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Serpent
05-21-2003, 11:12 PM
Well?

I mean, they're weak right? Will there ever be a woman super fighter?

(Please see joedoe's post "Could someone please..."

Becca
05-21-2003, 11:17 PM
Kudos for the effort. But we all know your full of it and so pay no attention to you.;)

Serpent
05-21-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Becca
Kudos for the effort. But we all know your full of it and so pay no attention to you.;)

Hey, I'm just trying to help out joedoe. ;)

yenhoi
05-21-2003, 11:27 PM
No.

:eek:

joedoe
05-21-2003, 11:30 PM
I think Serpent is right. While I have met women who are very good at MA and can put up a pretty good fight, I have yet to meet one who could beat a guy of similar training and experience.

(How was that Serpent? :D)

Serpent
05-21-2003, 11:30 PM
(Very nice! ;) )

joedoe
05-21-2003, 11:50 PM
Matter of fact, the best woman MA I have ever met couldn't beat the worst male one I have ever met :D

PHILBERT
05-22-2003, 12:53 AM
Ive had a woman beat me in my bedro...oh you mean like a fighter type woman? Yeah I suppose so. There was that site with those women grappling in videos wearing skin tight clothes.

triskellin
05-22-2003, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by joedoe
I think Serpent is right. While I have met women who are very good at MA and can put up a pretty good fight, I have yet to meet one who could beat a guy of similar training and experience.

(How was that Serpent? :D)

this, coming from a guy who got a black eye from a chick with less training than half his time! :p who's yo mama? :eek:

David Jamieson
05-22-2003, 06:08 AM
yes, and it's been done.

weren't you watching that crazy street momma clip?

also, many men are vulnerable and weak themselves. A woman of average strength can beat a lot of the men out there hands down. Show them up as the crying flabby sissy boys that they are. :D

as time passes, you'll see more and more change to the ratio.

cheers

Taomonkey
05-22-2003, 07:44 AM
Momma gonna knock you out!

Is that a woman?

norther practitioner
05-22-2003, 07:48 AM
A woman of average strength
Yeah, but Kung, yall grow 'em big up there.....lol;)


And it is
Momma SAID knock you out

Robinf
05-22-2003, 08:00 AM
Grapple Girl. I'd love to see some video of her fights.
:eek: :confused:

Shaolin-Do
05-22-2003, 08:20 AM
f*ck the fire wall they have at my god **** office.
cant watch any of the f*cking videos.

apoweyn
05-22-2003, 08:53 AM
Raise your hand if you think you could beat Kathy Long or Lucia Rijker.

I'm not going to try and argue you out of that position. I'm just curious.


Stuart B.

Shaolin-Do
05-22-2003, 08:55 AM
Id raise my hand if anyone could see me...
:p

unless one of them had a gun or sword... but then it would be a handycap match.

Shaolin-Do
05-22-2003, 08:57 AM
Seriously, if I ever meet a chick who can hit even ALMOST as hard as I can, I will stay in my house, lock my doors, and never leave again.
and dont get me wrong, ive met some females who know how to throw blows, but its never nearly as hard as most dudes I know.

shaolin kungfu
05-22-2003, 09:00 AM
I've yet to see a woman with as much power as a man. That's not to say they can't have as good technique, but most women will never be able to "muscle" most men.

Becca
05-22-2003, 09:20 AM
Smart woman would not try. we would sit back and let you make arse of yourself swingging at nothing because we already moved out of your strike zone.:D

Shaolin-Do
05-22-2003, 09:21 AM
Never met a chick to move quicker than me either :)
But I also would never swing at a chick full force so this is kinda not very legit....
:)

Guile
05-22-2003, 09:40 AM
What about those man chicks.
They can be pretty strong!:eek:

Shaolin-Do
05-22-2003, 09:45 AM
I dont think i put a hardcore lesbian attacking me full force in the "womans" category.
They already want to be a man, so I would put my hands on them like they were a man.
You gotta treat those women like a chick trying out for the football team, knock the crap out of her before she gets on, let her see what its really about first, to save her the humiliation of breaking her arm the 1st game cause some dude from the other team absolutely smeared her.
(happened my 7th grade year)

Shaolin-Do
05-22-2003, 09:46 AM
(a beefy chick in a wifebeater and pink mohawk is not like hitting a "lipstick lesbian")
can do it without moral issues.
:)

tsunami surfer
05-22-2003, 11:52 AM
Believe it or not this is coming from a knuckle-dragging caveman. I've met a lot of tough women in my career and they always looked and acted like ladies. I've seen them out shoot out run and on occasion out fight some supposedly awsome guys in our field. But these women were the exception and not the rule or standard. Very few try and even fewer make it into our section. My wife at 5'2" and 115 with a brown belt in karate and a blue belt in BBJ can almost whip my butt and I stand in at 5'11" and 205. only brute strength saves my pride and rear end from her. She knocked one of my teammates to the ground for a ugly remark before I could do it. while he was trying to get up she gave him a kick to the head and he didn't want anymore after that. He is a powerlifter and stands in at 5'7" and 205. There are a lot of badass chicks er ladies out there. Thats why I treat all women with respect and courtesy. Its embarrassing to get your hat handed to you by a chick. NEVER underestimate anyone.

Golden Arms
05-22-2003, 12:21 PM
I have seen this girl fight, and work out..and she is a monster :) Check it out!

shaolin kungfu
05-22-2003, 12:22 PM
She knocked one of my teammates to the ground for a ugly remark before I could do it. while he was trying to get up she gave him a kick to the head and he didn't want anymore after that.

So, let me get this straight. Someone calls your wife a name, so she knocks him to the ground and kicks his head?

Does this sound odd to anyone else?

Nevermind
05-22-2003, 12:31 PM
Umm....I dunno guys. Anyone see *******: The Movie? That Japanese kickboxing champion? Maybe I could beat her, maybe not. I'm perfectly content not knowing.

Nevermind
05-22-2003, 12:33 PM
Ok, how about Jacka$$: The Movie. ****ed censors! Serenity now!!!

shaolin kungfu
05-22-2003, 12:33 PM
After they fought her they said she had a horrible record in the us.

Or not, I don't really remember.

GunnedDownAtrocity
05-22-2003, 12:49 PM
"Does this sound odd to anyone else?"

it depends on what the coment was ... maybe the dude deserved it.

sk ... da mn you ... i was just about to bring her up. for anyone who cant get past the censor he's referring to jacka ss the movie. there was nothin girly about the way that bi tch hit.

GunnedDownAtrocity
05-22-2003, 12:51 PM
oops ... didnt see there was a page 3.

Nevermind
05-22-2003, 01:25 PM
Her kicks alone were frightening. She kicked like a freakin' mule! Not to mention her legs looked (and probably felt) like tree logs.

MasterKiller
05-22-2003, 01:29 PM
Throw in dancing and a lobster dinner, and most women will do more than just beat you.

ba dum dum

norther practitioner
05-22-2003, 01:38 PM
Throw in dancing and a lobster dinner, and most women will do more than just beat you.

so long as you are asking for it....

Becca
05-22-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Shaolin-Do
I dont think i put a hardcore lesbian attacking me full force in the "womans" category.
They already want to be a man, so I would put my hands on them like they were a man.
You gotta treat those women like a chick trying out for the football team, knock the crap out of her before she gets on, let her see what its really about first, to save her the humiliation of breaking her arm the 1st game cause some dude from the other team absolutely smeared her.
(happened my 7th grade year)

I knew a lady who played varsity football her junior and senior years of high school.

FatherDog
05-22-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by shaolin kungfu


So, let me get this straight. Someone calls your wife a name, so she knocks him to the ground and kicks his head?

Does this sound odd to anyone else?

Sounds like ts dates the same kinds of women I do. :D

No_Know
05-22-2003, 02:30 PM
Yes. That's why they reason and talk. Their hard lives would make them differently dangerous. Their delusional concepts of reality redirects what in males is stupid agression. -ish

In general can a woman Beat a male, Serpant? Perhaps in general no (lack of preparation/training). But she can manipulate real life situations to get you arrested, break with a life-long friend. Get you to give her meals/gifts/shelter (clothes/housing) pay for events, treatments, schooling... all while not yielding to all your desires/treating you badly.

Can she beat-up a guy? Not a great percentage.

Can she mess-you-over?~ In general, they can. Most definitely.

"I mean, they're weak right?"

There can be several factors to determine Strength.

"Will there ever be a woman super fighter?"

Women do a super job of fighting each and every day.-ish Perhaps, if you didn't realize that, then you merely show that they have You beat Serpant.-ish

David Jamieson
05-22-2003, 02:49 PM
No-Know

people will treat you as you let them treat you.

cheers

Becca
05-22-2003, 04:36 PM
No-Know sounds bitter...:mad:

Xebsball
05-22-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Badger
I bet GrappleGirl could beat all of ya:
GrappleGirl (http://grapplegirl.com/)

Thats a man dude, or a mutant woman, or mutant dude.
Clearly she trains with the Bizarro Vale Tudo Team

joedoe
05-22-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Becca
No-Know sounds bitter...:mad:

I don't think so. Actually, I think No_Know is one person on these forums who generally has a pretty balanced view on things.

NorthernMantis
05-22-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Serpent
Well?

I mean, they're weak right? Will there ever be a woman super fighter?

(Please see joedoe's post "Could someone please..."

Obviously you never dated a spanihs woman or a black woman have you?

Oh and I'm dead serious in my old neighborhood there was this girl who all the boys were afraid of ,even gang mebers stayed away from her because this girl could ffight! I've also seen girl that fight like men.

tsunami surfer
05-22-2003, 06:59 PM
I hope you are not questioning my integrity on this SK because what little I post here I try to be fair and partial and truthful with an ocasional bit of humor. The group I work with is a rough bunch and the indivudual who my wife blasted off on deserved what he got. He had been knocked on his butt more than once for being stupid by others in the group and fortunately he no longer works with us. We are one of the few groups that live by "whatever happens here stays here". When an idiot puts his hands where they dont belong and says something rude he deserves what he gets. Get my point??

Serpent
05-22-2003, 07:15 PM
LOL @ this thread.

It's beng taken more seriously than most of the supposedly serious threads!

:D

joedoe
05-22-2003, 08:15 PM
Fight, fight, fight, fight ...



:D

Xebsball
05-22-2003, 08:18 PM
CAAAT FIGHHHHTT!!!!!!!

shaolin kungfu
05-22-2003, 08:26 PM
I wasn't questioning your integrity, I was questioning your wifes anger management ability. But, I wasn't there and you didn't tell us what he said or did, so it may have been justified.

Serpent
05-22-2003, 08:44 PM
FIGHT!

GunnedDownAtrocity
05-22-2003, 09:37 PM
i agree with no know

tsunami surfer
05-24-2003, 08:20 PM
It truly was an ugly remark. Enuff of one that I was going to step into her battle and I very rarely do that. I'm not saying she can whip every guy but I sure dont **** her off at me.

Ben Gash
05-25-2003, 04:44 PM
My brother used to work on the door of a gay club (allowed him to indulge his ****phobia semi-legitimately) and the worst pasting he ever took came from a seriously butch lesbian.
MA wise? All other things being equal strength will come into play, but I know some pretty strong women. One of my Sifu's 5 foot 140lb fiancee kicks seriously hard, and it takes all the endurance I can muster to catch her. With my other Sifu, my Simo once badly beat down a guy who attacked her, and she's hit me so hard I've not been able to train properly for the rest of the day. Gini Lau once put me down without breaking a sweat, and she tells a very interesting (but nasty) anecdote about when she was mugged one time.
BTW I thought that kickboxer was pretty poor really.

brassmonkey
05-25-2003, 04:47 PM
www.itsandy.com/beatdown.wmv

NorthernMantis
05-25-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by NorthernMantis


Obviously you never dated a spanihs woman or a black woman have you?

Oh and I'm dead serious in my old neighborhood there was this girl who all the boys were afraid of ,even gang mebers stayed away from her because this girl could ffight! I've also seen girl that fight like men.

Why in the world can't I type anymore?:confused:

African Tiger
05-25-2003, 08:18 PM
Uh, can we have a chromosome check on Grappling girl?

PUHLEEZE??????? :eek: :eek: :eek:

African Tiger
05-25-2003, 08:21 PM
Serious weight class violation on that "ghetto beatdown".

Plus it's pretty easy to be beaten up by a woman, when you fight like a girl!!! :p



HEY! This makes 600 posts for the AT! When do I get my set of steak knives???? :D

Serpent
05-25-2003, 08:40 PM
Don't hold your breath, mate. Look at my post count. I still haven't received jack sh!t.

sweaty_dog
05-25-2003, 09:58 PM
As far as I know grapplegirl is female, but she does play for the other team (she's not shy about it). Mind you she's been beaten in grappling competition by Gazzy Parman who is very feminine looking.
There's a video of them in action here.
http://www.onthemat.com/arizona2.html
Of course some women can beat some men. There are women in eastern europe who work on construction sites, they could probably beat down 2/3 flabby male desk jockeys without breaking a sweat. There are also some female kickboxers who kick pretty **** hard. The funny thing is that the women who talk the most about how tough they are and how they can beat down any man (because gender doesn't matter etc) are probably the least likely to really do it.

Serpent
05-25-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by sweaty_dog
The funny thing is that the women who talk the most about how tough they are and how they can beat down any man (because gender doesn't matter etc) are probably the least likely to really do it.

The same could be said of guys.

Ben Gash
05-26-2003, 03:53 AM
Serpent, quality, not quantity ;)

TzuChan
05-26-2003, 05:06 AM
When it comes to striking sports, I think it's more then OK to say that the strongest chiq will never beat the strongest man, have to stay realistic.

sweaty_dog
05-26-2003, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Serpent


The same could be said of guys.

Well, yes. Although with guys it is mostly because they are meatheads, not because they have read everything Naomi Wolfe ever wrote.

African Tiger
05-26-2003, 10:47 AM
Couldn't view the video - but you mean to tell me that the chick on the website with the perfect hooters is a grappler?????

Dayum, she can cross-face me with that rack anyday!!!!!!! :D

Ben Gash
05-26-2003, 03:09 PM
I couldn't play it either. Was that an MA site or a porn site :confused: