a copy too, think im stupid beatch
of course all of us will be screwed if he finds out theres a copy missing from his stuff

For some reason, this reminds me of the quote "If she is doing it with everyone, she is a s|ut. If she is doing it with everyone except you, she is a b!tch". :D :D

Serpent
05-01-2003, 07:21 PM
Which reminds me of:

Man that has many partners = Player.

Woman that has many partners = ****.

;)

rubthebuddha
05-02-2003, 12:40 AM
maybe that's why women should just stay home. or maybe this is why: where puppies come from (http://www.collegehumor.com/?image_id=10315&return=pictures).

shaolin kungfu
05-02-2003, 12:44 AM
:D

It's funny cause it's true!

MasterKiller
05-02-2003, 08:02 AM
Woman that has many partners = ****.

Unless she's a lipstick lesbian, in which case she is a real lady.

:D

M_ArtsMargie
05-02-2003, 04:04 PM
lesbians......isn't that every guys fantasy. I mean have two women?

You guys should come to SF to see that freaky stuff! Gene can tell you about the parties, I'm sure.;)

Design Sifu
05-02-2003, 05:14 PM
Every guy that comes to S.F. is either a lesbian or a ****... ;)

TaoBoy
05-03-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by M_ArtsMargie
lesbians......isn't that every guys fantasy. I mean have two women?

Two women!?? Sure, as long as they're paying me more attention than each other. :D

Xebsball
05-03-2003, 09:17 AM
With so much drama in the L-B-C
It's kinda hard bein Snoop D-O-double-G
But I, somehow, some way
Keep comin up with funky ass **** like every single day
May I, kick a little something for the G's (yeah)
and, make a few ends as (yeah!) I breeze, through
Two in the mornin and the party's still jumpin
cause my momma ain't home
I got *****es in the living room gettin it on
and, they ain't leavin til six in the mornin (six in the mornin)
So what you wanna do, sheeeit
I got a pocket full of rubbers and my homeboys do too
So turn off the lights and close the doors
But (but what) we don't love them hoes, yeah!
So we gonna smoke a ounce to this
G's up, hoes down, while you mother****as bounce to this

Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]
Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]

Now, that, I got me some Seagram's gin
Everybody got they cups, but they ain't chipped in
Now this types of ****, happens all the time
You got to get yours but fool I gotta get mine
Everything is fine when you listenin to the D-O-G
I got the cultivating music that be captivating he
who listens, to the words that I speak
As I take me a drink to the middle of the street
and get to mackin to this ***** named Sadie (Sadie?)
She used to be the homeboy's lady (Oh, that *****)
Eighty degrees, when I tell that ***** please
Raise up off these N-U-T's, cause you gets none of these
At ease, as I mob with the Dogg Pound, feel the breeze
BEATCH, I'm just

Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]
Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]

Later on that day
My homey Dr. Dre came through with a gang of Tanqueray
And a fat ass J, of some bubonic chronic that made me choke
****, this ain't no joke
I had to back up off of it and sit my cup down
Tanqueray and chronic, yeah I'm ****ed up now
But it ain't no stoppin, I'm still poppin
Dre got some *****es from the city of Compton
To serve me, not with a cherry on top
Cause when I bust my nut, I'm raisin up off the cot
Don't get upset girl, that's just how it goes
I don't love you hoes, I'm out the do'
And I'll be

Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]

Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
BEATCHHH [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]
Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
BEATCHHH [with my mind on my money and my money on my mind]

Former castleva
05-03-2003, 10:07 AM
What´s up with your grammar,lately?
Xebs,

Xebsball
05-04-2003, 03:59 PM
There are times when you get suckered in
by drugs and alchohol and sex with women, mmkay
But it's when you do these things too much
That you've become an addict and must get back in touch

You can do it, it's all up to you, mmkay
With a little plan you can change your life today
You don't have to spend your life addicted to smack
Homeless on the streets giving handjobs for crack
Follow my plan and very soon you will say: it's easy mmkay

Step 1: Instead of ass say buns, like "kiss my buns" or "you're a buns hole"
Step 2: Instead of **** say poo, as in "bull poo", "poo head" and this "poo is cold"
Step 3: With ***** drop the T cuz bich is latin for generosity
Step 4: Don't say **** any more
cuz **** is the worst word that you can say
So just use the word "mmkay"!!!

We can do it it's all up to us, mmkay (mmkay)
With a little plan we can change our lives today (you can change it today)
We don't have to spend our lives shootin up in the trash
Homeless on the streets giving handjobs for cash
Follow this plan and very soon you will say:
It's easy mmkay!!

Step 1: Instead of ass say buns, like "kiss my buns" or "you're a buns hole"
Step 2: Instead of **** say poo, as in "bull poo", "poo head" and this "poo is cold"
Step 3: With ***** drop the T cuz bich is latin for generosity
Step 4: Don't say **** any more
cuz **** is the worst word that you can say
**** is the worst word that you can say
We shouldn't say **** ****, we shouldn't say **** **** NOOOOOO!!!
You're cured, you can go!

We don't have to spend our lives shootin up in the trash
Homeless on the streets giving handjobs for cash
Follow this plan and very soon you will saaay:
Its easy mmkay!
It's easy mmkay!
It's easy mmkay!
It's easy mmkay!
It's easy mmkaaaaaaaayy
It's easy mm
It's easy mm
It's easy mm
It's easy mmkaaaay

Mmkay

shaolin kungfu
05-04-2003, 09:20 PM
Mr mackey is cool.

norther practitioner
05-05-2003, 10:26 AM
Other than the time I choked my self out with my beads... they have been pretty good luck.:D

GeneChing
05-05-2003, 10:39 AM
A buddy of mine brought back a bottle from the UK and we sampled it over the weekend. As most of you know, absinthe is illegal in the U.S. - you can get it over the net - or get it past customs if you can convince them that you are just a collector and have no intention of drinking it. Well, I 'fess up. I'm a law breaker.

Absinthe hits pretty hard with the first shot. It's a harsh taste, laden with anise, and typically pour over suger so you cut it with 4/5 parts water. There is a distinct flavor that all the sugar, water and anise attempts to conceal. It looks like aftershave, and probably doesn't taste to different. With it comes a distinct buzz beyond the alcohol, not unlike the sensation of good tequila, but uniquely its own. It's definately an up - stimulating - which is bad becuae it makes you drink more, yet at the same time, it has a numbing effect on the tongue and your limbs feel pretty light and airy. After three shots, we were all buzzing like crazy. Then the other shoe dropped. One of my buddies drove home and we were all too buzzed to stop him. He was busted for a DUI a few blocks from his home. A few hours later I was projectile vomiting all over my buddies yard and spent the next morning dry heaving every hour on the hour for about five hours. I'm still re-hydrating.

So maybe for me, I should heed the law and avoid absinthe. At least I didn't Van Gogh my ear.


P.S. Margie, what would I know about lesbian parties? Are you hinting at something?

Design Sifu
05-05-2003, 01:25 PM
There are a few pages devoted to the culture of absinthe
drinking in an essay on Rimbaud by William Ober in his book _Bottoms
Up!_ (a rather unusual book, check it out). Alexis Lichine mentions it
in his books on spirits. Wormwood and its chemical constituents are well
documented in Mrs. Grieve's _Herbal_ (a very good source book on herbs;
I have found that British sources tend to be much more thorough and
grounded in research than American ones, which tend to rely on hand me
down tales and hearsay).

