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FIRE HAWK
12-02-2002, 11:35 PM
Are the sets or forms in Yik Kam or Cho family Wing Chun such as the Tiger Crane form in cho family Wing Chun is it just like the Tiger Crane form that is in Hung Gar or does it have more of a Wing Chun look or does it look more Wing Chunish what does this form look like ?

FIRE HAWK
12-02-2002, 11:39 PM
Although the Cho (Cao) family has created and adapted several sets, both boxing and weapon, the Siu Lien Tao (Xiao Lian Tou, Little First Training) remains the core of Yik Kam Wing Chun Kuen (Yi Jin Yongchun Quan). According to the Cho tradition, Siu Lien Tao is divided into four sections. The first was the "understanding of principle" section which is performed in the Yee Jee Ma (Erzi Ma, Two Character Horse). The second is the "accept and response" section. The third is the "smoothing the flow" section. The fourth is the " natural transport" section. Another way of looking at it is that these four section are arranged as standing, moving and rotating, angling, and walking.


Hoi Sik
In addition to the Siu Lien Tao, there are several other core components. Another is a Hoi Sik (Kai Shi, Salutation Sequence) which is a brief summary of Yik Kam Wing Chun kuen roots. This salutation sequence consists of "V" shape structure, and "V" shape positioning or angling. A four cyclic basic movements were used as a basic structure training and Chi Sau. A pole set named Luk Dim Boon Gwun Sup Saam Cheung (Liu Dian Ban Gun Shi San Chang, Six-and-half Pole Thirteen Spear), , with spearing pole as the half point, and a knive set named Yan Jee Do (Renzi Do, "V" Shape Knives) were two standard weapon sets. Finally, there also was a Muk Yan Jong (Mu Ren Zhuang, Wooden Dummy) set. In late sifu Cho Hong-Choy's words " "V" is the symbol and the four fundamental cycles are the trade-mark of Cho family Wing Chun Kuen."

In addition to the core sets, there are additional sets in the Cho curriculum that have taken the concepts of Siu Lien Tao and been created to emphasize certain points. Sui Da (Shui Da, Essential Fighting) is a collection of sequence of applications. (Note, the 'Sui' of 'Sui Da' was often mistaken for the 'Sui' meaning 'broken' due to the same pronounciation of these chinese characters). The Fu Hok (Hu He, Tiger and Crane) introduces both the tiger tail kick and the ground fighting kick. Chi Sau Loong (Chi Shou Long) is a two man set which ilustrates technique application. Jin Jeung (Jian Zhang, Arrow Palm) introduces the entering front kick and single arm continuous techniques.

Suplemental sets inlcude Fa Kuen (Huaquan, Flower Fist), Tap Chui (Hamering Punches), Jin Chui (Jian Chui, Arrow Punches), Chui Pat Sin (Drunken Set) etc. These were sets that created either to illustrate the Siu Lien Tao or basic fighting application cases. One of the sets sifu Cho Hung-Choy taught was the Cho family Choy Lee Fut set. This set was a combination of five points (Pow, Kup, Sou, Kwa, and Chap) from Choy Lee Fut system along with some Wing Chun Kuen techniques (Oi Lin, Kang, etc.) This set sometimes generated controversy on wherether Cho was Wing Chun Kuen or Choy Lee Fut. According to sifu Cho Hung-Choy this set was created by the Cho to memorialize Choy Lee Fut friends who had close relationship with Cho family. However, he stressed Cho students must not modifie the Siu Lien Tao to Choy Lee Fut or any other Nam Kuen such as Hung Gar.

As for weapon sets, the Chos included double head pole, spear, hook, three section staff, single broad knife, kwan do, chair, hammers, trident, etc.

tparkerkfo
12-03-2002, 12:58 PM
Does this mean you answered your own question?

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FIRE HAWK
12-03-2002, 09:57 PM
http://www.wingchunkuen.com/yikkam/sets.shtml