big news out of oz russellsherry

[russellsherry]

hi guys someone has left someone cant say much but in 6 mouths, could be earlth shatering news peace russellsherry

[anerlich]

.... and I'll bet whoever told you said "but don't tell anyone" (nudge nudge wink wink).

Russell, come on, spill it ... you know you want to,otherwise why post? :)

[S.Teebas]

so.... are you going to say what it is??

[yuanfen]

Organizational issues? Someone exiting TWC?
How is that big news.?
Organizations rise and fall.
The beauty is in the art.

[reneritchie]

Is this just a tease or are we taking bets? I'll go with What is Dana Wong being removed from William Cheung's website, Alex!

(though if its that, its kinda yesterday...)

[anerlich]

"Organizations rise and fall.
The beauty is in the art."

Very nice, Joy. Two more syllables and you have a haiku. How about


Organizations rise and fall.
The beauty is in the art.
Wing Chun.

[anerlich]

Rene, what website are you looking at?

Dana's still up on www.cheungswingchun.com.

[reneritchie]

Dunno, maybe they put him back up? Or maybe I'm just nuts? I'm still guessing that's the news, though I'm not sure its earth shattering beyond OZ? (Unless he's hooking up with Leung Ting?)

[yuanfen]

Anerlich-
thanks for the haiku.
Great!

[anerlich]

You wrote 15/17ths of it!

Very "Zen" the way it came about too.

Rene:


I'm not sure its earth shattering beyond OZ

I'm not sure it's earth shattering outside Melbourne. I've heard from other sources that it may well be true.


Unless he's hooking up with Leung Ting?

Now THAT would be sensational and EXTREMELY unlikely. Like Saddam Hussein becoming a registered Republican.

Maybe it's not too late for Dubya to demand that as another condition for not turning Iraq into a smoking hole in the ground.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by anerlich
I'm not sure it's earth shattering outside Melbourne. I've heard from other sources that it may well be true.

Now THAT would be sensational and EXTREMELY unlikely. Like Saddam Hussein becoming a registered Republican.

Maybe it's not too late for Dubya to demand that as another condition for not turning Iraq into a smoking hole in the ground.
150,000 Americans are of Iraqi origin. I don't know their party affiliations (many are Republican), but we'll be careful as possible not to destroy Iraq as its current regime has.

I think the big news from Oz is that you're joining the coalition of the willing to give the Saddamites the boot. Too bad about the two weasels on America's borders. If we need the oil, they're next. :p

Regards,

[Matrix]

Originally posted by Grendel
Too bad about the two weasels on America's borders. If we need the oil, they're next. :p Now, now...play nice.:rolleyes:

[Stevo]

I think the big news from Oz is that you're joining the coalition of the willing to give the Saddamites the boot. Too bad about the two weasels on America's borders. If we need the oil, they're next.

Just to set the record straight, almost 80% of Australians are 'weasels' who don't want any part of this stinking war and are disgusted at being dragged into it by our subservient Prime Minister.

[reneritchie]

What's this, a WCK political thread ruined by.... <gasp> actual politics!!

Anerlich - Exactly. No offense, but beyond TWC and OZ, I'm not sure most even know the players or are effected at all by their various organizational transformations. I'm sure it will effect the students of those involved, and hopefully they will make it through whatever stress this puts them under, and can continue on healthy and happy.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by Stevo

Just to set the record straight, almost 80% of Australians are 'weasels' who don't want any part of this stinking war and are disgusted at being dragged into it by our subservient Prime Minister.
Would it not be ironic, unlike rain on your wedding day, which isn't, if Iraq wound up with a more democratic government than Australia. Sad that the 80% of the remaining folks have forgotten the lesson of those who died in the bombings in Bali.

As for William Cheung and Leung Ting getting together, stranger things have happened. Or, has the thread reached consensus on the true big news and I missed it?

Regards,

[reneritchie]

The "big news" is supposedly that Dana Wong has split from William Cheung, which while not earth-shaking for those of us outside their lineage, is probably akin to when Rick Spain split, or when Emin Boztepe left Leung Ting.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by reneritchie
The "big news" is supposedly that Dana Wong has split from William Cheung, which while not earth-shaking for those of us outside their lineage, is probably akin to when Rick Spain split, or when Emin Boztepe left Leung Ting.
Dang it, Rene, you've taken the mystery out of the thread. :p What was the relationship between Dana Wong and William Cheung?

[Sandman2[Wing Chun]]

Originally posted by Grendel

Dang it, Rene, you've taken the mystery out of the thread. :p What was the relationship between Dana Wong and William Cheung?

http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Profile.DWong.html

This might be helpful.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by Sandman2[Wing Chun]


http://www.cheungswingchun.com/Profile.DWong.html

This might be helpful.
So Dana is a guy! That may explain the split that Rene mentioned. :rolleyes: Different strokes for different folks, I almost never say.

From the link, Dana Wong looks like he will have no trouble when he sets out on his own. Was that really the news?

Does this mean a William Cheung and Leung Ting hook-up now has a chance?

