Has anyone sparred an MMA guy?

[cha kuen]

Has anyone sparred an MMA guy? What happened? I would think that these guys learn good fighting skills without all the forms and what not. I may take some classes ..

[Tainan Mantis]

A student of Rolls Gracie invited me to his private class.
Rolls walks in the room and the student introduces us and then tells Rolls I'm gonna try my stuff on him.
It was sorta like supposed to be sparring, but to an observer it would look like he was demonstrating his techniques on a dummy.

Funny thing, I knew the moves he did, it is just that he was very good at them.

Then it was two hours of drill sparring.
That is sparring trying to apply one of two techniques.
I loved it and would like to do more of this brand of MA.
So I would encourage you to try it out.

[yenhoi]

I sparr MMA guys every week. They smell abit different from TMA dudes, but besides that its all about the person, not the style.

Oh, and religion, MMA guys are pagans.

:eek:

[Sho]

Originally posted by yenhoi
Oh, and religion, MMA guys are pagans.Yes. :D

[David Jamieson]

yes.

one guy was what i would call a "charger". :D

another guy was "grabby"

they weren't awful, overall, but technique needed a lot of work.

I suppose i will get the opportunity to spar with an mma ist with plenty of skill one day though.

cheers

[fa_jing]

Sure. My Sifu. And he could F me up at will. Although his focus was a bit different from what is being touted as the typical MMA guy on the boards. He wasn't a shooter, and had studied TCMA for 26 years in addition to having boxed, cross-trained in grappling, JKD, and who knows what else.

[HuangKaiVun]

Yesterday, I met a prospective student (high school senior) who had learned a mix of hapkido, classical Japanese jujitsu, Western wrestling, and karate.

In our sparring match, he attacked me and secured me with a headlock. I grabbed him back, so then he picked me up to throw me down. I held onto him so that I wouldn't take the full floor impact (still took a hard hit, though).

On the ground, he had me in that side headlock still. Luckily, my hands were free. I grabbed his trachea with my right hand and put my thumb into his right eye, which was all I could've done.

Of course, neither of us got hurt because we were just sparring. But that guy could've hurt me badly if he really wanted to - and chances are that I'd could've hurt him too.

He liked what we did, and I liked what he did. I hope he comes to class so that we can spar some more.

[tjmitch]

"On the ground, he had me in that side headlock still. Luckily, my hands were free. I grabbed his trachea with my right hand and put my thumb into his right eye, which was all I could've done.

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Or you could learn some basic ground fighting. Escaping from a headlock is groundfighting 101. If you go out and buy Renzo Gracies book, and Gene Simco's BBJ basics and BJJ the master text you will have a good starting point. Reaching for a trachea and trying an eye gouge is desperation, not Martial art.

[David Jamieson]

why by the gracie manual when you can get it for free by grabbing the us army h2h manual. :D

It's basically all gracie stuff.

cheers

[SevenStar]

definitely take some classes. It can only help.

[Repulsive Monkey]

What on earth do you mean that "Reaching for the traches and eye gouging is desperation, not martial art"???Attacking the eyes is most certainly part of a martial artists repertoire, and attacking the throat too. They are most certainly legitimate, and in real life circumstances will probably save your life too (if pertinent to the situation).

[Fred Sanford]

i fought a mma guy. he tried to shoot in on me so i gouged him in the eyes and he fell over screaming and i laughed and laughed.

[Royal Dragon]

LOL!!!

I fought an MMA guy once. As he shot in, I backed up and pointed behind him and said " LOOK!!! It's ROYCE!!!!!"

When he turned to look, I kicked him in the back of the head with a jumping spin 360 side kick, and knocked him out cold.

I landed soft and smooth, like nothing happened, and grined (see)---------------->:D

[Kymus]

Originally posted by yenhoi
I sparr MMA guys every week. They smell abit different from TMA dudes, but besides that its all about the person, not the style.

Oh, and religion, MMA guys are pagans.

:eek:

how'd you know?

[rogue]

Reaching for a trachea and trying an eye gouge is desperation, not Martial art. That's news to me. Traching is one of my favorites as well as the favorite of several instructors I've had.

[yenhoi]

..........regular confrence calls with Ryu and Bruce Lee... thats how..


know what?

:D

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by Repulsive Monkey
What on earth do you mean that "Reaching for the traches and eye gouging is desperation, not martial art"???Attacking the eyes is most certainly part of a martial artists repertoire, and attacking the throat too. They are most certainly legitimate, and in real life circumstances will probably save your life too (if pertinent to the situation).

I think he just worded it badly. What he's saying is that hkv said that those were the only options he had. If hkv had some fround knowledge, he would've had ALOT more options.

[Cheese Dog]

Well, nowadays every time I spar I'm sparring MMA guys! Most of the guys at my school have cross-trained in at least one other style. But I assume you're talking about someone who trains in a standup art like muay thai and BJJ for ground work; yes, I had the opportunity a couple of years ago when a MMA instructor began teaching at my kempo school for about six months.

Result? As long as we remained standing I could hold my own, and I successfully defended MOST of his takedown attempts. But the few times he got me on the ground he pretty much owned me. Luckily I was able to learn basic groundwork from him, I'm alot more skilled in grappling now.

If you can learn some MMA it will only enhance your fighting style. I highly recommend it!

[tjmitch]

Seven star understood my point. Reaching for an eye poke becuase you are in a bad position is desperation. Trying to grab for the treachea when you are in a bad position is desperation. If you are in a bad position on the ground and you get a finger in someones eye, you are still in a bad position on the ground if you are not able to improve your postion when he retracts his head. He is not going to stop fighting becuase he is in pain, all you have done is opened a window of oppertunity to improve your position and escape. You HAVE NOT ended the fight.

I did not mean that the eye and the treachea are not valid targets, but the better plan would be to escape from the side mount/head lock and get back to your feet. Then if you still want to attack his trehea, kick him in it and end the fight for sure.

[Knifefighter]

Nothing wrong with an eye gouge or trachea grab when used in combination with a solid headlock escape.

BTW, using a headlock is the sign of a guy who doesn't know much about grappling.

[Chang Style Novice]

Do I have to post the parable of the elephant for the hundredth time or what?!!?

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by ghthomason

Kung Fu is not a sport.

That's one of the great things about Mixed Martial Art training. You can use it for sport, real fighting, self-defense, health/fitness, or relaxation/meditation.

[Chang Style Novice]

That's one of the great things about kung fu, too, although you wouldn't know it to listen to some folks.

As I said - parable of the elephant.

[yenhoi]

Which elephant parable? The one where his trunk gets pulled? Pushed into the river? Eaten by the African tribe? That whole flower thing? Wtf?:eek: :confused: :eek:

[Chang Style Novice]

The parable of the blind men and the elephant.

One grabs the tail and says "An elephant is like a rope."
One grabs the trunk and says "An elephant is like a snake."
One grabs the leg and says "An elephant is like a tree."
One grabs the side and says "An elephant is like a wall."
One grabs the tusk and says "An elephant is like a spear."
One grabs the ear and says "An elephant is like a fan."

[yenhoi]

Dude, thats just nasty.

:eek:

[Chang Style Novice]

I have no idea why you think that's nasty.

[shaolin kungfu]

What does the blind man think when he grabs the elephants pee-pee?

[shaolin kungfu]

It's a good parable, despite the jokes that can be made.

[Royal Dragon]

Quick, everyone look!!!


It's ROYCE!!!!

[yenhoi]

CSN: quick w/ edit button?

**** you and that little elephant you rode in on.

:eek:

[Chang Style Novice]

Yeah, I get edit happy sometimes. But I still have no idea what you found nasty in any version of my posts.

Or for that matter, why you're swearing at me.

[The Willow Sword]

if you mean a Mindless Male A$$hole.

sure i have sparred plenty of them ;) :D :p

MRTWS

[Black Jack]

I thought self defense was all about desperation. Desperate to get the hell out of the situation ;)

[cha kuen]

Thanks for the reply guys! I will look into the classes!

[HuangKaiVun]

Thanks for your advice on this thread, guys.

On the other hand, the MMA guy in question signed up for classes at my school.

Not only that, he signed up 3 of his friends and wants to introduce me to his Marine recruiter (a hand-to-hand specialist).

Long live MMA - of which kung fu is a part of.