Four new Quicktime clips

[Tainan Mantis]

For those who have seen my other Quicktime clips here are 4 new ones called...
-running
-running 2
-stick
-stick 2

This is a new arrangement of all the clips I have posted in the past onto one page.

Kevin Brazier's Video Clips (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com?multimedia/brazier.html)

All comments appreciated.

[isol8d]

The clips are not showing up on the website.

[yingching]

http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/brazier.html

[Tainan Mantis]

Kris,
The empty hand is basic skills of mantis.
They are taught very quickly.
The weapons take a long time, especially straight sword.

[puma]

hey guys, the picture ain't showing!

[Tainan Mantis]

Puma,
Try Yingching's link.
I posted it incorrectly.

[mantis108]

Hope this help those who are looking for Tainan Mantis' video clips.

Mantis108

[MantisifuFW]

Tainan Mantis,

I can view some of the clips quite well. I appreciate your sharing so much of an insight into your pursuit of Tanglang.

However, my browser locks up either during or after each one. Has anyone else run into this problem or is it just my machine?

Oh, by now you are back in the states. Welcome home!
Steve Cottrell

[buddhapalm]

Hi Tainan,
Please let me know how we can order your video's ?

Cheers

Buddhapalm

[Tainan Mantis]

The clip called running part two.

You may have trouble downloading some of these.
I had to come back after a few failures to get Running Part 2 to work.

-starts with outer hanging hand drill(wai gua shou).
I move forward and then Sean moves in towards me.
As I am about to get hit I throw an unexpected groin kick.
He blocks, same as if blocking my punch, and throws his own kick.
Then we repeat the drill.

Slightly related to the thread called Fanche Lulu.
In that drill we run and kick in the same way, just a different hand technique.

-Next comes Wind at Back of Brain(nao hou sheng feng) thanks to Mantis108.
This is also done a lot in the other clip called "running"
When we both do the technique at the same time it looks very peculiar.
It is just training.

It is a way to add in other techniques.
We only agree to do Wind at Back of Brain, but the next technique we throw is our choice.
In this case it is "avoiding Hardness(duo gang)" technique.

-Finally, Sean does Wind at Back of Brain and I surprise him by taking advantage of his open position to do folding elbow and a hook to the bottom of the jaw bone.

buddhapalm,
video details are threw private e-mails.
Thanks for asking.

[Mr.Binx]

If anyone has trouble downloading or playing any of Tainan's clips, try the following links:

Babu Two Man (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/babu2man.mov)
Beng Shao (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/bengshao.mov)
Deng Ta (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/dengta.mov)
Hand to Hand Drill (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/hands.mov)
Jiakai (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/jiakai.mov)
Pierce The Ear (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/piercetheear.mov)
Running (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/running.mov)
Running Part Two (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/running2.mov)
Slice Knees (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/slicekneesend.mov)
Tiger Tail Whip (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/tigertailwhip.mov)
Two Man Stick (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/two-man-stick.mov)
Two Man Stick Part Two (http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/multimedia/two-man-stick2.mov)

They still link to the clips on Tainan's server but it should pop the video up in your media player, rather than your browser (which will often cause problems with some older or temperamental machines). If all else fails, you might want to try reinstalling your media player. Can't view em' on my work PC so I'll have to wait till I get home. Some of the clips are pretty big so some dialup connections may time-out on them regardless of which links you're trying to access them through. Hope this is useful!

Edit: FYI, these links will probably die next time Tainan re-arranges the video clips on his site.

[Tainan Mantis]

Mr. Binx,
Thanks for going to all that trouble on behalf of my vid clips.

[Mr.Binx]

It was no trouble at all. I have alot of free time at work in front of a computer. I really enjoyed the intent of technique that is being applied in your hand-to-hand drill clip.

[Djimbe]

Up you go

[Tainan Mantis]

Thanks Djimbe,

I got the OK from my shrfu to post some clips of him doing some Mantis forms like Luanjie, Zhai Yao and some 2 man with him.

Yingching,
If you can help that would be nice. But time is limited as I leave for the states on Thursday.

[mantis108]

Wow, it would be great to see Shrfu Shr Zheng Zhong in action! This is really wonderful news. Thanks for the head up, Tainan.

Warmest regards

Mantis108

[yingching]

Tainan,
No problem, send them to me the same as the others... I'll take care of the rest :)
Brian
YingChing

[Tainan Mantis]

On the Dengta clip Yang crosses his feet and puts one foot flat on the ground.

As a habit the feet should be spread enough to avoid knocking the knees on nasty throws.

My final throw Yang is standing solid and falls in the more standard way.

