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shaolin kungfu
05-17-2003, 02:32 PM
What would be the best way to go about training with guns? Should I just buy a gun and go to a pistol range?

Becca
05-18-2003, 01:50 AM
Don't buy one then learn. Find a range that offers classes, learn what type would work best for you and will fill your needs. THEN buy one. Unless, of course, you want to collect expensive pieces of junk you'll never use.

shaolin kungfu
05-18-2003, 03:01 AM
Thanks.

Demi @ CSPT
05-18-2003, 08:29 AM
You might be interested in our FIREPOWER Video:

http://www.demibarbito.com/firepower.html

It covers safety, basics, intermediate and advanced combat handgun and shotgun.

Here is how we train at my facility so you understand the basic progression in firearms training.


Course #1: Defensive Handgun

Safety, moral and legal implications, handling, ready poitions, marksmanship, maintenance and more. The purpose of this course is to get you familiar with firearm in order to handle them safely and effectivley. One accident can be disasterous and when it comes to actually shooting you can’t miss fast enough.

One thing that should be taught in school is basic firearms safety. If we all knew these rules as a kid there would be less trouble with firearms due to ignorance. These are not meant to be read or heard they are meant to be WRITTEN ON THE TABLET OF YOUR HEART. These rules should be performed, not just known. They are in force full time not just on the range or when you're with people.

These rules and your adhereance to them can and do save lives.

#1. All guns are always loaded.

#2. Never point your weapon at anything or anyone you're not willing to kill or destroy.

#3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you've made a conscious decision to kill or destroy.

#4. Be sure of your target and what's beyond it.

In addition we like to include the following:

*Never have ammunition in the area when cleaning or handling weapons.

*Always store guns safely and legally.

Children who accidentally come in contact with firearms outside of aldut supervision should be/could be told the following:

STOP

DON'T TOUCH

LEAVE THE AREA

TELL AN ADULT

Course #2: Tactical Handgun

Draw, movement, malfunctions, cover and concealment, multiple opponents, wounded shooter and more. The purpose of this course is to get you out of range mode and into fight mode. You can now build upon the foundation layed out in Defensive Handgun and move closer to being functional with a firearm.

Course #3: Close Quarters Handgun

Fighting with a handgun at contact distances. Firing/fighting positions, retention, striking, countering a firearm and more. This is where most assaults or fights happen. At conversational distances is where you are most likely to have to defend yourself. You could also be attacked in a phone booth, a stair well, an elevator or other tight spot that most have never trainind for.

Course #4: Force on Force Scenario Training.

Home defense/concealed carry scenarios with SIMUNITIONS, Air Soft, Paint Ball. These scenarios are generally video taped, debriefed and remediation is done to correct elements that were done wrong or were inappropriate for the circumstance. It is in force on force where your level of proficiency is revealed. We try to create an evironment that comes as close as possible to a real encounter. This is why you must recieve "basic" gun training before you can move into the more advanced phases. I get calls from people who want to come in and train SIMUNITION with little or no training. It would prove useless except for the fact that it would be an expensive way to point out the need for realistic/methodical/modern firearms training.

That's just a basic layout of a typical program. There could be a Tactical Firearms 2 before Close Quarters Handgun etc. Each one would require practice afterward to get ready for the next. This is a very systematic approach. It is this basic safety that is brought into handling and then handling is brought into markmanship. Marksmanship is then brought into tactics and tactics into combat.

Black Jack
05-18-2003, 09:03 AM
Go find a national rifle association sponsored course at one of your local firing ranges. Get the basic elements ingrained before you go all tactical.

Becca
05-18-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Demi @ CSPT

#1. All guns are always loaded.

*Never have ammunition in the area when cleaning or handling weapons.

*Always store guns safely and legally.



Amen. I was an armorer in the Marines and have fired cometatively with air rifles in H.S., so I've seen more accidents with weapons than the average person would, but every one of them could have been avoided with these three rules. Two negligent discharges while clearing pistols, one rifle turned in at armory still loaded, and dipsh1t who pulled the rigger while weapon was not pointed down range (lots of air rifles used in competitions don't have adaquit safties.) And a cousin of mine shot himself in the head cleaning his hunting rifle. You must be vigilant; even some one with alot of experience can make a mistake, and bullets are not forgiving.

shaolin kungfu
05-19-2003, 07:24 AM
Thanks everyone!