True absinthe (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/absinthe/absinthe_basics.shtml) was marked by its intense green color (which
usually came from herbs other than wormwood, which is a gray-green at
best). This lead to cases in which the drink was adulterated with copper
salts, doubtless to the consumers detriment. The best absinthe contained
70-80% alcohol, which in itself makes a case for why it might be a
dangerous drink. Its psychoactive effects are the result of both a high alcohol content and the presence of thujone (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/absinthe/absinthe_info3.shtml), the primary active ingredient inwormwood. (http://www.erowid.org/plants/wormwood/wormwood.shtml),.
The 1911 edition of the Britannica remarks, "There is some
reason to believe that excessive absinthe-drinking leads to effects
which are specifically worse than those associated with over-indulgence
in other forms of alcohol."

norther practitioner
05-05-2003, 01:36 PM
I think Xebs has been drinking too much of that absinthe

Xebsball
05-05-2003, 02:53 PM
whoever edited my stuff: dont do that again, im not patient with censors, i just leave at once OR if you want to speed up the progress you can ban me.
like the lil kicks dont know what **** is, they hear it on the streets, they hear it from other kids at school, everwhere, only way they dont is if you make them deaf, then they are protected from the profane sounds of the world... mom should have known that when she put me in school

norther praticioner: :D i wish

GeneChing
05-05-2003, 03:11 PM
Why do you think those beads are lucky now. Did you get lucky?

Serpent
05-05-2003, 05:42 PM
So, Gene, now you understand that the law is there to protec you and anything the law says must be obeyed.

Right?

guohuen
05-06-2003, 09:37 AM
So the crux of this is that the impressionist didn't have worms?

M_ArtsMargie
05-06-2003, 10:08 AM
hello everyone! It's been awhile since I last posted.

Are we arguing in here?

Is everything ok?

:( :p :D :cool: :) :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :o

M_ArtsMargie
05-06-2003, 10:10 AM
Everytime I wear those beads, I don't have drama. Everything goes by smoothly. I should have worn them today. Dang!

MasterKiller
05-06-2003, 10:12 AM
like the lil kicks dont know what **** is, they hear it on the streets, they hear it from other kids at school, everwhere, only way they dont is if you make them deaf, then they are protected from the profane sounds of the world... mom should have known that when she put me in school

Xebby should read 'Catcher in the Rye' sometime.

GeneChing
05-06-2003, 10:25 AM
Don't be a tease. Define drama.

GeneChing
05-06-2003, 10:45 AM
Mk - good recommendation for anyone...

Mam - Hard to say if we're arguing or just showing affection towards each other. Martial artists are like that. So are the members of this forum :eek:

Gh - I guess not, but according to legend some developed green eyes. Some theorize that the greening of the eyes can be seen in Van Gogh's self portraits, and additionally that the greening drove up his receptiveness to yellow, thus the excessive use of yellow in some of his pieces like Sunflowers as well as the weird auras seen in his later works. What some would sacrifice for art...

Sp - You know it. Yessir.

Xb - Do you want to be banned?

Np - Interesting theory. I've been considerably more irritable since the experience.

Ds - If you're going to quote old books, try the bible for wormwood. ;)

Xebsball
05-06-2003, 10:59 AM
lol i got typing problems, where it says "kicks" please read "kids", but you know its praticly same thing so you could have guessed that.

who is "Catcher something"?

Gene,
Do you want to ban me?

What im saying is:
a castrated dog cant effectively hump anything
castrate me and ill leave

norther practitioner
05-06-2003, 11:12 AM
Whos causing you drama Margie... point 'em out... I'll take care of it.... or we could just have Gene mediate the situation...:D

Design Sifu
05-06-2003, 04:48 PM
What im saying is:
a castrated dog cant effectively hump anything
castrate me and ill leave

Who do you want to hump!?!?!?

keep in mind that any moderator can at their discretion delete any potentially "offensive" words or the like...

Anyone with half a brain is going to know what F_ck means...

those ...er, kicks, that don't then shouldn't...

Don't worry so much about it....

worry more about those Brazilian Beauties you're going to go out and collect this Carnaval... :p

Serpent
05-06-2003, 07:39 PM
Yeah, calm yourself Padawan and link up some pics of the Brazilian Ass-Parade we talked about before.

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 07:47 AM
Xebby,

This book is all about a depressed boy who thinks children are the purest thing on earth, until he actually meets some:

Catcher in the Rye (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0316769487/qid=1052315104/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-4107317-2829665?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Just don't go out and shoot a Beatle after you read it.

M_ArtsMargie
05-07-2003, 09:59 AM
that is a good book

Have you read the Great Gasby....that one is good too.

M_ArtsMargie
05-07-2003, 10:06 AM
Gene***I'm not teasing. I find that when I wear the beads, My family is less arguative(if that is a word). Mainly the drama part is with the guys...becuase most of the guys I am friends with want more...and then they get mad at me if I dont call. Drama being my friends...or supposingly my friends....dont lecture me. Maybe I just need new friends period. Once I got thos power beads, I changed my phone number...and no drama now. I feel bad that I cutt everyone off...but they were not being cool. So now...it's all better.;) Does that make sense?

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 10:10 AM
Gatsby blows. I don't like Fitzgerald.

I prefer Hemingway's bottom-of-the-barrell individuals to Fitzgerald's fondness for the elite.

The Sun Also Rises is by far my favorite novel.

On the Road weighs in at No. 2.

:)

GeneChing
05-07-2003, 10:15 AM
Whadaya say NP? Do you want more from Margie too?

I'm glad the beads have brought you some peace. Never underestimate the power of Shaolin Temple, even with beads.

norther practitioner
05-07-2003, 10:25 AM
Margie,
I must say plutonic relationships can often be harder than ones with significant others. It just happens, trust me on this. I've gotten myself into oodles of trouble around situations of the sort. Just be open and honest, it might hurt a friend or two, but it is much better in the long run. I've been hurt a few times when things would go to a certain extent, and then get backtracked.

Oh, and the beads are always money.

guohuen
05-07-2003, 10:35 AM
I couldn't relate to fitzgerald at all. Hemmingway and Steinbeck did it for me as a kid. I read the grapes of wrath four times before I was in the sixth grade. I can't even remember how many times I read each Mark Twain book.:D

GeneChing
05-07-2003, 11:02 AM
Right now, I'm about half way through Dream of the Red Chamber (aka Story of the Stone.) It's one of the monster Chinese classics that you'd know about if you know the first thing about Chinese culture, but it's impossible to explain if you don't. Anyway, it's engaging if you like 2500 page-turners - sort of a Buddhist/Taoist/Confucian take on Jane Austin.

XB- I don't particularly want to ban you, but you brought it up. I figure if you're really upset, just stop logging on. When anyone says
if you want to speed up the progress you can ban me. I always ask if their serious. Are you serious?

DS- REV 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

SP- BAP for short

MK- Are there any Beatles left worth shooting? I loved ON the Road too. :cool:

MAM- Didn't you recommend GG before here?

GH- Twain rocks, once you get past Tom Sawyer.

Chang Style Novice
05-07-2003, 11:02 AM
Clash of the Tightest! (http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/03_03/03-03-clash-of-tightest.htm) Jackie Gleason and Ernest Hemingway Drinking Contest.

William Faulkner isn't in this round, but follow the links at the bottom of the page to read his contests with Babe Ruth and Humphrey Bogart.

Oops, you guys were talking about Fitzgerald, not Faulkner. Screw that lightweight!:D

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 11:06 AM
Are there any Beatles left worth shooting?

Paul McCartney doesn't seem to want to go gently into that rock-n-roll goodnight.

He could use some help.
;)

Chang Style Novice
05-07-2003, 11:12 AM
Actually, it's all messed up - the Beatles that should be dead are alive, and vice versa.

What a world!

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 11:16 AM
Be patient. Time has a way of killing all those who deserve it.

KC Elbows
05-07-2003, 11:24 AM
I like Fitzgerald too. Hemmingway I've only started to like more recently, but Fitgerald I've always liked. I can't really read an author based on who they're writing about. I'm a style junky. It makes no difference to me that Hemingway is writing about bottom of the barrel sorts and Fitzgerald is writing about the so-called elite, because they're not really those people, they're just characters, and so it's the way the writer tricks me into thinking of those characters as those things that I get lured in by.

Everyone's hating Paul. John liked the superstar thing too, he probably would have overstayed his hipness had he lived to. George was the only one modest enough to move on, and Ringo never really pretended he was anything but Ringo, didn't he himself say "I'm famous for being famous"?

Paul haters.:D

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 11:27 AM
It makes no difference to me that Hemingway is writing about bottom of the barrel sorts and Fitzgerald is writing about the so-called elite, because they're not really those people, they're just characters, and so it's the way the writer tricks me into thinking of those characters as those things that I get lured in by.

I can't relate to rich people who drink all the time and screw each other because I'm not rich.

I can relate to poor people who drink all the time and screw each other, though.

KC Elbows
05-07-2003, 11:29 AM
So you've never screwed a rich girl?

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 11:33 AM
I'm not rich, so I don't like to read stories about rich guys who screw rich girls, or poor guys who get rich to screw rich girls.

Now, if Fitzgerald woulda wrote something about a poor guy who screws rich girls without having to do anything to hide the fact that he is poor, I'd own a copy of it.

KC Elbows
05-07-2003, 11:41 AM
What if you got rich, would you then no longer read about poor guys screwing rich girls, or would you then read about rich guys screwing rich girls, AND poor guys screwing rich girls, and poor guys screwing poor girls?

I may have found a niche market for my latest novel, Everybody Screws.:D

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 11:48 AM
If I got rich, I would still read about poor guys screwing rich girls out of nostalgia.

More than likely, I would just read about rich guys screwing hot, poor girls. They would be very appreciative of the attention of a rich man, and would reciprocate in ways rich girls wouldn't know how. Therefore, the books are probably very interesting.

KC Elbows
05-07-2003, 11:54 AM
What about poor girls who get rich?

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 11:56 AM
Poor girls who get rich probably get that way by reciprocating the affections of a rich man in ways that rich girls don't know how to, all the while waiting around for sed rich man to die.

They aren't to be trusted.

KC Elbows
05-07-2003, 12:01 PM
I'm rather surprised you limited the ways women get rich to just gold digging, and completely forgot investing money from streetwalking. And I thought you were an enlightened man like myself.

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 12:10 PM
Hookers usually invest their money in crack, which is why they are on the street in the first place.

However, I find stories about hookers to be fascinating. Leaving Las Vegas is an awesome book, with depth and feeling. After reading it, I wished I could fall in love with a hooker. :(

I could look past the whole 'you're a w hore' thing, but she wouldn't be able to feed me like a rich girl, so it probably wouldn't work out.

FatherDog
05-07-2003, 12:59 PM
I enjoyed reading the Great Gatsby. I've never enjoyed Hemingway's stuff, and the fact that he's considered a great writer never fails to baffle me.

Clemens, on the gripping hand, was a genius.

MasterKiller
05-07-2003, 01:03 PM
Hemigway is great because The Sun Also Rises really introduced the world to fiction as we are still reading it. It's the first example of a modern novel.

Sure, most of his stuff is crap, but what artists doesn't have a similar situation. A great artist probably produces 90% crap...but that other 10% can change the world.

Serpent
05-07-2003, 06:19 PM
What about a poor girl screwing a rich guy and through some twist of fate the girl becomes rich but the guy becomes poor.

Would she still be screwing him?

Would you still be reading about it?

shaolin kungfu
05-07-2003, 07:26 PM
I prefer to watch people screwing rather than read about it.

MasterKiller
05-08-2003, 07:39 AM
What about a poor girl screwing a rich guy and through some twist of fate the girl becomes rich but the guy becomes poor.

Would she still be screwing him?

Would you still be reading about it?

**angels sing**

Not only would I read it, but I think it would possibly win the Nobel Prize for literature.


I prefer to watch people screwing rather than read about it.

Troglodyte.

M_ArtsMargie
05-08-2003, 10:05 AM
what about reading margie getting rich! yea!
I wish!

Chang Style Novice
05-08-2003, 12:01 PM
Here is the text to my (hastily written) term paper on comics and neo-expressionism.

Neo-expressionism as a movement in painting began to achieve prominence in the late 70s (although some would classify earlier artists, especially Bacon as neo-expressionists as well.) The defining qualities of neo-expressionism are generally considered to be a renewed interest in figuration and representation as a reaction against abstract and non-objective art, distortion of the figure, textural brushwork, and a heroic scale. The underground comics movement is generally considered to have originated with the publication of God Nose in 1964 by Jack Jackson using the pen name Jaxon (although some would argue that earlier publications such as the satirical magazine Mad edited by William Gaines, and the comic strip
Krazy Kat by George Herriman are important progenitors.) The defining qualities of comics are the use of juxtaposed images to create a visual narrative and the use of industrial reproduction to
reach a mass audience. Within comics, underground comics are defined economically by the presumption of a sub- or counter-cultural audience, and distribution that matches the habits of that audience. Underground comics are defined stylistically by the lack of a ‘house style’ wherein the artists individual expression is subsumed to the need for consistency and by writing that deals with the concerns of the sub- or counter-cultural audience that is mentioned above (and which the artist and writer – usually the same person – tend to consider peers rather than just a market.) Comics has been considered, in the United States at
least, as a black sheep cousin to art even though throughout the twentieth century fine artists have expressed appreciation for various manifestations of the form and appropriation of the form’s imagery. For example, Picasso’s love of Krazy Kat and Roy
Liechtenstein’s use of panels by Jack Kirby. Therefore, it is clear that despite a lack of widespread respect for comics, fine art and comics have an interdependent history that links them. I
believe that by keeping figuration paired with distortion and expressive visual strategies (as well as counter-cultural concerns) the underground comics movement of the 1960s and early 1970s laid groundwork for the neo-expressionists of the late 1970s and
1980s. Furthermore, I believe that once neo-expressionism and underground comics were established, they both influenced the second wave of underground comics (also called “The Small Press
Explosion”) of the mid 1980s and 1990s, when the humorous and satirical tone of early undergrounds was joined by a more somber and literary form of expression.
I stated above that the usually agreed upon origin of Underground Comix (to use a spelling intended to separate the counter-cultural material from that aimed at a youth audience) is Jack Jaxon’s God Nose of 1964. While this is true, the most influential figure in the first wave of Comix is undoubtedly Robert Crumb, who founded Zap! Comix in San Francisco in 1968. Zap! Comix featured short vignettes, absurd situations, and psychedelic art. It was sold in head shops and other hippie hangouts, and soon brought Crumb such fame (and notoriety) that he was commissioned to create album covers for popular rock bands, such as Big Brother and the Holding Company’s Cheap Thrills and Janis Joplin’s I Got Dem Ol’ Kosmic Blues Again Mama. In the wake of the success of Zap! Comix, many imitators popped up from all over the map, among the best known being
Bijou Funnies (various, edited by Jay Lynch, 1968) Wonder Warthog (Gilbert Shelton, 1973), and Zippy the Pinhead (Bill Griffith, 1970.) What all these strips and books had in common were heavy references to pop culture, counter-cultural and psychedelic images and politics, and biting satirical humor. Even mainstream publishers of kid’s comics like Marvel took notice and
began to incorporate the individualistic and unconventional (for the medium) styles and themes into their product lines in such titles as Steve Gerber’s 1976 Howard the Duck.
Examples of cartoon-like imagery abound in the work of various neo-expressionists, most notably in the ‘bubble’ figures of Keith Haring, which in addition to their use of dynamic simplicity of design show the influence of mechanical reproduction techniques by their monochromaticism (an inevitable result of using inexpensive black and white printing.) Other artists who use the highly delineated, short strokes and simplified color schemes native to cartoons and comics include Jean-Michel Basquiat, Georg Baselitz and Francesco Clemente. Although they are more
contemporary with the first wave of Underground Comix, I think it is arguable that Peter Saul and Philip Guston are also progenitors of neo-expressionism and certainly their work visually resembles
neo-expressionism and the underground Comix. Aside from the issue of audience the chief differences in the methods of the first wave underground cartoonists and the neo-expressionists are in scale, surface, tone and narrative. I maintain that these differences aside, the visual impact of the two styles is very
similar, and perhaps those differences are negligible. Neo-expressionists, as mentioned before, tend to created on a very large scale, often approaching the heroic. This permits them to create strokes in a very physical, gestural fashion, which results in the heavily textured surfaces which often have elements of
collage, such as in the work of Schnabel and Basquiat. Neo-expressionists also work in a context that caters to the gallery and museum market environment, which requires that works be wholly contained within a single frame or moment of visual impact. By contrast, underground cartoonists use the same strategies of distortion, gesture, visual simplification, and
appropriation to create what is in the industry called ‘original art’ but which is never seen in that form by the audience it is made for. Readers of underground comix inevitably see scaled-down mechanical reproductions of the artists work, so the scale is
hand-sized, the images separated by ‘gutters’ (the spaces between panels) divided into pages, and bound into a booklet in the case of books, or printed as one element on a page in the case of strips. When press-based reproduction is the medium for
distribution of the image, large scales and complex surfaces become not merely irrelevant, but a hindrance to the process. The remaining difference between neo-expressionists and the first wave of the underground comix artists is content. Neo-expressionists followed the example of their forebears, the 19th century expressionists by creating figural representations of mental and emotional states. The intention of a neo-expressionist is to evoke these thoughts and emotions in a viewer by means f subject matter, color, texture and composition.
Narrative concerns are dealt with in a single panel, wth no need for examining more than one section of the work to explore the story, and as a consequence, narratives (where they exist in neo-expressionism) are simple to the point of atomism. Underground comix artists, by contrast, saw themselves as entertainers at least as much as artists, and therefore made it their mission to amuse and divert their readers as often as they did to move them emotionally or intellectually. Distortion therefore tended toward the humorous rather than the disturbing, although in such works as Robert Crumb’s Stoned Again, both apply. Narrative in comics is more complex than in single-panel works, since the use of multiple panels enables long sequences of events to be shown. As a result of these two elements to the style, underground comix often evoke the feeling of a comedic short film by a surrealist director (Andre Breton making Mickey
Mouse shorts?)

Chang Style Novice
05-08-2003, 12:02 PM
The streams of neo-expressionism and underground comics began to unite fairly early, I would say first of all in Justin Green’s 1972 piece Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary, an autobiographical account of the author’s teenage battle with schizophrenia and a strict Roman Catholic upbringing. However, it wasn’t until Art Spiegelman began publishing the anthology
RAW in 1980 that neo-expressionism’s serious tone began to be a significant element in the comix movement. RAW is most famous for providing a place for Spiegelman to serialize his long piece Maus, an account of his father’s experiences in Poland under
the Nazis with characters drawn as mice, cats, pigs, and so on depending on their nationality, a kind of heavy-handed symbolism closely matches that demonstrated by Eric Fischl and especially Georg Baselitz. Perhaps even more significant, however, was the fact that RAW helped introduce Dan Clowes and Chris Ware. In fact, I would like to devote the rest of this essay to the works of three artists whose work in the late 1980s and 1990s I believe to be an apotheosis of the neo-expressionist style in underground comics. Clowes and Ware are two of those artists, the other is Jim Woodring. All three are closely associated by virtue of their association with the publisher Fantagraphics Books. It is through Fantagraphics that Clowes has created his magazines Lloyd Llewellen and Eightball; Ware has done the same with his Acme Novelty Library and Jimmy Corrigan, and Woodring has published Jim and Frank.
Dan Clowes is the oldest and probably the best known of the trio, since his comics novella Ghost World (originally serialized in Eightball) has become a cult hit as a motion picture. Ghost World is fairly typical of Clowes’ work, dealing as it does with an
increasingly strained friendship between two inseparable teenage girls (the movie takes considerable liberties with the plot) who have just graduated from high school and are attempting to decide on a future for themselves. The art is
unusually sedate, in black and white line drawings with a light blue highlight that suggests the glow of a television. There is very little distortion of bodies or other objects except when characters are dreaming. The characters of Enid and Rebecca sit in constant judgment of the world around them, almost all
of which is found wanting. Enid in particular, like many of Clowes’ creations, is ‘too cool for school,’ and too self-absorbed to find pleasure in anything but her own private obsessions. Other characters from Clowes who fit this description include the nameless narrators of MCMLXVI, Blue Italian ****, and Caricature. For all but the narrator of Blue Italian ****, their obsessions explicitly betray them and they become incapable of enjoying anything at all. This slide into complete alienation is not only a recurrent theme in Clowes’ work, but probably the overarching
theme of his entire career. Ghost World is the most naturalistically drawn of Clowes’ major works, probably because it is where he has the most sympathy for his characters and doesn’t wish to turn them into grotesques. Characters like Dan Pussey (from the novella Pussey!) and the narrator of MCMLXVI are shown with every physical flaw magnified to the point of
repulsion, which reflect their unhappy, distorted personalities.
Chris Ware is the most experimental of the three, using the multi-panel possibilities of the comics medium to stretch and distort time and space, blur the distinction between actual events and the fantasies of an unreliable narrator, create characters that are fantastic or even mythological in their physical traits, and sometimes eliminate written dialog completely in favor of a set of visual symbols (heart, skull, cloud, dagger, light bulb, and so on.) There are two equally fascinating sections of Ware’s work, the first of which was developed in the comics he drew for the Daily Texan, the student newspaper of the University of Texan, when he was an undergraduate. A great many of these have been collected in the early issues of The Acme Novelty Library. This set of work revolves around the misfortunes of a variety of cartoon style characters, Quimby the Mouse (sometimes the conjoined twin Quimbies the Mouse), Potato Guy (a small lumpen creature who often loses his eyeballs), Rocket Sam (a robot) and Big Tex. In these comics, the individual characters rarely interact with anyone else, as we see them struggle with their physical deformities and utter lack of connection to the world around them. The characters of Quimby(ies) the Mouse and Potato Guy are tiny and drawn dozens of times apiece on a vast page. They occupy seemingly deserted buildings and cities, further emphasizing their isolation. All of their misadventures end in tragedy. Quimby is logorrheaic and never quits talking to himself in an effort. Quimbies and Potato Guy are apparently incapable of using words and only communicate with gesture, facial expression and the kind of visual outburst I described before, which appear in speech balloons for Quimbies and disembodied above the head of Potato Guy. Rocket Sam and Big Tex are drawn larger and occupy meticulously rendered naturalistic spaces, though both are as isolated from any company as Quimby and Potato Guy. Rocket Sam is silent and (as a robot) lacks facial expression. Big Tex is simply an aged cowhand with no contact with anyone but his horse. The second stream of Ware’s work is in the serialize Jimmy Corrigan (subtitled The Smartest Kid on Earth.) Jimmy is shown variously as a child in a broken home engaging in power-trip fantasies, and a painfully shy and developmentally arrested adult with a dead end job and ball busting mother and who still engages in compulsive fantasizing. Jimmy is not the only inhabitant of his world (unlike Quimby et al) but all other the other
characters he encounters are off-panel, or at least their faces are, until he meets his long lost father and the sister he never knew he had. Ware favors either a black and white or extremely muted color scheme for almost all of his work, and frames
everything within ornate, art-deco influenced pages that simultaneously delight the eye with their meticulous curlicues and filigrees while they serve to freeze the action within the page and create an emotional distance between the reader and the
characters.

Chang Style Novice
05-08-2003, 12:03 PM
Jim Woodring also makes use of wordless pantomimed action in his Frank pieces, but while Ware appears to be attempting to evoke silent films and animated cartoons, Woodring will sometimes use brilliantly vibrant color to create a supersaturated world where anything could (and does) spring to life at any time. The character of Frank itself is an homage to Disney and Warner Brothers type cartoon characters – he appears to be an anthropomorphized rodent. He walks upright and wears white shoes and gloves with four fingers, his body is purplish, his eyes simple circles-and-dots, and he has bucked teeth and a tail. Other mute creatures live in his peculiar world, such as Manhog ( a naked, venal, pitiful presence), Whim (a devilish creature with a head shaped like a crescent moon), the Jerry Chickens (a trio of birds shaped respectively like a cone, sphere and cube,) Pupshaw (Frank’s pet and protector) and Pushpaw (Pupshaw’s feral mate), and Frank’s Real Paw (a version of Frank who walks on all fours and gives him good advice) and his counterpart Frank’s Faux Paw (who looks identical to Frank’s Real Paw but is sent by Whim to lead Frank astray.) This cast of creatures enacts silent dramas that have mysterious resonances for the reader, where the recurrent theme is apparently the struggle for Frank’s soul. Strange places spontaneously change appearance and weather, unidentifiable devices are used to perform achieve incomprehensible accomplishments, characters transform in unpredictable ways and trade roles without explanation. While
generally Frank seems to be a foolish innocent in danger of temptation by weakness or evil, he is capable of acts of terrible cruelty and retribution. Everything in Frank’s world is drawn or painted (the stories are sometimes created in pen and ink and
sometimes in watercolor) with equal liveliness – plants, buildings, furniture, landscape, sky and so on seem as if they could come to life any moment and act as friend or foe. In fact, often they do. Jim Woodring has said in interviews and his own writings
that he doesn’t consider himself to create the Frank Stories, but rather that they are ‘received transmissions’ which he relates to the reader. What this apparently means is that he transcribes them from his dreams and spontaneous fantasies, but that he
never ‘works’ on them or subjects them to an editing process. As a side effect of such an uncontrolled process, he claims that he often doesn’t understand them himself as he endeavors to put them on paper, and that frequently he will recognize embarrassing personal revelations have been made in his stories
after they have been published or gone to press and it is too late to regretfully withdraw them from circulation. Whether this is true or PR-style self-mythologizing I cannot say, but I do know that Woodring’s work gets under my skin like no-one else’s,
and I find myself hypnotized by his forms and colors while I squirm uncomfortably at the stories that transfix my attention.
To summarize, while Guston, Bacon, and Saul and their cohort were reviving figuration and representation and subjecting them to expressionist distortions in the 1960s and 1970s, Robert Crumb, Jack Jackson, Gilbert Shelton and their cohort were doing the same to comedic rather than dramatic effect in the medium of comics. In the 1980s and 1990s, both groups influenced a second generation of cartoonists who used the mass-medium possibilities of mechanical reproduction and the counter-cultural market pioneered by the first wave of underground comix to explore their themes of alienation and inner conflict in a more somber and literary fashion.

FatherDog
05-08-2003, 01:53 PM
That was insightful, and obviously well-researched (Although I don't know neo-expressionism that well, I recognized you hitting the big names from the other side.) Good job, CSN.

MasterKiller
05-08-2003, 01:57 PM
Good stuff, indeed.

But you should aviod using "I" in a critical essay. Obviously, you think these things because you are writing about them. Referring to yourself is a fallacy because it leads to subjectivism and can really undermine a well-researched discussion.

Chang Style Novice
05-08-2003, 02:03 PM
Thanks, y'all.

Like I said, MK, it was hastily written. I really should have included more supporting citations, etc. as well.

On another note, here's a really cute photo. (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030507/mdf271648.jpg)

M_ArtsMargie
05-08-2003, 04:50 PM
how cute....that pix that is

So where's the party at this weekend? Just playingTHIS ONE (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/kf10yearanni1.html)

Xebsball
05-08-2003, 04:57 PM
tis... platonic instead o plutonic, cos of that greek dude you know

Margie, your PM box thang is full so i cant send you no nuthin

M_ArtsMargie
05-08-2003, 05:09 PM
xebsball***Sorry, i am emptying it now.

hehehe

NP** *yea....Well..I got my number changed, and thank god I haven't ran into any of them. I know that sounds bad...but seriously...whos want people hanging around, after you changed your number, nagging you for your new one. Know what I mean...or am I off topic again?

norther practitioner
05-08-2003, 07:30 PM
or am I off topic again?

Here, never........



Hey, we all need a change sometimes.... mine came when I move 1700 miles away from where I grew up and went to college... I'm lucky too, two of my best friends moved out here with me, and the others it was real easy to "lose contact" with when I moved out here.

FatherDog
05-08-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
On another note, here's a really cute photo. (http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030507/mdf271648.jpg)

Tiger Claw is no match for Seven Pig Fist!

Serpent
05-08-2003, 09:33 PM
Man, that's just a tiger covered in snacks.

Design Sifu
05-09-2003, 12:50 PM
That tiger's having a Bacon Bath!!!

