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MasterKiller
05-14-2003, 06:31 AM
Well?

shaolin kungfu
05-14-2003, 06:40 AM
Morpheus, without a doubt.

Sho
05-14-2003, 07:11 AM
Mace Windu, of course. :rolleyes:

SaMantis
05-14-2003, 07:42 AM
yoda would kick both their butts.


:D

Ford Prefect
05-14-2003, 07:46 AM
Mace by force choke 2:10 Rd 1

Royal Dragon
05-14-2003, 08:51 AM
Royce would Choke all of them at once!!!























Sorry, had to say it :p

@PLUGO
05-14-2003, 09:56 AM
Oh com'ON....

SHAFT would win!!!

why?

'cause he's one BAD mo'fo!!!

MasterKiller
05-14-2003, 10:06 AM
shut yo mouf

Guile
05-14-2003, 11:32 AM
Neo would win

MasterKiller
05-14-2003, 11:39 AM
Obi-Wan would so own Neo.

firepalm
05-14-2003, 12:14 PM
Any Canadian hockey player would clean the ice with any of the aforementioned!:D

Xebsball
05-14-2003, 01:01 PM
on NHB rules, Mace wins
on Roshambo rules, Morpheus wins

Chang Style Novice
05-14-2003, 01:44 PM
I dunno, but Neil Gamain would (and should) kick George Lucas' tuchis.

taijiquan_student
05-14-2003, 06:41 PM
The Funk would kick all those jokers butts!!!

Serpent
05-14-2003, 06:58 PM
What about Ghyslain and his mad double light sabre skillz?

shaolin kungfu
05-14-2003, 07:00 PM
Royce would choke out ghyslain.

Laughing Cow
05-14-2003, 07:01 PM
Leia will take them both.
:D

Serpent
05-14-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by shaolin kungfu
Royce would choke out ghyslain.

How would Royce get in for the grapple past that whirling golf ball collector of death?

Chinwoo-er
05-14-2003, 08:46 PM
Trinity would wack leia across the room

Laughing Cow
05-14-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Chinwoo-er
Trinity would wack leia across the room

Trinity whacking the daughter of Darth Vader. I would like to see that.
:D

Serpent
05-14-2003, 09:14 PM
I'd rather see Trinity and Leia gettin' it on!

Kristoffer
05-15-2003, 03:32 AM
Morpheus is just a puny human with powers NO SKILL! Isn't Windu some sort of Jedi? With mind tricks and serious saber skills... Morpheus bites the dust, Matrix or not.

Sho
05-15-2003, 06:31 AM
Exactly. Mace Windu has actually _deserved_ his skills, unlike Morpheus.

Guile
05-15-2003, 06:40 AM
gotta see Matrix today!

Chinwoo-er
05-15-2003, 06:43 AM
Serpent..

Why do you have to mix sex and violence together ?? I mean, what's wrong with plain, simple, juicy violence ? You throw sex into the mix and what you get is a whole lotta mess :D

Chang Style Novice
05-15-2003, 08:18 AM
Morpheus is just a puny human with powers NO SKILL!

NUH-UH! (http://www.top100comics.de/images_comics/50_sandman.gif)

chen zhen
05-15-2003, 10:52 AM
batman would open a can of whoopazz on all of them :cool:

@PLUGO
05-15-2003, 01:06 PM
Good one Chang...

Just Saw RELOADED last night... :D

Morpheus has all the best lines...
just that alone has him whuppin' Windu...

in THE MATRIX they'd fight to a standstill

Out in a Galaxy Far Far Away... Windu would win...

Batman would of course do fine in either situation... unless it's the George Cluney BATMAN in which case Wolverine would chop him to bits...

is it time for another Movie charactor death match?

1st round:[list=1]
Wolverine vs. Blade

Neo vs. Law (Evil Jet Li in THE ONE)

Daredevil vs. Scorpion King

Elektra vs. Mystique

Morpheus vs. Darth Maul

Mace Windu vs. Agent Smith

Spiderman vs. Nightcrawler

Trinity vs. Deathstrike (from X2)

Bulletproof Monk vs. Bullseye

Batman vs. Hero (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/dvd40028.html) (jet li)
[/list=1]

norther practitioner
05-15-2003, 01:10 PM
I just want to see vin diesel get his arse kicked!

@PLUGO
05-15-2003, 01:13 PM
Oh yeah...

Let's throw in
[list=1]
XXX (vin diesel) vs. 007
[/list=1]

as well...

MasterKiller
05-15-2003, 01:13 PM
My money is on Darth Maul vs. anyone else.

norther practitioner
05-15-2003, 01:14 PM
My picks....

Fight:
1. Wolverine
2. In the matrix...neo... outside the matrix....law.
3. Unfortunately Dare Devil
4. Elektra
5. Darth Maul
6. See fight two.... Mace windu
7. Spidey
8. see fight two.....Deathstrike
9. The monk
10. Hero


007, he's been gettin' the girls longer.

Chang Style Novice
05-15-2003, 01:20 PM
first off, I haven't seen nearly enough of those movies to vote this round.

second off, why you got 11 matchups? Somebody's gonna get a bye next round.

winner of fight 1
vs.
winner of fight 2

winner of fight 3
vs
winner of fight 4

winner of fight 5
vs
winner of fight 6

winner of fight 7
vs
winner of fight 8

winner of fight 9
vs
winner of fight 10

winner of fight 11

But it doesn't end there!

winner of fight 1/2
vs
winner of fight 3/4

winner of fight 5/6
vs.
winner of fight 7/8

winner of fight 9/10

winner of fight 11

someone else gets a bye in the round after! And then...

winner of fight 1/2/3/4
vs.
winner of fight 5/6/7/8

winner of fight 9/10/11

a bye in the round after that! And that should be the finals!

You really need to keep your # of contenders to doubled up numbers; eg 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64

16 is pretty managable. Larger tournies than that just last forever.

Suntzu
05-15-2003, 01:21 PM
Shaft (Roundtree not Sam) vs Blackbelt Jones... hmmmm

chen zhen
05-15-2003, 01:41 PM
bruce lee vs. grizzly bear (from an old thread);)
darth vader vs. saruman (LOTR)
Black belt jones vs. supercop (jackie chan)
the hulk vs. yoda

blood will be spilled in gallons:D

@PLUGO
05-15-2003, 01:57 PM
Woah...

OK...

So let's ad

Shaft(old skool) vs. BlackBelt Jones as #12 (the winner will match off vs the winner of #11 XXX or 007)

#13:
bruce lee vs. grizzly bear



I also considered YODA vs. HULK but well... that should be a demo match as the power scale would Go TOOO far (IMO) same for
darth vader vs. saruman (LOTR)

So how about...

#14:
Legolas (LOTR) vs. IRON MONKEY


Also... Matrix charactors should fight IN THE MATRIX...

chen zhen
05-15-2003, 02:03 PM
Old man from drunken master vs. Mr Miyaki

@PLUGO
05-15-2003, 04:14 PM
Voting will comence with the list 14 opponents when this thred lands in the Media Pad...

With 2 demo boughts:




Heavy Weight(sort of)
Hulk vs. Yoda

Geriatric:
Old man from drunken master vs. Mr Miyaki

chen zhen
05-16-2003, 01:22 AM
The Hulk vs. Fat B@stard (from austin powers)

Kato vs. Black Mask

Drunken Master vs. General Fujita (fist of legend)

Texas Ranger vs. Billy Blanks
I have more coming up..:)

chen zhen
05-16-2003, 07:06 AM
Those were'nt that good. what about:

BB Jones vs. Texas Ranger

Van-Damme vs. Royce Gracie:eek:WTF

Saddam Hussein vs. Dubya:p

bruce lee vs. bizarro bruce lee

@PLUGO
05-16-2003, 10:08 AM
"Taste great" vs. "Less filling"

"Just Do it" vs. "Why ask Why"


yaaaawwwwnnnn

meanwhile:
My votes on the top 14 battleroyal...

[list=1]
Wolverine
Neo
Daredevil
Mystique
Darth Maul
Agent Smith
Spiderman
Deathstrike
Bulletproof Monk
Batman
XXX
Shaft(old skool)
grizzly bear
Legolas (LOTR)
[/list=1]

Any other votes on the top 14 deathmatch?

MasterKiller
05-16-2003, 10:14 AM
If ROYCE was cloned by Agent Smith, could he choke himself out?

Kristoffer
05-16-2003, 12:06 PM
Wolverine vs. Blade
winner: Wolverine


Neo vs. Law (Evil Jet Li in THE ONE)
winner: Law

Daredevil vs. Scorpion King
winner: daredevil


Elektra vs. Mystique
winner: Mystique (elektra should be dead u ****ing *****)


Morpheus vs. Darth Maul
winner: Maul


Mace Windu vs. Agent Smith
winner: MAce


Spiderman vs. Nightcrawler
winner: Spiderman


Trinity vs. Deathstrike (from X2)
winner: Deathstrike


Bulletproof Monk vs. Bullseye
winner: Bullseye


Batman vs. Hero (jet li)
winner: Hero

chen zhen
05-16-2003, 03:03 PM
Sorry..:(

Kristoffer, there's just NO WAY that hero would win! Batman would hand hero's ass to him

@PLUGO
05-16-2003, 04:00 PM
Chen Zhen:

What's your votes for the other 13 matches?


PS: here's another...
IN vs. OUT!!! :p

chen zhen
05-17-2003, 01:13 AM
Haw Haw very funny:rolleyes:

I agree with all the ones kristoffer posted, but I vote for batman in the hero vs. batman fight.

Other fights:
Hulk vs. yoda: yoda wins (only with the use of "the force", else he would be cake)

bruce lee vs. grizzly bear: grizzly bear wins (it was a close match, though :p )

Mr. Miyaki vs. old man from DM: old man wins

Shaft vs. BB Jones:Shaft wins ( he's a bad Motha*shut yo mouf*:D )

Kristoffer
05-17-2003, 09:15 AM
Fatm.. I mean Batman!? Winning over that brutal *******? Sorry I can't see that. Hero would slice him in a second.



