Difference between Shuai Chiao and Judo?

[cha kuen]

What's the difference between Shuai Jiao and Judo?

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[BearBear]

Is there like "traditional" (ie fighting specific) and "sport" types?

BearBear

[cogg]

dont know much but iam aware that shuai chiao release the opponent at a different time to increase the impact of the opponent on the floor, also the breakfalls are different to protect the fallee on impact with the floor.
My two pence worth of basic knowledge, but im sure there are other folk on here that can enlighten you more.:D

[yutyeesam]

I'm sure the debate between judo breakfalls vs. SJ breakfalls has come up a million times, so I don't want to beat a dead horse.

Personally, I prefer slapping the ground with my arm and the right body positioning over falling on the floor into fetal ball.

[Geezer]

Shuai Chiao History

Shuai Chiao is said to be over 5000 years old, with the empirical evidence validating at least 3000 years. It has been known by several different names with the name Shuai Chiao or Swai Jiao being agreed on by the 1928 National Koushu Committee in Nanking. There are four regions that are noted for the Shuai Chiao players they produce: Beijing, Tein Tsien, Mongolia, and Pao Ting. Along with them are many other lesser known groups and regions as well. Shuai Chiao is known as Chinese Wrestling, however this is much different from what we in the west view wrestling as! This art is both sport and combat effective, (called a complete system) offering throws, locks, strikes, and kicks as methods in combat! In sport, the throwing only contest offer a test for the development of endurance, speed, strength, and reactions.

Judo History

Judo was derived from Jujitsu which had many names and schools. Jujitsu is an art for either attacking others or defending oneself with nothing but one's own body. Prof. Kano adopted the superlative parts of all the Jujitsu schools, got rid of precarious parts, and established the new Kodokan Judo based on his own insight and arrangement.
It started with only nine disciples and a twelve-mat dojo.
The Kodokan Judo was recognized in a few years to be excellent since its students overwhelmed the Jujitsu athletes at the Police Bujitsu Contest. This really was the first step for its future rapid progress.
Prof. Kano promoted judo as a physical exercise from a wide national point of view. Proceeding with the organization of the Kodokan and enacting the regulations of Judo, he became the first Asian member of the International Olympic Committee in 1909 and worked for the spread of Judo world-wide.
Judo became an official event in the Olympic Games of 1964, backed by Judo fans and sport promoters all over the world. It is now a very popular sport almost anywhere in the world.
"Judo", which is now exercised in many countries of the world, is the very Kodokan Judo, created in 1882 by Prof. Jigoro Kano. It is clearly stated in the Article 1 of International Judo Federation (IJF) statutes, "IJF recognizes 'Judo' which was created by Jigoro Kano."

Hopefully this might shed abit more light on the subject.

Sheldon:)

[Water Dragon]

On the Judo vs. Shuai Chiao falling, it's not a matter of one being better. Shuai Chiao throws you at different angles than Judo, particularly on your side. The reason we don't slap is that the way we are thrown, many of the throws would land us directly on the elbow joint if we slapped. I love judo for the record. It's an excelant art.

[cha kuen]

Sheldon,

I don't think that helped! I was looking for something more theory. But someone just stated that Shuai Chiao throws at different angles. I find that interesting and perhaps we can get more feedback like that.

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[WanderingMonk]

Originally posted by cha kuen
Sheldon,

I don't think that helped! I was looking for something more theory. But someone just stated that Shuai Chiao throws at different angles. I find that interesting and perhaps we can get more feedback like that.

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Cha Kuen,

If you read Chinese, you can find a lot of info at

http://bbs3.nsysu.edu.tw/planetxt/treasure/shuai-chiao/

good lcuk

WM

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by yutyeesam
I'm sure the debate between judo breakfalls vs. SJ breakfalls has come up a million times, so I don't want to beat a dead horse.

Personally, I prefer slapping the ground with my arm and the right body positioning over falling on the floor into fetal ball.

http://martial.best.vwh.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=17921

that is a recent (read:currently ongoing) thread about SC vs judo falls. the footwork differs in the two arts, as do the training methods. there are also small differences in how throws are executed, for example judo's hip loading, and and placement of the opponent's arm in the shoulder throw. for somewhat of a comparison, check out another current thread - http://martial.best.vwh.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=18085

a major difference is that groundwork is part of the judo curriculum.