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Oso
12-06-2002, 08:40 PM
I don't usually do this sort of thing but this guy is in my town
and I just happened to see his billing as a "12th Dan" and had
to see if his website offered an explanation.


http://www.jeonsworld.com/index.htm


lo and behold, his website qualifies him as a "12th Dan(Total)"

anyone heard of "kicheondo"?

and how did he apparently get a 5th dan in "Wushu/Tai Chi"?

hmmm...........

what sucks is he has a ton of freakin' students.

sorry, just ranting.

Matt

rogue
12-06-2002, 11:13 PM
"Undefeated total 12th degree black belt" I think he added his ranks (6 + 2 + 4) and made himself of 12th degree.:eek:

Too darn funny!

TkdWarrior
12-07-2002, 12:26 AM
hmm intresting in mostly korean arts Masters degree is awarded after 8th belt?
did he awarded that himself?

TaeKwonDo 6th Degree
Judo/Hapkido 2nd Degree
Kicheondo 4th Degree
Wushu/Taichiquan 5th Degree
2nd degree in judo or hapkido or both?
-TkdWarrior-

dezhen2001
12-07-2002, 03:44 AM
Kicheondo? sorry i dont know anything of it... does anyone here?
kitchendo? :p

dawood

Sho
12-07-2002, 05:24 AM
A Korean appetizer or something? :D

Brad
12-07-2002, 06:21 AM
Awarded “The greatest and most beloved

Master Instructor in the World" in HMA


Real or not, it's a funny title, lol :D

Oso
12-07-2002, 07:23 AM
It's sad really.

My first MA experience was in a TKD School in
Durham NC. A Sherman Fog (or Fogg) was the instructor.
I remember a very no nonsence atmosphere and a very
common sense approach to self defense. He was the
very first person to tell me "Run, if you can. It's not worth
it even if you win the fight" I remember doing the first form
(poomsa??) with the 4 or 5 movements in each direction.
And really digging it at 13 years old.


Matt

rodrigo7x
07-25-2016, 09:39 AM
Hi Matt,

I hope you are still around this thread. I am collecting documentation to support biography documentation for a beloved master that recently passed away, and I was hoping you could provide some insight that might be helpful.

He studied under master Sherman Fog, in the 70's which I believe is around the time you were in the area. He mentioned other teachers like Sifu Yum Lee and Sifu Frashure. They might have been teaching in the vicinity of Master Sherman Fog's school and probably were popular in that area of Durham, NC. at that time. Unfortunately, there's not much documentation online about these masters and you seem to be knowledgeable about at least one (Mr. Fog) so I thought you would be helpful.

If you knew or had heard of them (Sifu Yum Lee and Sifu Frashure ) and information that you could provide would be well appreciated for the purpose of documenting their historical presence in the marital arts world.

Best Regards,

Joe