Once the student masters these stages shown here they can work the counter which is;
-a simple deng ta reversal. This requires the man to pivot almost 180 degrees.
It is also the second to last technique in the 2 man form 8 Step Continuous Punches
-punching to face while lifting front leg

[Meat Shake]

Tainan, the "running" clips are very very choppy on my computer, but it seems interesting. My knowledge of mantis is very elementary, and literature on the subject is almost non existant around here.
Could you please give me a breif explanation as to what "running" is?
Regards-
Meat Shake

[WanderingMonk]

Originally posted by Meat Shake
Tainan, the "running" clips are very very choppy on my computer, but it seems interesting. My knowledge of mantis is very elementary, and literature on the subject is almost non existant around here.
Could you please give me a breif explanation as to what "running" is?
Regards-
Meat Shake

you can always watch it frame by frame by pressing the right arrow key.

wm

[Tainan Mantis]

I have noticed that not much literature exists on Mantis in English.
I am working on several translation projects.

About the action. Running is made up of a dodging drill and a variation of the drill called outer hanging hand.

I went into great detail on outer hanging hand in the Mantis Quarterly magazine. Those details explained how to do the drill. If you have more questions I will answer them here.

The dodging aspect I think is coming up in an upcoming MQ issue. Written by Robert Hui, who is the fellow who taught me this drill.

As for the term "running," in Mantis there is the saying,
"The hands move like a mantis, the feet run like a horse."
No where else in Mantis, to my knowledge, is this term used.

Also, a movie of Musashi the swordsman quotes a soldier explaining to a farmer,

"A war is a run, when you can no longer run it is time to die."

I always felt this saying fit Mantis to a T. In Mantis the drills have extensive running and only stop when you are exhuasted. He who is not exhuasted will then defeat the tired man.

I think this is well demonstrated by these 2 running drills I have put up.

[Mr.Binx]

Just as an aside, I'd like to state my great appreciation for the depth of information and amount of effort that was put into that particular article. The edges on my copy of that issue of the Mantis Quarterly are beginning to show the wear from repeated perusal. :D My deep thanks goes out to you, sifu Cottrell, and everyone else who contributed (and continue to contribute) their personal effort in order for me to have access to such a resource.

[Enforcer-]

horrible footwork and balance. The head was also left unprotected and the punches were wide and angular. I thought mantis looked like this:
http://www.8step.com/mantis/gallery/grandmaster_mantis.jpg
http://www.8step.com/mantis/gallery/finley_neckhit.jpg
http://www.8step.com/mantis/sifufalling.gif

[18elders]

you sure you know what your talking about?
would like to see you go hand to hand with tainan

[18elders]

you sure you know what your talking about?
would like to see you go hand to hand with tainan

[Three Harmonies]

Enforcer,
what do you see wrong with the footwork and balance? THere should be a rule that states if you are going ot negatively criticize something (one), then you should at least have the courtesy to explain what you see as being wrong.
Jake

[sayloc]

Here we go again!

[Three Harmonies]

Sayloc
You disagree?

[sayloc]

I agree with you Three. You posted just a second before me.

My post was meant for the enforcer and 18.

As for the enforcer, if you dont have any thing good to say dont say anything. I feel that silence would be the better way to critisize that posting some thing that lacks substance.

As for 18 I realize that Tainan my be your kuing fu unckle or some thing but why let the enforcer drag you down to the gutter? Just ignore him and he will not post again clogging up the forum.

Same goes for you three.

Ignore them an they will go away.

I Like to read tainans post and dont want to see any negative comments discourage him or anyone else with knowledge from posting here.

Have a ggod day

[Tainan Mantis]

Enforcer,
Thanks for the critiscm.
Would you give a specific example of poor footwork and unprotected head?

I started this posting vid clips busnizz here about 2 years ago. Since then several others have done the same and had to endure the criticism.

Whether the clips were good or bad I respect them all for the posting(actually I cna't see anyon's clips but my own on this dam Shlit box).

So, seeing how you have a lot of fighting info in your head I invite you to direct us to the internet location were we may view you in action.

Thanks in advance.

[ursa major]

Originally posted by Enforcer-
horrible footwork and balance. The head was also left unprotected and the punches were wide and angular. I thought mantis looked like this:
http://www.8step.com/mantis/gallery/grandmaster_mantis.jpg
http://www.8step.com/mantis/gallery/finley_neckhit.jpg
http://www.8step.com/mantis/sifufalling.gif


Nice suits. Where can I pick up something like that? :D

Best regards,
UM.

[BeiTangLang]

Better for Enforcer to show us what _HIS_ mantis looks like.
I'll bet that he will not do it. Any takers??

[MonkeyBoy]

Is it not unfair to compare pictures with video footage in this type of discussion?

[Enforcer-]

well you jump around too much in the running clips in my opinion. and the attacks didn't seem really commited.

[shirkers1]

That offer to mapquest enforcer to my doorstep is still open. I'll even pay for the gas chief. PLEASE!!!!

[yu shan]

Sayloc

I do not think 18 elders post meant any harm, we are grown men here right!? Enforcer has an agenda and we are unfortunately being subjected to it. But... who really cares. Consider the source, and lets move on.

I am very lucky to have access to some of Tainan Mantis`s work. This man is a very serious Mantis boxer. He is good at his craft.

I`m sure when I put up clips, I`ll go thru the same shiat. My goal is the same as the rest of the men, to share.

[Enforcer-]

another praying mantis guy on bullshido said about the clips:

None of them include free sparring, but never the less they look fine, basic two man drilling. They look like they are working hard at it, which is better than what is usually broadcasted.
http://bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17873

[Mika]

I have seen this every single time someone has posted a clip here.

This is what happens.

1) A clip is posted.

2) People thank the poster and give positive comments on the clip.

3) Someone comments on the clip in a more negative manner.

4) The whole board is upset. This is where things start going wrong. Threats, "Where's YOUR clip?", and other logical fallacies surface.

5) With some luck, people will eventually go back to discussing the clips again.

OK. If a clip is posted, it is subjected to any kind of criticism, we all agree on that. Or at least we all say that.
If a person doesn't quantify what he thinks is missing from a given clip, then his comments should be ignored. If he keeps on posting, then it's the moderators' business to take care of him. But in any case, negative comments with suggestions or ideas are actually the best possible posts the original poster can hope for. Anybody can say "Great job!", but you cannot learn anything from that (well, unless someone says "I especially liked that and that"). Also, constructive criticism can only come from someone with experience, whereas positive comments (with no substance) can come from just about anybody. It's with constructive criticism that we all learn something. And learn we must, no one here is quite complete yet, right?

Now, if anyone has any hidden agendas, then it's again the moderators' business to deal with that. Do not let a bully distract you from what's important. And if he isn't a bully but one of the few daring, outspoken peeps with experience in the style in question, then listen to him.

Don't shoot the messenger before you are sure you have received the full message from him :)

----------------------

Anyways, great clips, especially the two-man drills. I do not know enough about the weapons (or Tang Lang, for that matter) to say anything about them, but the empty-hand clips are very flowing :)

//mika

[Enforcer-]

So, seeing how you have a lot of fighting info in your head I invite you to direct us to the internet location were we may view you in action.

Thanks in advance.

how bout a throwdown?

[puja]

Thanks Kevin for sharing your clips. I had downloaded them for quite a while from that other thread you posted, but there was also the 'Piercing the ear' clip missing/not working.
I didn't have the time to watch the clips more carefully yet, but I really liked those 'sticky jian' clips (also bengshao, jiakai slice knees). I like the idea of some kind of 'ting jin' with swords. Is this intended or did I get that wrong?

Best regards,

Puja

[BeiTangLang]

Originally posted by Mika

Now, if anyone has any hidden agendas, then it's again the moderators' business to deal with that. Do not let a bully distract you from what's important. And if he isn't a bully but one of the few daring, outspoken peeps with experience in the style in question, then listen to him.
//mika

Hidden agendas are no longer a part of the moderators concerns.
I moderate several boards now & this one is the least strict by a long shot. The members voted & the majority wanted it this way.
~BTL

P.S.
Cross-linking to another board however is not allowed. If you want to discuss something,...do it here.

[sayloc]

yushan

I know 18 did not mean any harm. I understand why he would defend his friend. It just seemed like he let the other guy reel him in.

Sorry if I came accross the wrong way.

If I am not mistaken 18 has given me some good info in the past and I appreciate it.

I still think that ignoring negative posts without any real substance behind them is the best way to cut out a lot of
useless chatter back and forth. Let them say what they want and that will be the end.

That way I can get to the informative posts faster!

Have a good day

[yu shan]

sayloc

no worries, I know where your coming from. I`ve told this person not to give merit to this behavior. 18-Elders is a great guy, short on communications here, but will talk your ear off about Mantis in person. He is my gongfu brother, he likes to talk, I like to walk. This being said, 18 backs up his stuff!

Mika

I appreciate tuff guys, they will hopefully improve me... and make me study that much harder.

[Mika]

Originally posted by BeiTangLang
Hidden agendas are no longer a part of the moderators concerns.
I moderate several boards now & this one is the least strict by a long shot. The members voted & the majority wanted it this way.
~BTL

BTL, then I am mistaken. I should come here more often so I would know what I am talking about. Making assumptions is dangerous, and I take responsibility for my words. If the members have decided to deal with any hidden agendas themselves, that's how it is. My bad...

By the way, when and where did this voting take place? A link to a thread, maybe?

Cheers :)

//mika