Chang Style Novice
05-09-2003, 01:31 PM
Summer romance

As I lay on my bed, thinking about you, I feel this strong urge to grab you and squeeze you, because I can't forget last night. You came to me unexpectedly during the balmy and calm night, and what happened in my bed still leaves a tingling sensation in me. You appeared from nowhere and shamelessly, without any reservations, you laid on my naked body...you sensed my indifference, so you applied your hungry mouth to me without any guilt or humiliation, and you drove me near crazy while you drained me. Finally I went to sleep. Today when I woke up, you were gone, I searched for you but to no avail, only the sheets bore witness to last night's events.My body still bears faint marks of your enthusiastic ravishings, making it harder to forget you.

Tonight I will remain awake waiting for you...

....you ****ing mosquito.

JOHNNY
05-09-2003, 01:33 PM
hey kungfumag just saying hi and jumping on this thread that is still going strong. Its been almost three months and I cant believe its still alive. Margie **** your a post *****:D . Tell everyone I said hi there. I ll write a pm to you in a min. Iraq sucks and I cant wait to come back to this site. Well peace to everyone in the US. should be back to the forum in Aug. or Sep.

Johnny :cool:
Iraq

FatherDog
05-09-2003, 01:34 PM
CSN - Git yo'self on over to the "Read This Quote" thread. The Funk needs defending.

Chang Style Novice
05-09-2003, 01:43 PM
Done and Done. So, in a smoke out between Willie and George, who would win? Besides the dealer, I mean.

FatherDog
05-09-2003, 07:14 PM
Hmmm... it's a toughie, but also an odd situation, because when would George be smokin' without puff-puff-passing it to the rest of Parliament?

guohuen
05-10-2003, 09:43 AM
Nicely done!
Get home safe and soon!

M_ArtsMargie
05-10-2003, 11:34 AM
JOHNNY****WE ALL MISS YOU AND ARE HOPING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE BACK SOON. OF COURSE I AM USING BIG LETTERS JUST FOR YOU. KEKEKE. SO TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING SO FAR? HAS IT CALMED DOWN OR WHAT?:D
MISS YA

M_ArtsMargie
05-10-2003, 11:35 AM
CSN***Too Funny! man...i have to print that out to show to friends. he hehe

Kristoffer
05-11-2003, 07:10 AM
:)

JOHNNY
05-11-2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by M_ArtsMargie
JOHNNY****WE ALL MISS YOU AND ARE HOPING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE BACK SOON. OF COURSE I AM USING BIG LETTERS JUST FOR YOU. KEKEKE. SO TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING SO FAR? HAS IT CALMED DOWN OR WHAT?:D
MISS YA
It sucks here and it is hot. Atleast they are not shooting much at us anymore. During the war we were always in our mop suits which protect againgst chemical and biological weapons. We were getting shot at alot too. It calmed down and there is not anymore scud attacks. Atleast we are contributing to the local economy by buying sodas and other things from the locals. Hopefully we can help build this country back up. Hey clear out you mail so I can pm you. Dont want to keep conversations on this thread. Email me at semperfi510@yahoo.com or pm me. Tell everyone at tiger and tcmedia to email me to see how they are.
Peace from Iraq
Johnny
usmc

Shaolin-Do
05-12-2003, 08:27 AM
I think in a smoke out between willie and George, I would put them both under the table like a couple of beginners. :)
I've smoked some of willies pot, its not that amazing. (willie has a hook up here in good ol S.A, and real stoners are always looking for better pot....)
:eek:
:)

M_ArtsMargie
05-12-2003, 10:12 AM
Johnny****I will be sure to have everyone email you to say hi. check ur pm :D

Shaolin Do***have you tried california?

Kristoffer***Where have you been?

Kristoffer
05-12-2003, 10:37 AM
Margie
been here all the time.. This thread is so big that I just don't read it anymore :D Can u gimme a short briefing bout it? lol

GeneChing
05-12-2003, 11:07 AM
... you ARE the topic.;)

GeneChing
05-12-2003, 11:46 AM
Good to hear from you! Glad you're well and things have calmed down enough for you to post. Talk about news from the front lines. Take care of yourself and come home safely!

M_ArtsMargie
05-12-2003, 01:09 PM
Kristoffer***This thread is so long, that for me to break it down to you...would be long too. No...to be honest, I really dont remember everything that has been posted. :p Just the last two pages is all I remember right now. heheheh

M_ArtsMargie
05-12-2003, 05:47 PM
NP****That is very true. My girlfriend moved over a year ago and I have only spoken with her 4 or 5 times within the year.
Which reminds me...that i really need to get on the ball and call her.

Gene***:p

We went to a club here in Fremont on Saturday, it was fun! It is called the saddle Rack. Not meant just for Cowboys, but other people too. It's actually a bit refreshing. They have the bull that you can ride, and a saloon chair, pool room, smoking lobby, 3 full bars, a stage, and a dance floor. It was nice. If you ever get the change, GO!

Xebsball
05-12-2003, 06:25 PM
i lost contact with my old school peoples, think its fault of both of us. though i am this year living where on the city where one of them (buddy Pira, old schools, represent) is too, ive only met him once on the mall, he didnt even get to introduce me to his new girl yet.

Serpent
05-12-2003, 08:23 PM
I'll sum up this thread for you:

For 232 pages, nothing much has happened.

shaolin kungfu
05-12-2003, 08:43 PM
For 232 pages, nothing much has happened

Actually, alot has happened. Just nothing really important.

SevenStar
05-12-2003, 08:43 PM
Well, we talked about sex, posted pics of the girls, talked about sex had an occasional offshoot about music, then talked about sex.

Serpent
05-12-2003, 09:55 PM
And there was spanking. Lots of spanking.

Where's eulerfan? I need a spankin'.

She's forsaken us for a real flesh and blood guy that she refers to as her "slampiece". Weirdo. :(

Chang Style Novice
05-13-2003, 09:36 AM
"Well, we talked about sex, posted pics of the girls, talked about sex had an occasional offshoot about music, then talked about sex."

Well, I also posted a couple of art history papers.

GeneChing
05-13-2003, 09:58 AM
.... it's all about bacon sammiches with the got qi girls. That's why we love 'em so. :cool:

M_ArtsMargie
05-13-2003, 09:59 AM
dont forget the tweeds

Design Sifu
05-13-2003, 10:32 AM
Wasn't there a colossal Squid a few pages back? plus; other assorted Sea Monsters and trouser snakes (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/ppjt001c.html) as well as an assortment of mind altering substances... :eek:

Is this thred sort of fractalizing, now that iterations (http://www.mantasoft.co.uk/_stuff/Recursive.htm) seem to be repeating themselves on a smaller scale?

JOHNNY
05-13-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by GeneChing
Good to hear from you! Glad you're well and things have calmed down enough for you to post. Talk about news from the front lines. Take care of yourself and come home safely!
Its good to hear from you guys also. It has calmed down a lot. We are just waiting for the army to come in. Most Marine units are leaving and we are also retrograding. We left Baghdad like 2 weeks ago. WE should be home by August take care.
Johnny

norther practitioner
05-13-2003, 12:45 PM
Take care Johnny....
Good luck and thank you for your service. Hope to see you home by the end of summer.

GeneChing
05-13-2003, 05:21 PM
And you'll be glad to know I got a haircut, short as yours. :cool:

Xebsball
05-13-2003, 09:54 PM
232 pages and i still havent scored, YAY!! lol :D

ok... :(

nah... :D

shaolin kungfu
05-13-2003, 10:25 PM
232 pages and i still havent scored

233, which makes it only slightly more sad.