There's so little of interest in the news these days. :( These pithy discussions keep our interest. :)

[anerlich]

Dana did run the World Headquarters of the WWCKFA in Melbourne. So it might be a little bit more of an organisational issue than the departure of some others.

AS Rene said, good luck to all.

I regret that I made the initial link between one of the world's less significant events with what may become one of the most significant.

As for Dubya and or own supplicant PM, john Howard, I find it sickening that the populations of our two countries are being lectured on morality by two of the most obviously silvertailed, cynical, xenophobic political opportunists who ever lived.

As th saying goes, fighting for peace is like f***ing for virginity.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by anerlich
Dana did run the World Headquarters of the WWCKFA in Melbourne. So it might be a little bit more of an organisational issue than the departure of some others.

AS Rene said, good luck to all.

Let me add my congratulations as well. :p Running a large organization must be hard work. Better others than me.


I regret that I made the initial link between one of the world's less significant events with what may become one of the most significant.

Farkle 'em if they can't take a joke. :D


As for Dubya and or own supplicant PM, john Howard, I find it sickening that the populations of our two countries are being lectured on morality by two of the most obviously silvertailed, cynical, xenophobic political opportunists who ever lived.

I couldn't find silvertailed in the dictionary, but I get your drift. :)


As th saying goes, fighting for peace is like f***ing for virginity. I've always heard that the greater notion is turning the other cheek. Perhaps it reveals my moral imperfection that I can't always agree with it. :D

God bless you Aussies and thanks for all the fish.

Regards,

[anerlich]

I couldn't find silvertailed in the dictionary

It's a neologism of my own invention :cool:

[Stevo]

Would it not be ironic, unlike rain on your wedding day, which isn't, if Iraq wound up with a more democratic government than Australia.

Ironic that Australia's government has acted undemocratically in a rush to kowtow to America.

Probably a bit simplistic to think that we can impose a democracy on Iraq and that all will be well. Even moderate Arabs will resent the presence of an American occupation force and will be suspicious of any new Iraqi government OK'd by America. The whole Middle East is very likely to be destabilised by this war and its consequences. Learn the lesson of what's happening now in Afghanistan.

Sad that the 80% of the remaining folks have forgotten the lesson of those who died in the bombings in Bali.

Invoking those who died in Bali as a cause for war is offensive. If anything, this war will greatly increase the likelihood of further terrorist acts against Australia and Australians.

There's no link between Iraq and what happened in Bali. The only lesson that can be drawn from attempts to illustrate such a link is a testament to the relationship between propaganda and gullibility. Until now, Iraq and Al Qaeda have been enemies. Now Osama Bin Laden will milk the Iraqi situation for all it's worth, and the ranks of his martyrs will swell.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by Stevo
[Ironic that Australia's government has acted undemocratically in a rush to kowtow to America.

We set the example for OZ 200 years ago. You should have followed us then. :p


Probably a bit simplistic to think that we can impose a democracy on Iraq and that all will be well.

Sounds like a racist viewpoint. All humans yearn for freedom. Would you let the madmen continue to run the asylum there? I guess you've already answered that. :( Others see it differently such as the author of this Times article, Labour MP for Cynon Valley, Ann Clwyd:
See men shredded, then say you don't back war (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3284-614607,00.html)

Can't we do something for Saddam's victims, essentially all of his subjects?


Even moderate Arabs will resent the presence of an American occupation force and will be suspicious of any new Iraqi government OK'd by America. The whole Middle East is very likely to be destabilised by this war and its consequences.

And destabilizing these tinpot dictatorships is bad? Too much socialism in your mindset. Besides, what's so stable about the situation now? Name a moderate Arab regime. :rolleyes:


Learn the lesson of what's happening now in Afghanistan.

Yes, indeed. Don't harbor terrorists or you'll be killed.


[B]Invoking those who died in Bali as a cause for war is offensive.

No. Cowardly acts of terrorism against innocents are what's offensive.


If anything, this war will greatly increase the likelihood of further terrorist acts against Australia and Australians.

B.S. Did they not teach you any history in your government run school? War never solves anything, right? :rolleyes: They'll be less afraid of you if you don't get involved.

I predict that it's France and Germany that are going to feel the brunt of terrorism. With their overt Islamo-fascist ties and anti-Jewish attitudes, they already look the other way at terrorist activity in their heartland, but that approch will be suicidal over time with the ties that the Islamists are forming with old line Marxists such as Bader-Meinhoff.


There's no link between Iraq and what happened in Bali. The only lesson that can be drawn from attempts to illustrate such a link is a testament to the relationship between propaganda and gullibility. Until now, Iraq and Al Qaeda have been enemies. Now Osama Bin Laden will milk the Iraqi situation for all it's worth, and the ranks of his martyrs will swell.
Who says there's no link? So, you're putting your faith and trust in OSL? Open your eyes. If there's a lesson here, it's defend yourselves 'cause you can't depend on the good graces of others.

[Sandman2[Wing Chun]]

Ok guys let's drop the political/war discussion. There's plenty of space over in the main forum if you would like to discuss it with each other.