tparkerkfo
04-22-2003, 11:58 AM
Just thought I would point out some things. I notice many buzzwords are used a lot I see these terms in many posts:
Logic
Proof
Scientific
Openmindness
Closeminded
Political
The first thing is I have only seen a couple people that have shown any logic in their posts. It seems that if one is going to use these terms, they should atleast understand what they are. The ones that get me the most are the logic and scientific terms. They are used all around and yet the discussions are not logical at all. The premise is wrong in almost all of them as it the conclusion.
Proof. There is a big difference in proof and historical documentation vs oral tradition. Most things in wing chun can not be proven, at least not easily. People should really consider their proof. Speculation and theory is one thing, but proof is a different matter.
Then there is political comments. Anytime some one doesn't agree with some one else, they take it personal. Charges of being political or having an agenda is thrown around. What is ones agenda? Disagreeing means nothing about ones agenda or political. I don't think people understand what they are saying and are just throwing around terms. I guess people feel threatened and hate to be questioned. But the best things stand the test of time and inquiry. heck, Yip Man said that he might be decieving and one should test it for themselves. Why is this limited to the hands. Maybe it meant more than that. Check out the history as independantly verifiable.
Why I care, I don't know. I won't change any minds. The bickering, challenging, posturing, name calling, bantering, subversion, undermining, trolling, etc wont stop. No one will accept any proof contrary to what one beleives even if Yip Man was to raise out of the grave and deny or affirm things himself. LOL. This forum will continue to degrade most topics into a waste of space and only a few small gems will surface here and there.
Too much heat and not enough light
Tom
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BODY SCIENCE (http://bodyscience.ws/)
Logic
Proof
Scientific
Openmindness
Closeminded
Political
The first thing is I have only seen a couple people that have shown any logic in their posts. It seems that if one is going to use these terms, they should atleast understand what they are. The ones that get me the most are the logic and scientific terms. They are used all around and yet the discussions are not logical at all. The premise is wrong in almost all of them as it the conclusion.
Proof. There is a big difference in proof and historical documentation vs oral tradition. Most things in wing chun can not be proven, at least not easily. People should really consider their proof. Speculation and theory is one thing, but proof is a different matter.
Then there is political comments. Anytime some one doesn't agree with some one else, they take it personal. Charges of being political or having an agenda is thrown around. What is ones agenda? Disagreeing means nothing about ones agenda or political. I don't think people understand what they are saying and are just throwing around terms. I guess people feel threatened and hate to be questioned. But the best things stand the test of time and inquiry. heck, Yip Man said that he might be decieving and one should test it for themselves. Why is this limited to the hands. Maybe it meant more than that. Check out the history as independantly verifiable.
Why I care, I don't know. I won't change any minds. The bickering, challenging, posturing, name calling, bantering, subversion, undermining, trolling, etc wont stop. No one will accept any proof contrary to what one beleives even if Yip Man was to raise out of the grave and deny or affirm things himself. LOL. This forum will continue to degrade most topics into a waste of space and only a few small gems will surface here and there.
Too much heat and not enough light
Tom
________
BODY SCIENCE (http://bodyscience.ws/)