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chongnoi67
05-05-2003, 09:25 AM
Does anyone know where I can get a custom pair of wing chun swords made?? Looking for a really nice pair and interested if anyone has any experience in this area. Thanks.

canglong
05-05-2003, 09:42 AM
One of my sihings makes custom knives. If you contact the kwoon I am sure they would be happy to put you in touch with him.

Kwoon link (http://www.mengsofaz.com/)

wingchunalex
05-05-2003, 10:35 AM
wing lam enterprises makes custom kung fu weapons. their stuff looks really nice and well made. they can make them however you ask them to. i think they range from $300 to $500 for butterfly swords. they have a website but i don't know it off the top of my head

chongnoi67
05-05-2003, 12:47 PM
I have already talked with Wing LAm. the combat wing chun swords they offer are very nice quality, but have 14" blades-longer than I want and also I want the traditional tear drop shape but with a little swedge added to make a point. Their combat custom ones cost $575. If I was to get a pair made by them to my specs, I was told would cost between $1100-$2000.

I am trying to find a custom pair made to my specs for around $400-$700 range. Thanks.

tparkerkfo
05-05-2003, 01:54 PM
I too would recommend wing lam. He makes some pretty nice knives. Yes they are quite expensive, but think about it this way, you only need one dummy and one set of knives. Be gald your not studying Hung Gar. LOL.

Wing Lam has held some weapon making seminars were you basically make your own weapon. He helps you out. It sounds like a good deal, I'll probably attend one. Much of the work is just labor, which makes the cost go up drastically. Polishing takes a while. So if you look into these events, you might be able to save a lot, if you in the area or can get away for a weekend.

Tom
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Phil Redmond
05-05-2003, 07:20 PM
I know this thread is about custom made BJD. But some of you might want to look into real combat ready BJD. My WC brother and I are distributors for Cold Steel. Anyone familiar with Cold Steel knives will know they are well made. These BJD will cut through flesh and bone.
http://www.coldsteel.com/index-b.html
Phil

chongnoi67
05-05-2003, 09:40 PM
Nice web page for cold steel and nice butterfly swords and good price, but again the 15" blades are too long. I am looking for more of a 10" blades. and also more of a rounder handle and hook. WLE does very nice work and I may be tempted to shell out the $1000+ to have a custom set made and wait a year. MAy have to go to some local knife makers with my pattern and see what they can do. THanks. Still appreciate it if anyone has any ideas.

Phil Redmond
05-06-2003, 05:20 AM
The BJD blade length should be the distance from the elbow to the knuckles of a closed fist. I hope this helps.
PR

chongnoi67
05-06-2003, 09:57 AM
Don't know exactly where you got your info about blades suppose to be from elbow to knuckles in length. Don't really want to debate that as you are entitiled to your own desire. BUt, I prefer a shorter blade. Easier to manuever in real combat with out cutting ones self and also easier to conceal. THe Blades I used to learn with in Hong Kong were 10-11 inches in length and I personally know that my teacher (no it is not LIng Teung of Wing tsun Fame) was one of about 6 who learned the BJD from Yip MAn. But again, this post is not about that. It is about where I can get a pair of custom wing chun swords built to my specifications here in the USA. IF any body has information regarding that I again would appreciate it. I guess I will maybe just have to go to several custom knife makers and see what they can do for me. Thanks again.

tparkerkfo
05-06-2003, 10:07 AM
Here are some interesting thoughts. How do we know what the length of the knives should be and what dictated that? I wonder if there were custome knife makers in HK and Futsan that custom built peoples Baat Cham Do's? Or did the masters just use what ever was at hand? MOST Butterfly knives I have seen are much larger variety. This includes the ones from other lineages and even in futsan. I beleive even the pair in Yip Man pictures are a larger variety. But is this what he prefered or had at hand due to availibility?

Not suggesting anything, just wondering about the differences in the knives. Has anyone hunted for them in China? Are there are wide variety availible?

My understanding is that the knives should be on the shorter side, close to the length of the forarms. I was told that you should be able to hold the knive in place when someone pushes on the blade, assuming the blade is not sharp. The wrist should not buckle with the pressure. Too long knives will create too much leverage, so you want them a little smaller and heaver.

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chongnoi67
05-06-2003, 11:00 AM
Again, I really am not interested in debates about style of wing chun, what the blades lengths should be, who my teacher was or who was yours, what other wing chun practioneers are using, etc... That is all for another post.

I am interested if anyone knows where I can get a custom pair of wing chun swords made for myself and for some of my students. I have been using a pair from Custom Craftsmen for 5 years, but I want a pair with shorter blades and thicker blades. Thanks.

pakua student
05-06-2003, 03:40 PM
Try this link. http://www.wingchun.ca/wcat/AboutWcatsButterfly.html

Patrick Gordon
05-12-2003, 10:21 AM
Check this website: http://www.little-raven.com/RS/MA/

Carina makes fantastic sword. I just had a shipment of 11 pairs sent to me just last week. I purchased a pair made out of purpleheart, about three years ago. Haven't seen a nicer pair, everyone really likes them. Tell her Patrick from up in Canada sent you. Good luck and I hope she has what your looking for.

Patrick Gordon.