Xebsball
05-14-2003, 01:52 PM
screw you guys, im going home

norther practitioner
05-14-2003, 01:58 PM
It'll come young padawan.....
a tip, don't look for it.

MasterKiller
05-14-2003, 02:01 PM
Best to go hogging some night just to get the smell of desperation off of you. Chicks can smell desperation from a mile away.

Kristoffer
05-14-2003, 02:15 PM
I can smell chicks a miles away ;)

norther practitioner
05-14-2003, 02:31 PM
Kristoffer.... we are NOT talking about the baby chickens in your yard...:eek:



















































:D

Kristoffer
05-14-2003, 02:37 PM
Figure that much.. I killed them last week

Kristoffer
05-14-2003, 02:39 PM
höhö

Serpent
05-14-2003, 05:51 PM
So, Kristoffer. Chicks in Sweden stink do they?

Xebsball
05-14-2003, 08:29 PM
i trained bjj today, and rolled with a brown belt
but i wont tell anythinb bout it cos people on this thread are mean to me. Even Gene doesnt luvs me anymore.
But Master is good to me... Master is our friend...

joedoe
05-14-2003, 08:35 PM
So Xebby has finally accepted the embrace of the Dark Side :(

:D

Serpent
05-14-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Xebsball
i trained bjj today, and rolled with a brown belt
but i wont tell anythinb bout it cos people on this thread are mean to me. Even Gene doesnt luvs me anymore.
But Master is good to me... Master is our friend...

You can tell me of your experiences, Padawan. Did you get tied up lie a pretzel?

And where are the pictures from the Brazilian Ass Parade?

Kristoffer
05-15-2003, 04:52 AM
No just BIRD chicks :rolleyes:
..

what the hell am i writing here anyway! :D

M_ArtsMargie
05-15-2003, 10:04 AM
Your right...women can smell desperation. Most women anyways.

norther practitioner
05-15-2003, 10:11 AM
hogging is sometimes your only option.

Potentially extremely loaded statement..............

lol


Guess it just depends on how you take it....
:eek:


Wimmins smell depresion now, I guess it can't smell as bad as obsession for men...

norther practitioner
05-15-2003, 11:19 AM
I know, I'm just joking, we call it the curse of the mumpty

Xebsball
05-15-2003, 04:13 PM
"Watch your mouth, call me desperate"
Xebby, 15th May 2003

what makes one think im desperate, im like cooling on the scene like a horse on a stable, silly americans

The other when i had checked out the bjj place i seen a lot of white belts and a blue belt, so i though ok cool. Then i went yesterday at other time, the dudes started coming in, most of them all fit and shyte like that, brown belt, purple belt and white belt. When it was my time to roll... he picked the brown for me wtf, sombeacth, why not a white, why a brown, just cos im like super tough looking probably.
Brown belt actually choked me twice, i dont know what those chokes called though, one is with the gi, is that the clock choke or something i dunno.
We began from the ground, he on bottom, guard position thang.
He told me to try to pass his guard, cos i havent learned no locks or whatever, just had praticed armbar from the guard. Course i havent learned any guard pass either, so its xebby style basicly.
We went on and shyte, one time i "flipped him" somehow and moved to his back, was almost standing up. From there i didnt know what to do, if i knew id re-flip him and rear naked choke whatever. I could though punch him / make him my beatch from there. Tried some shyte to re-flip him then he grabbed my gi pants and i went down too, then i dont know how but we both ended up standing up. I think in the 5 mins i stood up 2 times total (thats for the people that think BJJ DOMINATE MOST DOMINATIONAL U CANT STAND UP).
he layed back on the floor (guard) after we stood up and we got back to the floor again. later i dunno what he flipped me and mounted me, bypassing my ZERO GUARD (thats how i call it, cos it oughta suck since i just learned it that day) and choked me. The second time i was trying to pass his guard and he did some choke on me again, wich he explained how to counter then.
I did pretty good imho, i wanna try out on the white and blues next. Try with this dude again once i learned more moves

GeneChing
05-15-2003, 06:46 PM
You may have forever ruined my enjoyment of bacon sammiches...:(

Design Sifu
05-15-2003, 06:56 PM
lends new meaning to the phrase...

Makin' bacon

joedoe
05-15-2003, 07:03 PM
Put it this way - at least you had a good partner to learn from :)

Did he at least take you out to dinner before you ttwo rolled around? :D

Serpent
05-15-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by GeneChing
You may have forever ruined my enjoyment of bacon sammiches...:(

That's simply not possible.

Xebsball
05-15-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by joedoe
Did he at least take you out to dinner before you ttwo rolled around? :D

no man, i feel sad, he havent even called yet :(

Serpent
05-15-2003, 09:42 PM
All those BJJ guys are the same. **** b!tches.

joedoe
05-15-2003, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Xebsball


no man, i feel sad, he havent even called yet :(

I bet he even told you he would respect you in the morning didn't he?!?!?! :D

Xebsball
05-15-2003, 10:01 PM
yes he did, and he said the pain would go away in less than a day and the bleeding too :(

joedoe
05-15-2003, 10:06 PM
And I bet he said it wouldn't taste bad either right? :D

Xebsball
05-15-2003, 10:10 PM
he got angry when i spit it off :confused: why?

joedoe
05-15-2003, 10:15 PM
:D

Serpent
05-15-2003, 10:38 PM
Can we please go back to talking about bacon sammiches?

:(

;)

joedoe
05-15-2003, 10:41 PM
We were. Xebby & his BJJ man had some bacon sammiches together, and Xebby cut himself (hence the bleeding & soreness). Then his BJJ man got upset because Xebby spat out his bacon sammich, and didn't call him the next day.

What did you think we were talking about? :D

Serpent
05-15-2003, 10:44 PM
Well, you know, you were talking about BJJ guys... one automatically assumes there's ****sexual behavior involved.

I bet they were eating bacon sammiches while sliding all over each other, naked and greased with bacon fat.

joedoe
05-15-2003, 10:49 PM
Well, Xebby is your padawan. You should discipline him better :D

Serpent
05-16-2003, 12:39 AM
Hey, what he does in his own time is his own responsibility!

Chang Style Novice
05-16-2003, 06:44 AM
he picked the brown for me wtf, sombeacth, why not a white, why a brown, just cos im like super tough looking probably.

My guess is that as a beginner in bjj, he wanted you to deal with a pretty advanced student with some experience teaching and the ability to prevent either of you from getting hurt.

It does sound like a good experience. As soon as I can, I'm gonna go back to that submissions grappling place and try to steal some of their skills for my trick bag.

Design Sifu
05-16-2003, 05:04 PM
Who let this thred slip off of the front page!?!?!?!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

David Jamieson
05-16-2003, 05:56 PM
Don't look at me , I was tending the radishes!

Design Sifu
05-16-2003, 06:08 PM
how are those Radishes anyway???

David Jamieson
05-17-2003, 01:32 PM
pulchritudinous in a bulbous and leafy way.

Kristoffer
05-17-2003, 03:17 PM
Me No English
:confused: :confused: :confused:

shaolin kungfu
05-17-2003, 03:24 PM
I hate radishes.:mad:

Serpent
05-18-2003, 12:24 AM
More to the point, how the hell did bjj find it's way into this topic? The spankings being discussed here were hetero, so back off you dry humping, gi-choking deviants!

