Hard Qi-Gong in Martial Art

[The_Student]

Hi,

After reading the following article I got some thoughts :confused:

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezi...php?article=338 --- abit down in the text.

Questions then:

1. How much harder is a coconut than a brick to break, and have someone on this forum manages that??

2. They meantion to throw needels, someone that have this skill, and whant to share some info. The size of the needle, hit to throw it etc...

3. Have someone suffer from thier iron hand training and if yes, in which way and why(if possible).

Thanks :cool:

[dezhen2001]

sorry i cant asnwer your quesitons much, but

1, Never tried either :)
2. dont know about it
3. never had any problems - but only been trianing 2 years.

dawood

[The_Student]

Hmm,

1. how does you practise your iron fist/palm and in which style.
2. Do you know of any website that meantion things about this matters, that should be great then :)

Thanks :cool:

[dezhen2001]

the skill i train does not really split things up in to "iron palm" or "iron shirt" and all these names - we just train the whole body together... right now for example i am mainly training my stance, back, fingers, stomach and head... all together as one.

im sorry i dont know any good websites that explain how to train these - the best is to ask yor teacher and follow what he says. It can be dangerous and cause an injury if you do it wrong...

take care :)
dawood

[foolinthedeck]

michael just calls it 'hard qigong' doesnt he, he doesnt give it any more of a chinese name than that...

for what its worth sigong Tse is good, and he glows, and looks like he is filled with qi, i never got to study hard qigong with him. but i appreciate the skill.

hi david!

[dezhen2001]

hehehehe, thats coz it trains all different parts of the body, Also theres 2 different skills taught "heavenly river monastery" hard qigong and also "Ermei 7 stars" hard qigong.

i was lucky enough to be behind the scenes at seni a couple of years ago when he did a kung fu and hard qigong demo... ive never seen someone just take off his top and walk out on to the stage to get so mashed up, and come back radiating pure energy :D

dawod

[GeneChing]

Here it is again. (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=338)

As to your questions:
1. Depends on the brick and the coconut. I'm told greener coconuts are harder and there's all sorts of stuff on brick density and hardness grades.

2. Throwing needles are generally akin to a small nail. There are overt and covert techniques. I'm a horrible throw - can't even throw chopsticks - so I'd hesitate to comment on the techniques.

3. I'm allergic to dit da jow so I can't train in most traditional systems of iron palm. It wasn't always so. It was the result of an overexposure after an injury. Now I cna't use any such liniments.

[dezhen2001]

Gene: thats sucky about being allergic to jow... kinda reminds me of obelix falling in the vat of magic potion :D

dawood

[GeneChing]

And I thought my job was tough...:rolleyes:

Photos: This man is a 'professional victim' who gets walloped for a living (http://shanghaiist.com/2014/04/11/photos_this_man_is_a_professional_v.php)

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_shanghaiist/professional-victim-1.png

Forty-eight-year-old Xie Shui Ping holds down no ordinary, nine to five job: He is a "professional victim" who gets hit and beaten up for a living. Over the course of 13 years on the job, he has taken a total of 100,000 punches, according to china.com.cn.

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_shanghaiist/professional-victim-2.png

He stumbled into the profession in 2001 with a modest performance that showed off his rudimentary knowledge of kungfu. Since then, most of his shows have taken place in bars, pubs and nightclubs in Guangdong city. He considers himself as one of the people who depend on entertaining the nightlife crowd for a living, such as singers, acrobats or freak show actors.

Mr Xie has a regular audience base, and from his nightly appearances is able to earn an income within a range of a few hundred to a few thousand.
http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_shanghaiist/professional-victim-3.png

Forget smacking inanimate objects to destress. The ones who hit him range from the curious ones who want to try out how it feels to be able to unabashedly pummel another, the youths who are looking for an outlet to vent their stress and anger, or even the drunkards that are high on alcohol.

While Xie assures potential employers that they will not be held responsible for any injuries that he sustains, many of them, especially the nightclub owners, still express safety concerns. As such, the venues who do eventually engage him are quite limited.

What makes the journey such a lonely one for him is the low opinion that his family holds of his job. They feel that he is a husband and father who is unworthy of respect. But Xie continues adhering to the disciplined and regulated life of a professional victim. "I will be able to make it big one day," he says.

By Yuen Sin