How about:
Homer Simpson VS Cartman

Dhalsim VS Mr Fantastic

Jay Z VS 50 Cent

Lara Croft VS Catwoman

chen zhen
05-17-2003, 11:10 AM
Can forum members enter the tournament?
I'd like to enter!:D
I want to kick JayZ AND 50 cents ass

Cartman will win over homer (respect mah authoritah!!*smack**ouch*:cool: )

Kristoffer
05-17-2003, 12:30 PM
Homer Simpson VS Cartman
winner: Cartman

Dhalsim VS Mr Fantastic
winner: Dhalsim

Jay Z VS 50 Cent
winner: 50 Cent

Lara Croft VS Catwoman
winner: Lara


chen zhen VS KFO members
winner: KFO members
;)

chen zhen
05-17-2003, 12:32 PM
NOOO:eek:

heh heh:D

what about:

50 cent vs. chen zhen

any bets?:p

shaolin kungfu
05-17-2003, 12:57 PM
I dont think you want to go up against 50, chen. Anyone that gets shot nine times(once in the face) and keeps movin has to be tough.

Winner=50 cent

chen zhen
05-17-2003, 01:07 PM
Oh, didn't know that.. just forget it then:D

chen zhen vs cartman

the guy is tough, but he's just small and fat. I'll kick his ass:cool:

Kristoffer
05-17-2003, 02:05 PM
Isn't cartman in third grade or something? :D I'll bet on Chen Zhen

chen zhen
05-17-2003, 02:10 PM
It's not something that gives you respect, beating a 3. grader..
but it did when I went to public school:cool:

Kristoffer
05-18-2003, 11:11 AM
.

chen zhen
05-18-2003, 11:25 AM
:cool:

Ok, that was an easy fight, who's next on the list?:o

maybe this thread is getting too ****ed:rolleyes:

Kristoffer
05-18-2003, 11:52 AM
Maybe a little.. here's some comic coolness
lol
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/archives/archive_babes.cfm

chen zhen
05-18-2003, 12:12 PM
Nice find. spiderwoman, fairchild and invisible woman are my favorites:D

Kristoffer
05-18-2003, 02:51 PM
:D

@PLUGO
05-19-2003, 12:16 PM
Wolverine vs. Law (evil Jet Li THE ONE)
Daredevil vs. Mystique (X-men)
Darth Maul vs. Mace Windu
Spiderman vs.Deathstrike (X-men 2)
XXX vs. Shaft
Bulletproof Monk vs. BATMAN
Grizzly Bear vs. Legolas (Lord of the Rings)
Lara Croft vs Old Man (Drunken Master)

norther practitioner
05-19-2003, 01:28 PM
Jay Z VS 50 Cent

They are on tour together....
fiddy is a survivor... 9 bullets, come on man....


How many "Laws" were killed before the end..... 'cause I don't know how strong wolverined is, but if it was like 400 something, then I'd have to say

Law

Mystique

Maul

Spidey

Shaft, cause he's actually got flavor...

The Bear

Old man

chen zhen
05-20-2003, 04:21 AM
daredevil sucks ass, so yeah, mystique wins (whoever the hell she is:o )
I agree with the rest, too.
so, the old man already fought Mr. Miyaki? I didn't realise that. But of course he wins!:D

Kristoffer
05-20-2003, 04:41 AM
Wolverine vs. Law (evil Jet Li THE ONE)
winner: LAw

Daredevil vs. Mystique (X-men)
winner: DD (in the comics he's one badass and he's blind so it doesn't matter what shape M takes coz DD will always keep track of her)

Darth Maul vs. Mace Windu
winner: Darth Maul

Spiderman vs.Deathstrike (X-men 2)
winner: Spiderman

XXX vs. Shaft
winner: Shaft

Bulletproof Monk vs. BATMAN
winner: Batman

Grizzly Bear vs. Legolas (Lord of the Rings)
winner: Grizzly Bear :D

Lara Croft vs Old Man (Drunken Master)
winner: Old man

Kristoffer
05-20-2003, 04:57 AM
Charmane Star VS Aria Giovanni ;)

Jackie Chan VS Stick figure (www.xiaoxiaomovie.com)

Nightcrawler VS Wolverine

An alien empire VS a cow

Rocky VS Rambo

chen zhen
05-20-2003, 11:37 AM
1: doesn't know either:eek:
2:jackie Chan
3:Wolverine
4:Cow:cool:
5:Rambo ('Nam veteran, can't beat that;) )

@PLUGO
05-20-2003, 11:59 AM
1) DareDevil vs. Law (evil Jet Li THE ONE)

2) Darth Maul vs. Spiderman

3) Shaft vs. BATMAN

4) Grizzley Bear vs. Old Man (Drunken Master)

chen zhen
05-20-2003, 12:43 PM
1) Law
2) Spiderman
3)Batman (bad-ass detective beating a superhero.. I don't think so :cool: )
4)Grizzly bear (that bear is unbeatable;) )

MasterKiller
05-20-2003, 12:46 PM
How the heck would Spiderman beat Darth Maul?

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

chen zhen
05-20-2003, 12:58 PM
Speed. It's all about speed.;)
and some spiderweb:cool:


Nah, I Guess Maul would beat the crap out of him, now that I think about it..:)

@PLUGO
05-20-2003, 01:37 PM
That Spiderman/Darth Maul conflict would be quite a sight.

They're both quite fast however Spidey IS faster. Stronger as well.

His spider sences enable him to prettymuch dodge bullets while Maul's force can enable him to deflect blaster fire. So with his jumping and wall crawling he could effective dodge lightsaber swings... however, one connection would end it.

The webbing may slow Maul down, forcing him to have to cut through it, and one shot hitting the saber & Maul would be disarmed... Or he would have to let himself be pulled along with the saber. However if Spidey can successfully web the saber to a wall or floor then there's no way maul would free the saber in time...

Very close indeed...


also remember Darth Maul was chopped in half by a young Obi Wan... so he may not be as BAD @SS as he looks.... ;) :D

chen zhen
05-21-2003, 02:36 AM
Good points. I'll vote for spidey again.;)

Kristoffer
05-21-2003, 08:25 AM
Darth Maul is just a geek with horns :D

chen zhen
05-21-2003, 10:25 AM
And he has rotten teeth! did anyone notice that? his jaw would be more vulnerable than most people, so a single punch would knock him down, with rotten teeth all over the place.:eek:

MasterKiller
05-21-2003, 11:05 AM
First off, Maul is much too fast with the saber to let a few webs slow him down. He holds his own against TWO Jedi Knights, the baddest muthers in the galaxy. TWO of them!

Plus, he smart, and he fights smart. Dig that Harvard accent, boys. Maul ain't no dumb animal. He purposely led Qui-Gon into the reactor so Obi-Wan couldn't help. The fact that Obi-Wan kills him is null. Obi-Wan becomes one of the greatest Jedi Knights in history...it is Obi-Wan's hubris that brings him down eventually, not his abilities. A healthy Obi-Wan would have slaughtered Vader in his prime...and does...which is why Anakin becomes Vader in the first place. This is also evident when Obi-Wan eventually allows Vader to kill him. How many times does Vader stomp that robe to make sure Obi-Wan is gone? He's afraid because he knows what Obi-Wan was once capable of. But I digress....

Let's not forget one thing. The Dark Side of the Force has given Maul extra-sensory abilites as well. Can he run up a wall? No. But he can manipulate objects and throw people/things around ala telekenisis. Dooku and Palpatine also display an affintity for Force Lightning, so it is reasonable to assume Maul has the same ability (and does display it in Jedi Power Battles), in which case he would just FRY Spidey and be done with it.

He can also sense attacks from all angles. Dig that block behind his back he does against Qui-Gon. He's not even looking at it.

Or he could just Force Choke Spidey off his freakin web from a distance.

Besides, is Spidey so dedicated to his cause that he would Tattoo his whole body? Na, he run off and cry about the responsibility of power or some shlt once the going got tough.

Maul wins vs. almost everyone. Except Obi-Wan.

chen zhen
05-21-2003, 11:30 AM
Now I'm leaning more towards Maul again:cool:

Kristoffer
05-22-2003, 06:57 AM
So he can shoot lightnings. Big deal. Spidey pummels geeks like Electro in a second. telekenesis and such is nothing new to him either :rolleyes: And I don't remember Maul USING these abillitys that you say he's got.. If he could ""Force Choke Spidey off his freakin web from a distance."" howcome he didn't do this in the movie?

i'll tell you why, because he SUCKS! He's a lame character that sucks ass. With horns.

Spidey has a spidey sense :D He is 100 times stronger than horn boy. 100 times FASTER and 100 times EXPERIENCED than him too. He can climb walls, is acrobatic etc etc etc.. And you should'nt underestimate his webs either. They could almost tie down the Juggernauth (spelling?), and that's some strong webbing my friend. It is way to obious that Spider-Man would win over Darth Maul.

MasterKiller
05-22-2003, 07:13 AM
Maul does use the Force to push Obi-Wan into the reactor pit. And remember, to use a lightsaber, one must also be attuned to the Force to keep from cutting off your own head. Now, since Maul by far demonstrates the most skill with a saber in any of the movies, it's reasonable to assume he's highly attuned to the Force. It was the hardcore training the Palpatine put him through that turned him into a bad@ss.

He doesn't use the lightning against Obi-Wan because he wants to beat him with his skills. In the original script, Obi-Wan and Maul talk to each other during the fight:

Obi-Wan: "Your style of fighting is old, but I understand it now..."
Maul: "You learn fast."
Obi-Wan: "You don't bother to learn."
Maul: "I don't have to."
Obi-Wan then cuts Maul in half and says: "Learn not, live not, my master always says."

Now, obviously Maul is soooo confident in his abilities because he has killed a ton of people before. Palapatine uses Maul as an assassin for years before he fights Obi-Wan. He even infiltrated the Black Sun syndicate and killed many of their top officials., without ever being detected.

So Spidey is strong...doesn't matter. As Vader says in Ep IV "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."

His webs are strong? Nothing can cut through a lighstaber. Maul would slice through them like butter. In fact, the only thing that can block a lightsaber is another lightsaber. I don't think Spidey has the training.

And Spidey sense? So what! Maul used the Force to track down Amidala fromhalf-way across the galaxy. That's some strong precognition.

Kristoffer
05-22-2003, 08:28 AM
It doesn't change the fact that he got his ass handed to him by Ewan McGregor, a true pussie.

Thus, is inferior :D

chen zhen
05-22-2003, 09:28 AM
MasterKiller VS Kristoffer: a draw;)

Spidey VS Maul: Both being so unbelievably fantastic and strong as the 2 beforementioned gentlemen argue about:rolleyes: , they both die in a double K.O. (exists only in vid. games;) ). so, a draw.

chen zhen
05-22-2003, 09:31 AM
Kristoffer, Spidey was almost killed by a green-cled ***** called the green goblin, as you might remember. It was only luck that saved him from being owned by the green SOB:cool:

Kristoffer
05-22-2003, 09:50 AM
:rolleyes: ;)

@PLUGO
05-22-2003, 09:50 AM
chen zhen may have a point...

Spiderman's spidersence allow him to predict when & where a bullet will be (ala bullet-time) thus dodging it. So in theory he could fire one web (there's little doubt he would hit his target) and when maul slices said web he could then fire the second web trapping the light saber.

Of course Maul would be able to use the force to sence the web trajectories and adjust accordingly however Spidey would then sence the adjustment and adjust to the adjustment whih maul would sence againt adjust to illiciting and equivilant responce from Spiderman ad-infinitum.

So would it then come to a question of who is actually "faster?"

Not sure about the "force-choke" as Maul never displayed it while Vadar DID & of course as the one who would bring balance to the force & possesing a higher "midiclorian" count than any Jedi in history it's concievable that Maul could do so at a slightly less effective level than Vadar.

Again there's a time delay with both the Choke as well as the push. It may be the level of FX available to the movies, but based on Empire Strikes Back it's apparent that there's a time delay between reaching out with the force to effect something & creating that effect. Even YODA needed time to stop that pillar from falling on Anikan & Obi durring Episode II so the telekenisis of the force isn't as direct as say the telekenisis of the Marvel Universe. Again that time delay would work to Spidey's advantage.

Spiderman can jump about 3 stories in any direction, being tossed back 20' would be completely ineffective as he would certainly be able to land on his feat. For the Jedi, that 20feet is significant as they are strongest at close ranges. For Spiderman short & long range are very interchangable.

Consider also that Spiderman could just stay on the ceiling out of saber range and cover the whole area in webbing. Or what if he just got in close enough to hold onto the saber itself sticking right onto Maul's chest?

Maul's greatest advantage is that Spiderman would be unfamiluar with Darth Maul's capabilities. Durring that time he would be in grave danger as Maul is ruthless and, as that clipped script implies, not remotely interested in learning anything about his opponent; just killing him.

Still not sure who would win.

almost as interesting...Grizzley Bear vs. Old Man (Drunken Master). That's one tough Bear!!! ;)

Kristoffer
05-22-2003, 09:55 AM
yeah... what he said

chen zhen
05-22-2003, 02:42 PM
I think that bear is heading directly to the finals!:D

The old man is strong, as he could beat jackie chan in DM, and many others in the movies he's in. But he has one vulnerability: he's drunk most of the time ;) But the bear would've (b)eaten him no matter what, as he ate Legolas and Bruce Lee:p

Kristoffer
05-22-2003, 03:08 PM
Spider-Man could beat the bear :rolleyes:

chen zhen
05-23-2003, 02:13 AM
But Maul can't beat the bear:D

MasterKiller
05-23-2003, 06:39 AM
of course as the one who would bring balance to the force & possesing a higher "midiclorian" count than any Jedi in history

Midcholorians have nothing to do with the Force, as you will find out in Ep III.

Yoda from Empire Strikes Back: "We are luminous beings. Not this crude matter."

When Anakin went ape-shlt against the Tusken Raiders, Yoda heard Qui-Gon's voice in a vision. This is the first instance where a Jedi has survived death, and Yoda realizes that the body is an illusion. He will teach this to Obi-Wan in Ep III. Mark my words.

The reason Qui-GOn is hung up on Midi-Chlorians is because he believes in the 'living' Force. He tells Yoda "[Obi-Wan] has much to learn of the living force, but he is capable."

So, most Jedi believe the Force is something tangible. That is why they put so much emphasis on the Midi-Chlorians. It is also why they fall. They believe they know everything. The librarian in EP II tells Obi-Wan: "If it is not in the Jedi Archives, it does not exist!"

Their hubris knows no bounds, and is there ultimate downfall.


BTW--Maul would kill a bear with his bare teeth.

Kristoffer
05-23-2003, 06:47 AM
""When Anakin went ape-shlt against the Tusken Raiders, Yoda heard Qui-Gon's voice in a vision. This is the first instance where a Jedi has survived death, and Yoda realizes that the body is an illusion. """


How do you mean it's an illusion?

MasterKiller
05-23-2003, 07:05 AM
That the body is not the person. That it is a container, and you are a luminous being who is not dependent on a body for survival.

chen zhen
05-23-2003, 07:30 AM
of course he would kill the bear! jeez:rolleyes:

Kristoffer
05-23-2003, 08:20 AM
"That the body is not the person. That it is a container, and you are a luminous being who is not dependent on a body for survival."


So how come almost every Jedi is of 'human' form?

MasterKiller
05-23-2003, 08:25 AM
Because they don't know it yet. They think the Force is Tangible, that it is something Alive, like them, and that their connection to the Force is through other life-forms--Midi-Chlorians. The do not yet realize that there is something spiritual about the Force, and that it transcends physical constructs.

Yoda is the first to figure it out, which is why you ONLY see Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin in "spirit" form at the end of Return of the Jedi, and not the other 10,000 Jedi that die in the Clone Wars.

Kristoffer
05-23-2003, 08:32 AM
Ok cool. I'll have to say that I'm not that big of a fan of SW but I definatly enjoy them. So what's the episode 3 gonna be about? How he turns into Vader?

MasterKiller
05-23-2003, 08:58 AM
It will probably be about 1) Anakin turning to the Darkside, 2) The Jedi collapsing because of their arrogance, 3) Palpatine's rise to Emperor, 4) The destruction wreaked on the galaxy during the Clone Wars, which causes 'people' to hate droids.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Maul's clone pops up somewhere.;)

@PLUGO
05-23-2003, 09:16 AM
Dude... where do you get all this starwars info?

MasterKiller
05-23-2003, 09:27 AM
It's all in the movies. You just have to pay attention. ;)

There are two specific references to the arrogance of the Jedi. 1) When Obi-Wan tells Qui-gon not to defy the council's orders on Anakin, and 2) when Yoda tells Obi-Wan in EPII that "arrogance is a trait far too common in jedi these days, even in the older, more experienced ones."

Kristoffer
05-23-2003, 12:11 PM
k

@PLUGO
05-23-2003, 02:39 PM
okay... As we can assume the DARTH MAUL will eat that grizzly...

how about...

Darth Maul vs. Magneto

chen zhen
05-24-2003, 02:04 AM
Who the F*** is magneto?!

But whoever it is, Maul is the winner, I'm sure

Kristoffer
05-24-2003, 04:23 AM
Magneto wins. He'd controll the metall in the lightsaber's handle and slice Maul with his own weapon

chen zhen
05-24-2003, 01:49 PM
Or he would be sliced by the weapon while it's flying towards his hand..

He is an x-man who can control metals with a magnetic body, non?

MasterKiller
05-24-2003, 02:37 PM
Maul vs Magneto. Hmmmm.

That's tough.


hmmmm.


Magento is a bad mammy jammy.

But, once again I quote Vader. "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force."

If Magento can't do more than the Death Star, and Vader claims the Force is stronger than the Death Star, I say Maul, by default because of his Force training.

If Mageneto, could, say, Destroy a Galaxy, Or even a Solar System, I'd go with Magento.

Kristoffer
05-24-2003, 03:06 PM
Bull**** Magneto would drop the whole deathstar on Maul.. *SPLAT* end of fight

@PLUGO
05-27-2003, 12:20 PM
If Magento can't do more than the Death Star, and Vader claims the Force is stronger than the Death Star, I say Maul, by default because of his Force training.

Well consider that Darth Vader could be talking from a velot's POV when he says "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force."

he Emperor himself is having the deathstar built... why would he if he could simply distroy a planet via the force?

In the mean time Magneto's powers extend well into the influences of gravity & has on more than one occasion nearly switched the magnetic poles of earth.

While he may or may not be attuned to "THE FORCE" his power over magnetism is quite on par being a significant "force" in the universe itself. Consider also we have no idea of the IRON content in Maul's blood.

While a light saber demands attunmnet with the force Magneto could certainly disassemble it with a waive of the hand leaving Maul weaponless. Magneto can also use his powers to deflect energy beams as well as create the lightning effects similar the other sith lords...

He also has a proven resistance to telepathic assaults as well...

Tough fight 4 sure...

chen zhen
05-27-2003, 01:38 PM
If Magneto is as strong as you say he is, that could mean that he would be the all-time winner of the tournament. that can't be right. he must have a weakness.
What superhero has magneto fought against? has he ever been defeated in any comic book?

Kristoffer
05-27-2003, 02:26 PM
I remember an X-men ish where Wolerine simulates his assassination on Mahneto. Sneakin bye a whole island of security, in to his house, and fighting M. Over and over again. Someone ask him if he ever kills Magneto and he says: *a few times'. Then he increase the difficulty.

Magneto can be defeated but Maul is just to weak.

@PLUGO
05-27-2003, 02:40 PM
What superhero has magneto fought against? has he ever been defeated in any comic book?

Magneto is usually fighting the X-men.... More often than not the most the X-men usually get is to simply "stop" his current plans ...like flipping the earths magnetic poles...

Usually it's a combination of Luck and sacrafice that Stop him... but Magneto has been rairly "beaten" in the traditional sence...

MasterKiller
05-28-2003, 11:51 AM
he Emperor himself is having the deathstar built... why would he if he could simply distroy a planet via the force?
The Death Star is a symbol of the Empire's might, meant to deter star systems from rebelling against the Empire. The fact that it can destroy planets IS linked to the Force, as you will see in EP III.

cho
05-28-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Design Sifu
He also has a proven resistance to telepathic assaults as well...

Tough fight 4 sure...
It's Magneto's helmet that protects him from psychic attacks, like Juggernauts.

Magneto can also draw up a forcefield around himself. He'd be maul for sure.

chen zhen
06-04-2003, 02:58 PM
This thread has'nt been up for a while.. the Maul vs. blabla whatever is getting boring.
Who's the bear gonna fight next?

@PLUGO
06-04-2003, 04:15 PM
Bear vs. Pee Wee Herman!!!

:p

Becca
06-04-2003, 10:34 PM
The real guy pretending to be a computer phantom, or the computer phantom who thinks he's real. Who would win?






Me thinks it would be Neo.
A) Real person is always better than 800-year-old fake frog
B) Cuase the frog won the MF award.
C) Yoda can't pause mid-jump
D) Neo wouldn't stop fighting to save idiot who didn't move out of the way

Serpent
06-04-2003, 11:26 PM
Yoda would mess Neo up, assuming he was allowed to use his lightsabre and force lightening.

chen zhen
06-05-2003, 01:48 AM
Don't know that one.. heard the word pee wee before, though

Sho
06-05-2003, 02:53 AM
Definitely Yoda. Yoda has skill while Neo doesn't.

MasterKiller
06-05-2003, 06:56 AM
Force lightning can only be used by a Sith Lord.

Jedi use the Force for knowledge and DEFENSE...never attack. In Attack of the Clones, Yoda does a very Shaolin thing...he refuses to accept Dooku's lightning attack, and sends it back to him. He does not himself initiate the attack.

Of course, this sets up a conflict concerning Luke Skywalker. As he was only partially trained, and not fully indoctrinated into the Jedi order (i.e. have all attachments removed from his life), he does a foolish thing--In ROTJ, he Force-Chokes two Gamorrean Guards in Jabba's palace. Luke's lack of discipline is almost his undoing, as the Emperor points out later when he urges Luke to strike him down. A fully indoctrinated Jedi would not have had to struggle with that decision, but Luke has a hard time deciding which is more important--his friends' lives, or respect for the Force.





BTW....Yoda would so own Neo.

@PLUGO
06-05-2003, 10:10 AM
Pee Wee Herman (http://members.tripod.com/~Pweee/) was famous (http://www.tvdance.com/peewee/) for a period of time. But fell (http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/11/15/reubens.artwork.flap/) from grace (http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/pee-wee-herman.html), errrr, so to speak (http://www.grudge-match.com/History/peewee-gilligan.shtml).

chen zhen
06-05-2003, 03:05 PM
if the bear had'nt killed him, I would've, child molesting b@stard:mad: :mad:

fa_jing
06-05-2003, 06:21 PM
Huh? Who would win a battle, between these two undefeatable swordsmen????

chen zhen
06-06-2003, 02:16 AM
Kenshin is the long-haired kid from that jap. Manga series, right? I vote on him.

Kristoffer
06-06-2003, 06:34 AM
Yoda in the matrix??
Neo exist only in a computer program and yoda lives in a galaxy far far away :D .. They would nerver hook up, unless yoda enter the matrix wich is a bit stupid. The frog would **** him up good, in or outside the matrix

Kristoffer
06-06-2003, 06:39 AM
uhm.. where did it say he was a child molestor?? I only saw that he jerked off in a xxx theatre? :confused:

chen zhen
06-06-2003, 07:10 AM
He was'nt exactly a child-molester, he was arrested for possessing child-porn (but that does'nt exactly make it better..). it says that in one of the links.

chen zhen
06-06-2003, 07:14 AM
But is'nt the universe a part of the matrix?
WOOOOOO:D

neo could enter the planet which yoda lives on, via the matrix. And yoda would own his ass;)

Kristoffer
06-06-2003, 08:10 AM
lol
that would mean there's an ugly frog on a bench with a cord in the back of his head somewhere

Kristoffer
06-06-2003, 08:12 AM
oh I saw that now.. you'r right

chen zhen
06-06-2003, 08:45 AM
neo could actually find Yodas body in "the real world", and kill him in his sleep.
A contraversial argument there:D

@PLUGO
06-06-2003, 09:25 AM
Well it seems we're confusing the Charactor with it's actor... though it's easy to do... much in the same way as Gilligan...

But what if the Bear was a bear cub?

:eek:

@PLUGO
06-06-2003, 09:29 AM
No WAY!!!

SAMURAI JACK all the way!!!

C'mon he's studied Iron Body at Shaolin, Wrestling in Greece, Sailing with the Vikings, Hunting in the Americas, Horsemanship with the Mongels AND he's got a magical Demon slaying sword!!!

He could take out Darth Maul!!!!! :D

fa_jing
06-06-2003, 10:02 AM
Well, Samurai Jack DOES have the cross-training, but...

Rouroni Kenshin has the BEST of the Japanese swordmanship training...


Specialize in one style, or cross-train? THAT's the dilemna here...

:)

chen zhen
06-06-2003, 10:20 AM
lol

It would kill him anyway. he's just a skinny *****, he would get eaten even by a raccoon

SanSoo Student
06-06-2003, 11:51 PM
Kenshin and Samurai Jack would both be cool, so they wouldn't fight. They would just chill and drink tea wit each other.

StickyHands
06-07-2003, 06:45 PM
KENSHIN, DUH! Batosai the Man Slayer will definitely win. He has omnipotent god-like speed. He's invincible, he never loses, and he can adapt quickly to a stronger opponent's attack. And dude has unlimited moves and mystical force of power. -_- Why am I even defending him, he's a like a superhuman! Where samurai jack is a mere mortal, poorly drawn cel-animation, and he's been beaten once my those white monkey tribes from another planet. I only watch it when Im REALLY REALLY bored. But it's artsy, so it's cool.

Starchaser107
06-08-2003, 01:28 AM
Hitokiri Battousi

all the way.

Besides , jack isnt too sharp is he, even if his blade is.

fa_jing
06-09-2003, 01:51 PM
Oh my bad, I guess Kenshin is the name of the program, yes I meant the man-slayer dude with the cross-cut on his face.

chen zhen
06-10-2003, 11:38 AM
What about the rappers again..

Snoop Dogg vs. 50 cent

This is tough. we already discussed fiddy, he's apparently invincible by gun shots..
Snoop is stoned most of the time :rolleyes:, but he's tough, I think. +, can look like a psycho sometimes, as seen in picture below::D

@PLUGO
06-12-2003, 09:35 AM
how about Vanella Ice vs. Emmenem ?

MasterKiller
06-12-2003, 10:23 AM
8 mile beats Cold as Ice anyday. Eminem by a landslide.

But Ice Ice Baby was a bad song.

Starchaser107
06-12-2003, 11:57 AM
no youre not wrong he adopted the name Himura Kenshin when he decided to stop killing and wander around with the reverse blade sword.

Starchaser107
06-12-2003, 12:06 PM
the marix applies only to earth and not distant galaxies. Yoda would so kick his ass and hand it back to him, and say "Young Neo, Here your Ass is, The force , you do not understand, Ready, you are not"

Kristoffer
06-12-2003, 12:24 PM
"the marix applies only to earth and not distant galaxies. "

How can you know?

Starchaser107
06-12-2003, 12:32 PM
...ahm....

k


well... Nothing in either movies suggested anything interstellar.

but in either universe yoda would win, I mean c'mon look how much difficulty he has with Agent Smiths alone.
the frog would totally dominate him, even if you threw in morpheus and trinity for good measure.

fa_jing
06-12-2003, 01:23 PM
Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken. :D

Kristoffer
06-13-2003, 07:30 AM
There is no Yoda








;)

chen zhen
06-13-2003, 08:34 AM
there is no Neo

there is no Matrix

;)

MasterKiller
06-13-2003, 08:55 AM
"the marix applies only to earth and not distant galaxies. "

Pre-supposing the Matrix could apply to distant galaxies, that does not mean it has the ability to transpose different time periods. Since the Matrix takes place a thousand or so years in our future, and Star Wars takes place thousands of years before our current time, even if the Matrix could allow Neo to displace himself into another galaxy, I do not think he could alter his temporal position in the time/space continuum.

Starchaser107
06-14-2003, 09:00 AM
Put it this way, if Neo were to buy an X-Box and get a star wars Game ...Yoda would Kick his ass.

chen zhen
06-15-2003, 08:45 AM
i have an idea.. instead of posting vs. fights up like this, where we debate one after another in the same thread, what if we do a thread pr. fight, and do it as a poll? Then people can vote on who they want to win, and it will be easier to see the results.
I got inspired to this on another forum, (not KFO that is)

so whadyya say?

Shaolin-Do
06-16-2003, 07:25 AM
But eminem sucks just as much.
err... almost.
They both are gay.
And em's production skillz are about as good as an ape with an akai mpc.

@PLUGO
06-16-2003, 09:39 AM
instead of posting vs. fights up like this, where we debate one after another in the same thread, what if we do a thread pr. fight, and do it as a poll? Then people can vote on who they want to win, and it will be easier to see the results.

sounds like a really good idea... would you care to start the thread & select the first round of combatants?

chen zhen
06-16-2003, 10:08 AM
Ok, I will

RAYNYSC
06-16-2003, 06:50 PM
The frog wins hands down Yoda rules!....:cool:

Peace:D