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draggin dragon
05-19-2003, 12:34 PM
Anyone here familiar with di tang? What can you tell me about it?
Any input appreciated.

Shuul Vis
05-19-2003, 01:13 PM
Di Tang is alot like Wu Tang, only dumb. Well, if i talk about Di Tang then its cool. But if someone else speaks about it then it is nonsense.

MasterKiller
05-19-2003, 01:16 PM
Ditang Quan or the ground tumbling Chuan is also called ground skill Chuan. It is said to have originated in the Southern Song Dynasty (1129-1279) and was first practised in Shandong Province from where it spread to other parts of the country. After the founding of People's Republic of China, it was included in the martial arts competition programs.

Ditang Quan has absorbed the tumbles, falls, turns, somersaults and aerial acrobatics of the drunkard Chuan, monkey Chuan and other Chuan styles, developing into a routine of beautiful and delicate moves and actions. Ground tumbling boxers can jump high and perform extremely difficult tricks.

Attacking blows, hidden in the movements of tumbling, falling, turning and somersaulting are a major feature of this style. Tumbles and falls are used to confuse and mislead the opponent into the trap and to launch attacks. With the upper limbs, they charge, push, rake, rub, hammer, pick and upswing while they use the lower limbs to kick, stamp, swing, flick, hook, hitch, and high kick. Besides jumping, shunning, extending and retreating, ground tumbling boxers also emphasize grabbing, crushing, wrestling, wringing, turning and coiling.

During execution of the ground tumbling Chuan, dangerous moves follow in quick succession creating an exciting spectacle for viewers. At the same time the delicacy, agility and boldness of the movements is aesthetically pleasing.

However, the ground tumbling Chuan is not just an artistic display. It is a fist play with attacks and defences ingeniously mixed with difficult, delicate and beautiful actions.

It not only trains people in self-defence skills but it can also keep people fit and exercise their will power. Persistent practice can strengthen the functions of human bones, ligaments, muscles and internal organs, so preparing people to soak up the impact of outside forces and blows. It is an excellent form of health-preserving exercise.

Shaolin-Do
05-19-2003, 01:45 PM
*clap*......*clap*.....................*clap*

I still rule.
:)
Sounds interesting tho, Ive never honestly heard of that style.

norther practitioner
05-19-2003, 01:54 PM
Really, it is in the Shaolin curriculm (to a degree)...... :eek:

The really good wushu players are fun to watch practicing di tang....

ditang chuan (http://www.wushucentral.com/videos/v.php/furiousg/Library/ditang)

Shaolin-Do
05-19-2003, 02:00 PM
As much trolling that goes on about wushu on here, I bet about 1% of the people who rag on wushu could do it, and make it look as good as a good wushu dude.

norther practitioner
05-19-2003, 02:03 PM
Wow, I might have to actually agree with you....partially....lol

Richie
05-19-2003, 02:05 PM
I do Di tang, and it is very different from wushu di tang. There is rolling and jumping on the ground, but not for no reason like wushu.

Shaolin-Do
05-19-2003, 02:05 PM
;)

Anyhow, Im off work so peaceout.

Belligerant fools......
:eek:



:D

norther practitioner
05-19-2003, 02:14 PM
Richie,
Yeah, it is hard to find old school ditang in these parts. I have seen it a few times, looks hard and fun.

Shaolin Master
05-20-2003, 08:05 AM
Many Wushu Styles were developed based on some form of traditional style such as Chang Quan (Cha, HUa and Traditional Jiao Men Chang Quan), Wushu Taijiquan (24/42/48 on traditional styles etc), Wushu NanQuan (on Hung Ga and Xia Jia Quan etc).....

Ditanquan is no exception. In Fact it dates back to even the Song Dynasty (as mentioned) and it was the main component of Wen Family martial arts (now almost extinct but found in Chuo Jiao Men of Hebei), it is also popular in Shandong as mentioned.

It also known traditionally known as MeiHuaLuoDi (Plum Blossoms falling to the ground) or DiXingGong.

The techniques are as varied as any other complete martial system. Specialising in tumbling skills.

Although mostly admired by the difficult movements as emphasised by wushu, when practised traditionally it is a lethal combat method.

Brad
05-20-2003, 12:19 PM
Wushu Taijiquan (24/42 on Yang Style, 48 on four styles etc)
slight correction, 42 is a combined form like 48, and and even 24 has a little bit of non Yang(Sun style) influence as well. In modern wushu, pretty much any falling/rolling, etc. techniques are called Di Tang. I wasn't even aware that traditional Di Tang fighting style still existed! Guess you learn something new every day, lol.

norther practitioner
05-20-2003, 01:21 PM
The traditional is wicked hard to find...as pointed out earlier, would be a fun side training for a while...

Richie
05-20-2003, 08:30 PM
The only person I know who teaches it is GM Chan. However, there are probably others.

Shaolin Master
05-21-2003, 02:03 AM
Shandong (Jinan), Beijing, Hebei and all the North Western region have Traditional Di Tan Quan teachers about (Just ask local martial arts teaching institutes).

Overseas : Typically the 'wushu' variety is found. Chin Woo Associations have some elements incorporated as does the Da Xing Pi Gua system but often they are more of a specialised training to the more major curriculum requirements.

In Australia, Brian Lee and Justin Trott are two individuals who have studied Di tan quan (Hebei tradition).

If it is only for a spice of training in it then even the wushu varieties would suffice that. SO it should be easy to find :)

Regards