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dre_doggX
07-31-2001, 05:14 PM
Which do you like better Wingchun or Chen Style Tai chi chuan.

Andre Lashley

Shaolindynasty
07-31-2001, 05:50 PM
Wing Chun is too popular for me. Everybody and their mom practices it.

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TjD
07-31-2001, 07:50 PM
hey! my mom doesnt practice wing chun

YOUR mom practices wing chun

just pick whichever you can find a better teacher for :) thats the hard part (finding a good teacher)

peace
trav

Receive what comes, Escort what leaves, and if there is an opening, rush in

chi-kwai
07-31-2001, 11:34 PM
I have studied wing chun for three years. i have always been against diluting my studies by taking more than one style, but if i were to do so, i would take chen style tai ji.

if in fact you are taking tai chi for combative purposes, and you are more comfortable with the long movements, take this art. else, if you feel straight forward, close quarters fighting is your bag, go with WC.

no matter what you take, its only as effective as the practioner allows it to be. studying an art is a personal choice. you should read up on both styles and decide which is best for your physique and mindset.

--
chi kwai

Nexus
08-01-2001, 12:16 AM
Just a warning.. If you are going to start taiji, make sure you are not starting off by learning the 24-movement YCF form. In fact, you would be safe to stay away from Yang Cheng-Fu all together and go for the Yang Lu ch'uan long form, or Chen style.

The reason being is that YCF developed his forms for health for the Chinese government, so elder people and unhealthy people could practice it. It is lacking a lot of the fa-jing movements (Explosive movements).

Go Chen style or Yang if they emphasize martial applications or Wing Chun if it appears to be good. But if you are looking for any martial arts abilities unless you are confident that the taiji instructor you plan on attending is qualified.

Remember that with any martial arts, you should be learning martial applications from day 1!

In taiji, you should learn how to punch early on, in the first 2 months, usually after you learn qi gong meditation.

Hope that helps,

- Nexus

Freedom is what you do with what is done to you. - Sartres

brassmonkey
08-01-2001, 05:26 AM
"The reason being is that YCF developed his forms for health for the Chinese
government, so elder people and unhealthy people could practice it. It is lacking
a lot of the fa-jing movements (Explosive movements)."
I think someone's been reading and worse yet believing what Earle Montaigue has on his site. YCF's form lacks fa jing but is the form everything there is to this system? Of course not, Yang practioneer's do auxillary exercises for fa jing. Fa jing isn't as big of a deal as so many here would make you believe in my beginner opinion

Crimson Phoenix
08-01-2001, 07:01 AM
Yang, like all taiji, has fajing...every serious TCMA has fajing, they have different theories of issuing power, but they all have it!
Nexus was just appropriately warning people against these PRC created forms of taiji that have no martial value left and that are at the base of the taiji=elderly gymnastics prejudice...
Anyway, Andre, I got a major sweet spot for Chen taiji, so if I were you, I'd rush there without losing time!

Phoenix

Nexus
08-02-2001, 06:57 AM
Erle Montaigue happens to be a friend of mine and if you ever practiced with the guy you wouldn't badmouth his experience. In 30 years you may see things eye to eye with what some people who have been it that long have to say. Until then, we can all be considered ignorant of certain aspects.

Believe what you want, but if you don't properly train, in just 10 years you would know if you were grasping the internal or not.

My two cents.

- Nexus

Freedom is what you do with what is done to you. - Sartres