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Shaolin-Do
04-23-2003, 02:07 PM
http://www.northernmantis.com/image...bopops/bb43.jpg

Out of the mantis Ive learned thus far, this is the only thing that I havent come to understand yet.
If anyone knows the application of this stance, please let me know.
Thanks,
SD

mantisben
04-23-2003, 03:00 PM
When transitioning from the left 7* stance in the picture before the one you posted, into the right 7* stance in the next picture you posted, it can be a low side-kick to the side of the knee, or a stomp to the instep or ankle. However, it may not be as effective stomping your opponents instep or ankle if he is wearing Timberland Boots.

As for the movements together - meaning both the picture with the posture with the left 7* stance and the Mantis Hook, then the straight punch with the right 7* stance - the right straight punch could be a lead "fake" into the low side-kick to the knee. Executed properly, it works on your opponent even with his Timberland boots on...

I'd like to add that many PM stylist can "trip" someone with this stance. Although I know the application of the "trip" I can't apply it effectively.

Yet...

northernJump
04-23-2003, 04:18 PM
from the same form pictures
http://www.northernmantis.com/images/bungbopops/bb39.jpg
is an example of using 7* to trip. The extended leg is hooked behind the opponents leg while the palm strike to the hip combined with a pull with the left hand are used to throw the opponent. So I quess its more of a thow than a trip. Thats the interpretation I have learnt - there may well be others.

mantisben
04-23-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by northernJump
from the same form pictures
http://www.northernmantis.com/images/bungbopops/bb39.jpg
is an example of using 7* to trip. The extended leg is hooked behind the opponents leg while the palm strike to the hip combined with a pull with the left hand are used to throw the opponent. So I quess its more of a thow than a trip. Thats the interpretation I have learnt - there may well be others.

To me, a throw is more of a powerful repelling, or slamming of the opponent than a trip.

Still, you are right. It is more of a throw when used in this technique. But when I execute this technique, my opponent is never thrown to the floor. They usually just kind of stumble... I just haven't got the mechanics of turning it into a throw.

Yet...