OT : rant over an incident at lunch

[prana]

Hey all

I was sitting in fast food restaurant today (not Mc-D's). This lady and her mother came into the restaurant.

So long story short, she trips and falls on her side. I am out of my chair to attend to her whilst her daughter is still turning around to find her mother on the floor. No one else moved, except for the waitresses.

Now, she lies on the floor.. She remains lying down while her daughter is speechless, stunt. I look at her and her daughter, and I sit back down cause she looked like she wanted to remain on the floor for a while. Pretty silly of me I know.

Anyway, a few more moments passed, and they ask for my help to lift her up. I helped them, now everyones looking at the incident.

I have this strange suspicion that the mumbling afterwards (between mother and daughter) was them trying to find a case for a lawsuit. Now I work in a sort of "city" area and the people there are horrible, and I would expect that sort of behaviour there.

I know I wouldnt have helped a person who has purposely fallen so that they can get an insurance payout (I am not sure if I have and if I have, I feel horrible...)( if I havent, I feel bad making this post... and am a paranoid little jerk)

sorry, just had to rant...

I wonder if I should go to the authorities and speak up if I find that restaurant suddenly in trouble.... and give them evidence based on what ? My feelings ?!? This sux.. I hate Western Law...

[Serpent]

We all hate western law most of the time, but at least some of the more frivolous lawsuits in this country are getting turned over. Common sense occasionally prevails. I think that as a country we are desperate not to make the kind of mess of litigation that the US has. That's certainly a model for how not to do it!

Don't stress it, Prana. If the restaurant does get sued, do you know for certain that it was staged? If not, what can you do?

[bodhitree]

"mortals keep creating karma and mistakenly insist that theres no retribution. but can they deny there suffering? Can they deny that what the present state of mind sows the next state of mind reaps?Don't misconceive Karma." Bodhidharma

[MasterKiller]

On the flip side, I worked at a retail office supply store after college. During the X-mas season, we would sell these gel-filled paper weights, kinda like "snow globes."

One day, a customer broke one of the globes, and figuring they would have to pay for it, stuck it behind a shelf out of sight. The gel leaked down the shelf and onto the floor, where an old lady (83) slipped and broke her hip. She eventually died from an infection caused by the break.

We didn't get sued, but her husband won a bucket-load from the manufacturer of the paper-weights.

[Shaolin-Do]

I accidentally ****ed in the book store. People 4 isles over were grumbling.
Oops.
Guess I just didnt know my internal strength.
:)

If she sues... Is the restaraunt a major corporation? If so then they probably did worse to get where they are. Small family owned? I would definately speak up if something happened.

[Shaolin-Do]

WTF? it doesnt let you say F A R T E D?

[Guile]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shaolin-Do
[B]I accidentally ****ed in the book store. People 4 isles over were grumbling.
Oops.
Guess I just didnt know my internal strength.
:)

Beans?:D

[dezhen2001]

prana mate - i know u will do the right thing whatever happens :) pretty gewd reactions though buddy, remind me not to sit near you for dim sum or else there will be no food left near me :D

dawood

[SaMantis]

prana, you don't have to go to the authorities. They'll probably just look at you funny because, since it's not a criminal case, there's nothing they can do.

if it bothers you though, you can go to the restaurant and let them know you were present during the incident, leave them your name and number if they ask for it. That way, if a suit is filed, the restaurant's attorneys can ask for a deposition from you. (Basically they just ask what you saw happen.)

If it goes before a judge, your account would have some weight in deciding if the suit is frivolous (or has merit).

very nice of you to help though :)

[apoweyn]

prana,

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Think about it. If you fell over in front of a big crowd of people, wouldn't you also walk off mumbling something incriminating about the floor?

When I was in college, the liberal arts building had a loading dock on the back. One day, I was leaving by that exit and it was pouring rain. There's a nice looking girl chaining up her bike right there, to boot. She smiles at me. I smile back. (You know, that terribly suave smile a guy sports at a time like that.) And I promptly fall down the stairs.

The girl comes over to ask if I'm alright. And what do I say, in all my suaveness? "Yeah, I'm fine. I injured my ankle working out yesterday."

Working out?! Ugh.

People say stupid sh-t when they're embarassed. I'd bet my guts to garters it was just empty talk to allay feeling like an idiot. (And I'd make the same bet that it didn't help much.)

Indignity makes us do silly things.


Stuart B.

[prana]

very Kung Fu of all of you !

Serpent : nope, too bad I dont know for certain, but I shall definitely work the ropes if I find them suddenly closed doors. Although my missus and myself agree their "step" should be flattened somewhat cause someday, an innocent person would trip on it :( Appreciate your thoughts bud...

bodhitree : woow. :cool: its like you are talking straight at me without having to do so. Might have somethign to do witht eh word "Karma". Very appropriate indeed ...

MasterKiller : unfortunate :( Although I believe money can help certain people, I feel it is difficult to justify the relationship with money versus teaching the corporate a lesson. I think it is easy, for people to justify emotional hurt with greed. And yes, unfortunately, we all do it to, even if its to a minute extent.

Shaolin-Do : a small Vietnamese Restaurant, not the friendliest people in the world but nice hard working people nevertheless. That is some awesome ****-gong there m8t :p

Dawood : hehehe avoiding me already ? Dont worry, I'm not vicious at all :D ... just a clumsy boring fool...


SaMantis : I have lunch there at least twice a week. I think I will keep my eye out and if somethign happens, then speak up. Appreciate the support.

apoweyn : very empathetic of you indeed, and answer from the other side of the coin. Does make the situation less painful to review and bring understanding. You a good wise man !




I just felt crabby and thanks for letting me rant. It's a learning experience and good to hear all your thoughts. I am still puzzled by why the daughter just stared into blank space instead of helping her mother up onto a chair.... when she looked at me, she almost grinned.... anyway, I will keep my eye open and your thoughts in mind.

[dezhen2001]

nah not avoiding you - but im already doing a good job saying as im continents away... :D just better make sure im not at the same table as BOTH you and joedoe - i want some food too aye? :p:)

dawood

[shaolinboxer]

" Now I work in a sort of "city" area and the people there are horrible, and I would expect that sort of behaviour there. "

I live in the city...what is that supposed to mean?

[shaolin kungfu]

People in my city are nice enough. But then again, I do live in wisconsin. The constant flow of beer and cheese keeps people pretty happy.

[prana]

symptom of identity.

Guys, I am not saying people in the city, but people in THIS city ie. not Manhattan ! Dont get all personal, things can be interpreted in many ways, ... relax.

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

i would have kicked her, but i'm hardcore.

[apoweyn]

prana,


apoweyn : very empathetic of you indeed, and answer from the other side of the coin. Does make the situation less painful to review and bring understanding. You a good wise man !

I must be. Who else could tell a story about falling down a flight of stairs in front of a hottie and still get praised for it.

:)

Seriously, cheers. I think you did just fine, mate.


Stuart B.

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by GunnedDownAtrocity
i would have kicked her, but i'm hardcore.


LOL!

DAAAAAMN! That's Old School!!


Stuart B.

[GreyMystik]

i can't say for sure where you are , but in tx, here's the deal. if you have a 'slip and fall', it is on you to prove that the owner/staff of the place were negligent...
what this means in essence is that if you slip and fall, you have to be able to prove that 1) it was an environmental problem, 2) that it was not remedied in a timely fashion, and 3) that the management knew about it and chose NOT to act.
#3 is the hardest one to prove.
i had a slip and fall in july '88, broke my leg after slipping on a bar floor, but after calling around town, there wasn't much i could do...no lawyer thought i stood much of a chance. so i wouldn't worry too much about the lawsuit.

[MasterKiller]

he hem...


I believe that's pronounced Old Skool

:)

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by MasterKiller
he hem...


I believe that's pronounced Old Skool

:)

I'm guessing that you're substantially younger than me. And therefore, a much more reliable voice of authority on this issue. So I'm going to defer to you on this one and refer to it from this day forth as 'Old Skool.'

Or to put it another way: Word.


:)

[dezhen2001]

or: Werd Up! :D

dawood

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by dezhen2001
or: Werd Up! :D

dawood


You guys are going to have to make me a glossary or something.

:)


Stooert B.

[dezhen2001]

hehehe, maybe ask diego or something ;)

dewd.

[MasterKiller]

dezhen2001,

From one O.G. to another, that was fresh, ill, and def, all at the same time.

Don't make me break out my Flavor Flav clock-necklace.

Cuz I will.


Really.


I will.

[apoweyn]

dawood,

Apropos of nothing, I thought I'd mention that I'll be coming back to England in August for my aunt's wedding. I realize you're hell and gone from Lincoln, so it's not like we'd get to hang or anything. But I'm excited about it and figured I'd share.

So... there you have it.


Stuart B.

[dezhen2001]

Masterkiller: dope ;)

Ap: well depending on if im coming back to Uni, im not all THAT far from Lincoln, around 1 hr on a train.

dawood

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by dezhen2001
Masterkiller: dope ;)

Ap: well depending on if im coming back to Uni, im not all THAT far from Lincoln, around 1 hr on a train.

dawood


Hmm... Well, I'll tell ya what. I'll let you know as our plans proceed and maybe we can get together for a pint or something, yeah?


Stuart B.

[dezhen2001]

i dont drink (muslim)... but for sure let me know and im sure we can arrange something :)

dawood

[apoweyn]

Alright, then. A cornish pasty (the perfect food) and a bag of crisps?

:)

[dezhen2001]

getting better... :D

dawood