Design Sifu
05-19-2003, 03:53 PM
Ever since the BJJ bit this thred as been mostly page 2 stuff...

how sad...

Where are the GOT QI girls when you need 'em...

:( :( :(

norther practitioner
05-19-2003, 04:01 PM
So i made myself this bacon sammich the other day, looked so good....then I remember I don't eat pork, man what a waste....lol

We sure could use a bit more Margie again....

David Jamieson
05-19-2003, 06:45 PM
- Oh Margie, you came and you brought me a turkey, on my day off of worky! -

I would just like to say that like the radishes, the Got Chi girls are pulchritudinous too.

Also, Got qi, sounds a little like "gotchy" when you say it fast and that is what we call underwear in these hyar parts, so, it's kind of a little chuckle when I think of the "gotchy" girls.

hahahahahahahahahaha...nevermind.

cheers

p.s are there any photos of got qi girls sparring in hot pants? :D

Serpent
05-19-2003, 07:56 PM
Kung Lek, comedian and audience rolled into one.

Xebsball
05-19-2003, 08:39 PM
"Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
when I come home cold and tired
it's good to warm my bones beside the fire
far away across the field
the tolling of the iron bell
calls the faithful to their knees
to hear the softly spoken magic spells"

from "Time" by Pink Floyd

Xebsball
05-19-2003, 08:50 PM
ah oh yeah i found a place to weight myself at uni, and found now im 267, cool huh, yeah, whtever the fock who gives a fock

Serpent
05-19-2003, 09:04 PM
267 what?

Xebsball
05-19-2003, 09:06 PM
lbs dude, if we talk in kg the americans get all lost and stuff :D

joedoe
05-19-2003, 09:08 PM
LOL :D

Serpent
05-19-2003, 11:27 PM
True, true. Bloody neanderthals.

Chang Style Novice
05-20-2003, 05:50 AM
Also, at 267 lbs. yer just a d@mn big guy. At 267 kg, you're a morbidly obese tub of cat cr@p.

Kristoffer
05-20-2003, 06:09 AM
"At 267 kg, you're a morbidly obese tub of cat cr@p."

..Or as they are known in France: 'Americans'
:D

Chang Style Novice
05-20-2003, 06:11 AM
Hey, this morning I only tipped in at 105 kg!

Chang Style Novice
05-20-2003, 07:27 AM
Meanwhile, continuing my effort to turn this into a comics and modern art forum, check out this Robert Crumb tribute to Philip Guston. (http://sir.real.50megs.com/comix/catalog/covers/w/Weirdo07.jpg)

GeneChing
05-20-2003, 10:02 AM
Why in the world would someone want to turn this got qi? girls thread to comics and modern art? Well I don't know art, but I know what I like - got qi girls mud BJJ with a bacon sammich for a snacky. :cool: That kicks butt on comics and modern art?

And Kung Lek, you last post was troubling - you OK? The moderating ain't getting to ya, is it? ;)

Shaolin-Do
05-20-2003, 10:04 AM
mmm..... Got qi girls are always nice.
:)
Bacon sammich?
Sounds artery clogging.
.... but delicious in a homer simpson kinda way.
:D

M_ArtsMargie
05-20-2003, 10:12 AM
I'M BACK...Did ya miss me yet?
So were talking about got qi girls, and bacon sammiches. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i have a peanut butter and jelly right now.yummy!

and a starbucks coffee...mm..mmm good! yet...somehow the two does not taste right together. mmm?:confused:

I don't know...i feel like babbling right now.:p

M_ArtsMargie
05-20-2003, 10:15 AM
I went to Fresno for the weekend. Man..talk about a weather change. It was nice, except for my allergies. I am heading back out there next weekend to see my friend. It's going to be a lonley drive just like last time. :( Oh well...I might as well enjoy the quite time while I have it right?

Shaolin-Do
05-20-2003, 10:20 AM
That is why it tastes not right.

Shaolin-Do
05-20-2003, 10:21 AM
ahhhhhhh.... but what kind of jelly?

Shaolin-Do
05-20-2003, 10:25 AM
Indeed...













...


















...

..:confused:

norther practitioner
05-20-2003, 10:31 AM
Martial circle......

In college, one of my best friends, Danny, studied martial arts. He started showing me some stuff, got me interested. A few months after this, a kung fu school opened down the road, we both joined. I was very busy with school, and the ski team, I was there on and off for the next year and a half (more steady once the ski season was over, missed training during exam periods, etc.) After this graduation occured, I moved to Colorado, Danny moved to Florida. We have kept contact after graduation and all that good stuff. Danny, upon moving to Florida, went out and searched, found a school, studied there, and excelled. Some politics happend, his school split up he went one way, and continued to train hard, accelling, and making it to an assistant instructor. They had opened a new school, pulled in a lot of students very quickly.

I moved to Colorado, immediately started training, been taking a week off here and there because of illnesses or a few months off once b/c of knee injury. All in all things are going well, progression is going well. Most students have gone there own way for the kung fu class. The school was medium sized, and shrinking. Sh'rfu seemed to like this, he was giving the few of us a lot of attention, and progression seemed to spead up. I made assistant instructor at the school, now we are moving to a new location, looking to add classes and students.

My Sh'rfu on a trip to a graduation in Florida, sees an add in a local paper for a somewhat progressive martial arts school, he gives a call, gets to talking with the sifu at that school. He ends up going in and talking more with him. Telling them where his school was etc. an assistant at the school happend to be walking in, my friend from college. He heard Colorado, realizing the oddity, asked this man if he knew me, he said yes.... small world. After a meeting with the sifu, we are going to do an exchange with each other. A plan that my friend and I have had since we left each other in college. Oddities.

David Jamieson
05-20-2003, 10:35 AM
And Kung Lek, you last post was troubling - you OK? The moderating ain't getting to ya, is it?

too many radishes makes a head woozy. :D

cheers

Shaolin-Do
05-20-2003, 10:45 AM
cause I put lsd in them.




:D

rubthebuddha
05-20-2003, 02:01 PM
no need jelly. why?















me? i prefer syrup.

Design Sifu
05-20-2003, 02:50 PM
I think that depends on who's wareing it...

Some prefer Honey as well...

not me tough, never touch the stuff....

well almost never.

M_ArtsMargie
05-20-2003, 04:48 PM
Gene***I think it would be a good idea to maybe have a got qi (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/tshirgotqi99.html) clothing line...to go with that got qi girl calender. Wouldn't that be a good idea if we did come out with the calender and the clothing. For some reason I was just thinking that.:D

Chang Style Novice
05-20-2003, 04:49 PM
Gene - what's your problem? Did you have a happy childhood or something?;)

norther practitioner
05-20-2003, 04:55 PM
I think his good times came on tour :D ..


Margie, so long as it includes got chi lingerie....:eek:

M_ArtsMargie
05-20-2003, 05:37 PM
I Have to get into shape first. That is what some one told me anyways
:p

M_ArtsMargie
05-20-2003, 05:45 PM
NP***How cool? Good for you. Isn't wierd how when you least expect something....bam....it hits you.

Serpent
05-20-2003, 06:41 PM
Dayum! How much shape does a girl need? ;)

GeneChing
05-21-2003, 09:37 AM
...or kicks you.... in the head...

...better than in the butt....

...i think....

:confused: