This forum is on the brink of death..

[Former castleva]

It sounds like you have been busy lately.Or are you still having a break of sort?

[chen zhen]

yeh man, just busy in general. have more important things to do than sit in front of a comp all day;)

[Former castleva]

Understood.

[Starchaser107]

too good for us eh ..


jus' kiddin'
it's busy on this side too.

[Kristoffer]

here too.. it's a good thing though

[Former castleva]

Here,not...

[Kristoffer]

http://h10013.racknine.com/~streetfightercomics.com/index.html

I'm all tingly... aaaall over

[Former castleva]

Looks fine,could not use it much though.Must see later.

[Former castleva]

Any thoughts on this rant?
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25608

[Starchaser107]

yo kris, awesome site..but like fc not much to interact with yet.
again..another case of th addictive midi theme music.
i am Soooo grooving to it.

castle i will read that thread momentarily and think about feedback.

what a hectic day.
(exaspherates*):)

[Former castleva]

"again..another case of th addictive midi theme music."

Hey,hold it.Tell me more. :)

"castle i will read that thread momentarily and think about feedback."

Thanks.
I´m chatting (with myself,mostly) at the moment.Want to step up?

[Former castleva]

Bizarre:
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5036

[Former castleva]

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4961

[Former castleva]

Street Fighter...
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5005

[Former castleva]

OK.Then,Drive safely.

[Vash]

Weird. So weird, I responded to most of them.

They are of the devil.

[chen zhen]

U quoted me, b!tch!
:p

[Sho]

chen zhen, how's your bjj going?

[Kristoffer]

interesting thread about yoga FC.. I asked him to describe the yoga move 'breath of fire'..


EDIT: I hate lazy and dumb people. They should be shot. Or someone should drill a ****ing hole in their head and screw their eyes out. Infront of their family. Stupid lazy n dumb *****es

[Kristoffer]

and on that street fighter site... dayum the comic gotta be pretty cool. I'm gonna go out on monday to look for it. I bet it's already sold out :(
anyway I don't like the short 6 pages mags. It's no fun it's like no story. I usually wait til they release a paperback but I......can't.......resist..........

[Kristoffer]

:mad:

[chen zhen]

sho: pretty good, but im still learning. I get punked by most of them, since they have trained longer than me. most have wrestled before, done Judo, Shooto, etc.
but ill get it someday;)

[Kristoffer]

sounds fun.. describe a regular training session please.

Do u train positioning and techs the most?

[chen zhen]

yes, basics. it would be like, drilling a few basics the first hour, and then the other hour we put it in use, in freestyle sparring.

[Kristoffer]

ok cool. Is takedowns/throws in the basics stuff or do u learn that later on?

[chen zhen]

we have only practiced a shoulder throw, but else we havent done takedowns. when its VT classes, we train clinches, and a leg-trip from a front bear-hug.

u can go here http://bjj.org/techniques/ if u wanna see how it looks like.
we train no-gi btw.

[Kristoffer]

k.. good site

[Kristoffer]

I yawn at this day. **** everything

[Starchaser107]

hmnn. not everyday can be a holiday. some days need to suck in order for you to appreciate the good ones.

[Former castleva]

True SC.Most days suck though.Nature does not care. :)

"I yawn at this day. **** everything"

I wonder why you/we yawn in the first place.

Anyone want to help me find nice natural history/paleo´/zoo´ books?

[chen zhen]

I was out with my homie, the stalker, and we looked at some used cars, at some shop owned by kurds. there was a Peugeot 405 for the rediculously low price of 6500 kr.:eek:
were gonna buy it when we can get off our asses and get a drivers licence. (if we need it at all, I doubt all those 15-year old perks who drive around have one. so why should we?)
or we could borrow one by some perk-gangsters, they do cars all day. I guess they could spare one.

I cant wait till we get some wheels, then were gonna cruise around, blazing the music up, pickin up hos.
this is da bgp lifestyle, gotta live it all out:)

[Former castleva]

"bgb lifestyle"?

"(if we need it at all, I doubt all those 15-year old perks who drive around have one. so why should we?)
or we could borrow one by some perk-gangsters, they do cars all day. I guess they could spare one."

Don´t go criminal.
Well,considering that it´s your country,fifteen year olds will probably get to drive cars legally anyway. ;)

[chen zhen]

no, its highly illegal. u can get a drivers license at age 18, but not before.

[Former castleva]

Yeah.I was kidding again.

[chen zhen]

I know. but u said it like DK's got really liberal laws, so i just said that to show that it is not the case. to make sure u understood;)

[Starchaser107]

i hate ghosts. the real or the imagined kind,
when you have to battle them it is no fun.
especially if the ghosts arent really ghosts.
some days indeed suck
some days dont
and nature doesnt care,
but we are given the capacity to deal with the crap the way we feel
we shouldnt be ruled and goverened by our own emotions.
who is lord the mind of the heart, or something totally exterior?

[chen zhen]

:)

[Kristoffer]

ghosts rules. I puke on cars. fly is the way ta go

[Former castleva]

Excellent overview of penguins;
http://hedwigr.free.fr/FRAMES/Evolutie_eng.html

"I know. but u said it like DK's got really liberal laws, so i just said that to show that it is not the case. to make sure u understood"

Yeah.
;) Maybe they are more liberal in some ways,you think? I mean,fifteen year old´s can buy cigarettes with little trouble,right? Well,that´s nothing to jump up about but just to bring the point back.
lol At your reply at TCM ;) might provoke some.

[Sho]

chen zhen: Good to hear your training is going well. I'd really love to go to a bjj school, but apparently the nearest one is 25km away from me and there's a big problem with transportation. Anyway, train hard and go get them tiger! :D

[Kristoffer]

if u get a car that'd b pretty reasonable distance to go Sho. Do u live in a big city or out in the country?

[chen zhen]

FC: 12 year olds can buy Hashish if they want to. so u are right in some points.

Sho: Thanks man:D hope u find a good place yourself.

[Former castleva]

"FC: 12 year olds can buy Hashish if they want to. so u are right in some points."

Oh.That´s even better.

[Kristoffer]

legalize it, it's alcohol that kills people

[Kristoffer]

..opinions?

[Former castleva]

You´ve stepped on a dangerous area. ;)

"legalize it, it's alcohol that kills people"

Don´t legalize.

[chen zhen]

it should all be banned, and people who take it should be flogged.

Saudi style laws;)

:D

drive safely

[Former castleva]

Drive safely.

[Kristoffer]

Saudi style laws
:eek:
Not cool... :D



*CHOP*
..there goes my hand

[Kristoffer]

drive safely

[Starchaser107]

time.

[Starchaser107]

time log 12:56 am jamaica time (midnight)

____________________________________________
chen 07:55 am denmark (morning)
fc 08:55 am finland (morning)
kris 7:55 am sweden (morning)
ming 01:55 am nc (early morning)
xebbs 03:00 am brazil est. (early morning)
_____________________________________________

[shaolin kungfu]

1:08 am in milwaukee wisconsin.

[Starchaser107]

:D

[Kristoffer]

03.00 am is early morning? crap.. I go to bed at early morning then... :D

[Sho]

samma här :D

[Kristoffer]

;)

[Former castleva]

How is?

[Kristoffer]

s'all good, how bout you? I've been mixerin with this comp all day. Clensin the old one of all useless crap etc

[Kristoffer]

stealing this quote from other member here:
""Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989"

it's good :) Wilson has obviously never been at a rave party


oh n check out this thread: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=4961&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

[Starchaser107]

lol,

how prophetic is That!!!?:eek:

[Former castleva]

Christoffer,
That thread you took,I posted it in this thread just a while ago. :) Freaky one.

As for me,I´m looking for ornithology publications online,know any? :o

[Kristoffer]

hey my name is spelled wid just a K...
Oh I didn't notice when u posted that earlier, that is spooky :D


I wouldn't know of any ornithology publications man.. I'm sure there's plenty on google though

[Former castleva]

I know,Kristy. ;)

"I wouldn't know of any ornithology publications man.. I'm sure there's plenty on google though"

I´ve tried searching.
Little results.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00010090-186D-1C68-B882809EC588ED9F&catID=1

Pac man,eh?
Somewhat related news.
http://www.brainconnection.com/SITEWare/2003/09/25/eng-newsrx/eng-newsrx_185941_4421750149930061334.php3

[Starchaser107]

just for the heck of it

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ornithology

[Kristoffer]

That's alot isn't it? :confused: maybe your to picky FC :p

[Former castleva]

Chase,
yeah.For some reason,various seemingly promising sources are apparently down. :)

"That's alot isn't it? maybe your to picky FC "

Not IMHO but I´m finding some material now.

[Kristoffer]

cool

[Starchaser107]

I used to paint alot of birds.
didn't wan't to fall inside of a trapping from so early in my career.
I guess all artists go through phases.
I'm constantly evolving and trying to outdo myself.
**** it's hot today.
gone outside to train.

[Kristoffer]

it's pretty **** COLD up here :(

[Ming Yue]

well now,
It's 73 degrees here, sunny and breezy. Also I have kung fu class tonight, all in all a fine monday. I'm lucky :)


FC: here's a general list of online pubs I think you might like digging through....

http://www.exploratorium.edu/ls/infosources/eBooks3.html

and a potentially good ornithology one from cornell...

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/publications/birdscope/index.html

:D

[Kristoffer]

Hey Ming :)
It's during the falls I start to question why I live up here.. About 80 % of the year it's cold, rainy, snowy and really really dark.

where do u live btw? Nc, where's that?

[Ming Yue]

North Carolina, in the southeastern US. I live at the southern end of the Appalachian mountains.

It'sbeautiful (http://members.aol.com/waponi/photos/minilux/brp07.jpg) here!

[Starchaser107]

wow that looks just like home..actually more like up in the blue mountans where our coffee is from

[Kristoffer]

Nice, sorta looks like Greece

[Starchaser107]

(catching breath~)

those monks that made these ****ing forms had way too much ****ing time on thier hands.

ok gonna practice some more...

[chen zhen]

it looks like yo ass (pic)

[Former castleva]

MY,Thanks.

[Kristoffer]

.......your saying that pic of green hills and nature looks like Mings ass?

[Kristoffer]

lol

[chen zhen]

no, yours


drive safely

:up yours:

:D

[Former castleva]

"http://members.aol.com/waponi/photos/minilux/brp07.jpg"

Great scene.
Every time I see such,I cannot help but visualize a herd of sauropods making their way trough the vegetation. :cool:

[Kristoffer]

drive safely you hoe :D

[Former castleva]

Drive safely.

[Kristoffer]

NEW TOPIC:

cactus plants

[Former castleva]

"And long silence followed...".

[Starchaser107]

nice direction. catus are among my favourite plants. I think some of them are quite beutiful. a cactus is a man's kind of plant.

[Vash]

My girl friend killed a cactus one time.

[Former castleva]

Cruel or cool,Vash?

As far as else goes,drive safely.

[Starchaser107]

thats evil.


prepare to die...

drive safe guys.

[shaolin kungfu]

mine does:eek:

[Vash]

I'd say duuhhh. She was gone for three months. It died in the interum.

God, time for some Gatorade, Peanut Butter Toast, and 9 hours.

Drive safe.

[Starchaser107]

mnn.peanut butter.

its ok to kill a plant if youre going to eat it i suppose.

[Kristoffer]

nice direction. catus are among my favourite plants. I think some of them are quite beutiful. a cactus is a man's kind of plant.

exactly my thought. My girl gave me a cactus plant a while ago coz all flowers in my care eventually die in some horrible way. I'm really excited coz this is the first plant that survived. It's grown to be alot bigger than it was at first.



For the record, my ass has no trees.

That's..... Good I guess :D

[Kristoffer]

japanese's sex orgies in China angers the chinese. People of China is speaking of boycotting all japanese trades.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=148&a=187619&previousRenderType=2


"380 males and 500 prostitutes"
"They had sex everywhere, in the elevators and the lobby etc"
"Many chinese is upset over the incident taking place during the year day of the beginning of the japanese ocupation of China 18 sept 1931"

[chen zhen]

"for the record, my ass has no trees"

yes it does, but u know, it was actually not your ass i was talking about
:p

"mine does"

those are called pimples

[chen zhen]

im kinda happy today

guess why:D

[Kristoffer]

u got some action?

[bodhitree]

I want to participate in a Japanese sex orgy....

but then it wouldn't be a Japanese Sex orgy:

It would be a Japanese/Irish sex orgy:)

Emmmmmmmmmmmm

[Kristoffer]

Guess that's sorta cool.. if u ditch all the guys. That's disgusting. And prostitutes is really nasty to, even if they look good it just feels disgusting.

[bodhitree]

Just pretend they aren't prostitutes;)

I didn't read the article, I just read sexorgy!!!!

[Kristoffer]

corz u didn't read it, it's in swedish :D

the whole prostitute thingy is as far as I understand pretty common in China. My hotel in Beijing was pretty much a fancy brothel conceiled in a hotel. They weren't so agressive though, you could just sit and watch football n drink beer without them bothering u (wich is what we had in mind to do. We didn't even realize what was goin on until later.)

[chen zhen]

u got some action?

nah, then I would have been REEAL happy.

****, that made me kinda depressed.. theres other things that would have been better to be happy about..:(

b!tch ass! now u ruined my good mood

:p

[Starchaser107]

you're not allowed to have a bad mood today, Enjoy yourself.

[chen zhen]

I am enjoying myself;)

I got The Prodigal Son on dvd as a present, from a friend. that is one cool flick. check it out doggs.

[Starchaser107]

I'm not usually up this early. today's gonna be busy here.
yeeeeeee:(

[mizri da quiet storm]

WHAT IS THIS THREAD ABOUT?

[Ming Yue]

ahhh...

the eternal question, is it not?

the pessimist says this thread is about nothing, and the optimist says this thread is about everything.

they're both right.
:cool:

[Starchaser107]

listen to ming yue , she knows what she's talking about

[Ming Yue]

I should make up t-shirts that say that.
:D

[chen zhen]

reminds me of seinfeld

[Starchaser107]

everybody seemed to have some sort of disorder of one kind or the other on that show.
still, it was very entertaining though.


very erratic.

[Former castleva]

"WHAT IS THIS THREAD ABOUT?"

Nice first post.Already asking questions. :D
Welcome.

[Vash]

It's the isness in the bidness.

[Starchaser107]

must be.

[Kristoffer]

the eternal question, is it not?

Indeed. The answer is found within yourself rather than in these texts. This thread is nothing as it is also everything. You cannot describe it in words. because there is no word for it to use. It is the Tao. It is butter. Think of it as the true path to attaining a certain mindset. Some harness the complex armour of it's external shell, this is wrong. You shall reach within, reach beyond the butter!

[Starchaser107]

be like butter my friend.

[Starchaser107]

Chen there is a hsing-I video clip on the main forum done by a shaolin-do practicioner. can u look at it at some point and tell me what you think. Its in the thread posted by Waterdragon.

[Starchaser107]

Kris, u said something about soldier?

[Kristoffer]

..soldier?

[Starchaser107]

isn't that what they call ppl, in the military?

whats the term?

[Former castleva]

"Indeed. The answer is found within yourself rather than in these texts. This thread is nothing as it is also everything. You cannot describe it in words. because there is no word for it to use. It is the Tao. It is butter. Think of it as the true path to attaining a certain mindset. Some harness the complex armour of it's external shell, this is wrong. You shall reach within, reach beyond the butter!"

Nonsense. :)

[Kristoffer]

oh, yea 'soldier' :) Did u have a question bout our millitary?


FC.. hey.. you have offended the shaolin temple, 'the brink of' and my dog

[Starchaser107]

Yes. I do.

Is the Swedish Coastal Army an elite unit unto itself or is it part of a larger army? they have very nice boats with huge powerful weapons.

can you tell me more. chen says u guys make your own weapons.

[Kristoffer]

The coastal army in itself is not an elit force. there is however an elit companys within it that I don't know much about. I think it's about the same thing, coastal army (or coast hunters as they called here)
It's divided to the Naval army: out on the sea, with bigger war ships. You know, the navy. Then there's coastal and the amphibious army. This is our 'marines' and this is what I'm gonna do. (Amphibious Battalion) They operate in both land and water with subs, smaller boats (with huge ass guns) bigger boats and tons of infantry troops with different speciallitys.

check it out here: http://www.amfss.mil.se/index.php?lang=eng


I'll try answer stuff if your interested. But now I'll go take a dump n then try to sleep. Peace y'all

[Starchaser107]

tnx.

it sounds like much fun...not the taking a dump part..the marine batallion part. nice.

driiiiiive Saaaafe :D

[Former castleva]

"
FC.. hey.. you have offended the shaolin temple, 'the brink of' and my dog
"

Sorry.


Chase,?Kris?,?Chase?,Kris,
drive safely,if you do.

[Starchaser107]

speaking of driving safe, some moron just reversed into my bumper while i was entering burger king. then the b!tch drove off, i took her licence plate number , but thankfully there was no damage to my car.:mad:

[Former castleva]

Too bad. :mad:

[Former castleva]

So,now I´m really driving safely. :)
Drive safely.

[Starchaser107]

and now to make things worse this arsehole come by to my yard to drop something off for someone, and that someone knows better than sending that f#ck!ng son of a b!tch to my side of the world.

[Vash]

D@mmit! I want a taco!

Drive safe all.

[Starchaser107]

I hope IsshinRyu gives you a strong stomach man, watch out 4 dem tacos

[chen zhen]

SC: the XY was not visible in the Sanshou clip, technique wise. But thinking that XY is a combat philosophy/theory and not directly a technique based system, then there might have been some XY involved. Ill have to check it again then.

but firing off Pi-Chuans with boxing gloves on is pretty much impossible anyway.

comment to Swedish weapons: I know they make their own, since I have gotten the information that sweden used to sell them to South Africa during the apartheid system.
swedish weapons sales had a major influence on the assasination of PM Olof Palme as well.

[quiet man]

Saddam from Iraq (http://www.liquidgeneration.com/poptoons/saddamfromiraq.asp)

and

Oh Saddamy (http://www.liquidgeneration.com/poptoons/bush_saddam.asp)

:D

[chen zhen]

:D:D:D

great stuff.

Im off from work, there major strikes all over the city. later ill go to a demonstration and stop the traffic on a highway:D (not alone, with others of course)

hopefully there'll be some action:cool:

[Kristoffer]

man.. you get to do all the fun stuff in denmark these days.

I'm off to french courses.............................. :rolleyes: :mad: :D

[Kristoffer]

oh n chen, officially there is no evidence to what motives got Palme killed. The south Africa probebly had something to do with it but there's no evidence found. In Anna Lindhs case it's beleived he's just crazy. I think he receantly told the papers he got mad during her campain, she bugged him. I doubt her murder had any underlying motives, at least nothing like in the Palme case.

[chen zhen]

yeh, it is a theory, about weapons sales+Olof Palme.

[Former castleva]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031001061055.htm

[Kristoffer]

just came home from work.. slow day to day

[Kristoffer]

tv awaits

[Former castleva]

What is TV going to provide you with?

[Kristoffer]

Tusenbröder 2 (=Thousand brothers 2)

A series. Probebly one of the best I've ever seen. Today was last episode and I just cant get it out of my head, really great.



Now.. sleep awaits :D What are u up to?

[Former castleva]

"Now.. sleep awaits What are u up to?"

It´s gonna be too silent then,drive safely.
Ah,I´m probably just going to swap trough some old articles/studies. :cool: :D


"Tusenbröder 2 (=Thousand brothers 2)

A series. Probebly one of the best I've ever seen. Today was last episode and I just cant get it out of my head, really great."

Oh.Good for you,never heard.It´s lame,really.All of the good series are gone. :(
Most of the good stuff is "Prisma".

[Kristoffer]

k too bad. most good stuff here is american, (not that surprising).


Smell ya later

[Former castleva]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1001_031001_biggestfish.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1001_031001_sharkfossil.html

:cool:

[bodhitree]

Drive safely y'all

Its 8am here on the east coast of America and theres never any of y'all here now.
television is inherently evil

[Kristoffer]

different time zones dawg. It's 14.29 here
Tv is evil, it'll b the downfall of humanity

[bodhitree]

Your saying that future tence, It already has been the downfall of human society, I mean, well, just look at us.

[Kristoffer]

Actually, Americans'll be the downfall of humanity. Americans and tv :D ..and H-bombs, can't forget about them. And terrorist groups and death viruses. And Michael Jackson and his army of molested children.


I think we're fine but the next gen or the gen after that'll be a disaster :)

[bodhitree]

I hate being an American, because your exactly right. we are responsable. Michael Jackson and his army of moelested children, what about the Catholic Church!!:eek:

[bodhitree]

Kris
I like the avatar!

[Kristoffer]

haha I found it funny too (the av)

I don't hate on americans just your goverment and the people who let people think for themself. I like New York, great city! I like to play around with the thought of being a guest on Leno :) That's like a dream to me lol.

[chen zhen]

Leno, gotta hate that big-chinned b@stard.

[Kristoffer]

he's fun, when he aint actin up his role as a retarded american lap dog

[bodhitree]

Leno isn't even funny,
now Conan O'Brian is a funny muthashutyomouth

[chen zhen]

he's fun, when he aint actin up his role as a retarded american lap dog

which he does 99.9% of the time..:rolleyes:

now Letterman is great, he does a lot of Dubya-dissing as well.:);)

[Kristoffer]

Is there any talk show host in Denmark chen? There's one here, Late night with Luuk. It's not that good but they get some cool guests. Last week 50 Cent was on. really **** funny

[chen zhen]

no, there has been some half-assed attempts, but nothing else.

50 dat nr 1 beeyach was on? cant believe it. I know he was in Denmark doin a wackass concert. guess he was in sweden too.

[Starchaser107]

i tried getting on last night but i wasnt able to log in

oh well. I'm on vacation now. jus chillin'..literally

[Starchaser107]

i'm not really big on airports , so i was kinda anxious abt. that i guess thats why i needed so much tea. Im here chillin with my gf.
ahm maybe one of these days i'll try to link up with norther practicioner or something.

[Kristoffer]

Were are ya now?

[Starchaser107]

all was revealed in the teaser thread:)

[Kristoffer]

Oooh cool. Travelin is the greatest!
I wish u and your girl all the best

[Starchaser107]

:D kewl
tnx man!

[Vash]

Straight Pimpin.

Drive Safe all.

[chen zhen]

Ill go to Istanbul in a few months:)

itll be nice, I never get to travel much.

[Kristoffer]

heeey that's great, Turkey has some awsome food, pretty good prizes too. You can buy tons of turk-kläder

[chen zhen]

turk-kläder?

u mean old cartigans & knitted caps?
:D

I cant wait for the food, and looking at the Turkish girls. they arent that traditional in Istanbul, so...hubba!;):p

[Kristoffer]

yea exactly! Daaaaaamn now I'm all hungry thinking of knicked caps and turkish food :(

d'oh

[chen zhen]

u forgot to mention the turkish p*ssy

:p


the inflation is just crazy down there, its like 5 kr=5000000 turkish pounds:eek:
the stocks can change from one moment to the other, so the money must be used immediately;)

[Kristoffer]

**** that's low then.. Much better than I thought

[Xebsball]

you know the day destroys the night
night devides the day

tried to run
tried to hide

break on trough to the other side!
break on trough to the other side!

[chen zhen]

my vale tudo club just recently joined this center. this is one mad place, check it:

http://www.combatsportsacademy.dk/frameset.asp

u can manage whatever of the more than 10 MA styles u wanna train, at any time of the day. that is one helluva good offer!

[bodhitree]

Hey y'all
be gone for the weekend
Drive safe now ya hear.

[chen zhen]

drive safely.

dun let them get ya

[chen zhen]

Oh this s awful

http://test3.thespark.com/gaytest/

I dont have the balls to take the test:D

ok im off to a party. see yall, drive whatever the way u want.

[Former castleva]

Miss me?

[chen zhen]

if u are gone.. umm then maybe sometimes.


:D


see ya

[Starchaser107]

Ya,
and don't you ever disappear like that again young man.
sup castle?

[Former castleva]

O´kay dad ;) .

BTW,Chase,got any basic advice on drawing birds and such?

"see ya"

Bye.

[Starchaser107]

use a camera , take some studies of the bird in question.
birds wont usually sit still long enough to let you draw them, unless theyre in a cage. I dunno how you feel about animal slavery like that?
as much references as possible helps, even if you already have a image you like and want to work with. some things can be tricky to see. depends on what you want from the picture.
I like very detailed work, and i tend to use alot of line. but whatever you chose to do, reference and cross reference and it should be cool.
also spend time looking at the actual bird, seeing its movent mannerisms etc.
should be fun :)

[Former castleva]

Thanks for your time.
Here´s how it goes.I have barely dared to draw anything for years&years.I´m trying some paleoart (as it is called) and have been working on birds a bit.I need to use plenty of "references" to back me up for now.Coming from a comic background,this might take some effort. :cool:

[Former castleva]

"birds wont usually sit still long enough to let you draw them, unless theyre in a cage. I dunno how you feel about animal slavery like that?"

I´ve never had one.

[Starchaser107]

"Coming from a comic background,this might take some effort."
maybe ,
although this Does mean you're accustomed to holdind a pencil/pen and drawing in some way.
when doing this type of "scientific illustration" (I'm assuming thats along the lines of what youre doing), Its important to look and capture the convincing line rather than the embellishment.
but you already know this :p
have fun with it, I think you'll do well.

[Former castleva]

"although this Does mean you're accustomed to holdind a pencil/pen and drawing in some way."

Yeah.That may cause some issues.


Thanks.

[Former castleva]

Date:
2003-10-02

Roaming, Not Hunting, Is What Pacing Polar Bears Are Missing
Oxford scientists have found that carnivores have welfare problems in zoos because they are deprived of their naturally large territories, rather than because they are deprived of their abilities to hunt, as was previously thought.

After analysing data for 35 carnivore species, Dr Ros Clubb and Dr Georgia Mason from the University of Oxford found that polar bears, lions and other animals that would naturally roam very widely appear less able to cope with captivity than more stay-at-home species. These widely-ranging carnivores are noticeably most prone to welfare problems when kept in zoos such as repetitive back and forth pacing, and infant mortality. These results could explain why pacing polar bears are such a common sight in zoos, where they are usually kept in enclosures over a million times smaller than their natural ranging areas.

'We were surprised by the results because until now we had always thought that not being able to hunt was the biggest problem for zoo carnivores,' says Dr Ros Clubb. 'Because of this, zoos have concentrated on stimulating hunting-like behaviours to try to improve their welfare. But our results suggest that it's even more important to give these animals more space, or the day-to-day changes in environment they'd experience if they were ranging naturally.'

The researchers are calling for zoos either to improve how these wide-ranging species are kept, or to phase them out in favour of animals better suited to captive life. 'It's vital to get this right, as these animals are in double jeopardy,' says Dr Mason. 'Wide-ranging carnivores are particularly hard to conserve in reserves in their natural habitat – so it's especially worrying that they are also most prone to welfare problems in captivity.'

[Ming Yue]

nice post FC... I have such mixed feelings about zoos...

[Starchaser107]

what about circuses, pet owners and farms?

[Former castleva]

I get it,Ming.
It´s good,regardless,that research like this is being done.
It could be said that I have mixed feelings about zoo´s too.Just a few days ago I learned that orangutans may be extinct in 10-20 years because their natural habitats are being defeated (illegally).Should protection fail,the future of this species of ape might lie in artificial enviroments,which should be better than nothing.This does not relate directly to zoo´s,but I think it´s worth mentioning that I´ve kept rodents/hamsters for many years.The most well-known species being the famous gold hamster.Without tracing back too much history,gold hamsters may very well have been extinct in their natural enviroment for a long time.That mentioned,they survive as pets&there appears no end to their popularity.Catching my drift?

[Starchaser107]

no arguement, just thought id throw out the queston, it begged to be asked

[Ming Yue]

I lean more toward the pro-zoo side. Most animals settle into captive life pretty well if they get what the need: territory, food, mates, sanitary conditions, good health care. I read somewhere that most animals that escape thier cages at the zoo come back within a short time.

However still, sometimes captive animals make me sad. mixed feelings.

I'm a pet owner and I love them. 4 cats and a turtle, currently. I'd like to get a dog sometime soon.

I'm also pro-working animals, as long as they are cared for well. No creature deserves to be mistreated in any situation, but I think animal "labor" is valid and necessary - enables people to get things and go places otherwise impossible. Ever seen a sheepdog herding? It's obviously what they love to do. Unfortunately most working animals are not cared for well....

I'm not a vegetarian, I think it's ok to raise animals for food. Again, I believe even food animals should be kept in livable, comfortable conditions and should not be tortured when it comes time for them to die.

I don't support the use of exotic or endangered (non-food) animals for simple vanity. I myself will not buy a bearskin rug, a fur coat, or alligator shoes for example.

[Former castleva]

"I lean more toward the pro-zoo side. Most animals settle into captive life pretty well if they get what the need: territory, food, mates, sanitary conditions, good health care. I read somewhere that most animals that escape thier cages at the zoo come back within a short time.

However still, sometimes captive animals make me sad. mixed feelings."

Yeah,yeah.The problem is that not always do the animals fit in,and sometimes the conditions are absolutely horrible.That said,I´ve known&seen a dog owner or two who have absolutely no clue as far as taking care of their pets goes.

"I'm a pet owner and I love them. 4 cats and a turtle, currently. I'd like to get a dog sometime soon.
"

That´s a lot of company.

" Ever seen a sheepdog herding? It's obviously what they love to do. Unfortunately most working animals are not cared for well...."

Well,yes.I think that the domestic dog is really an exceptional species among working animals.Not because of it´s descent or abilities but rather that the enviroment inhabited today is all they ought to know about.And yes,sheepdogs habits are literally written in blood (or rather DNA) so... .

"I'm not a vegetarian, I think it's ok to raise animals for food. Again, I believe even food animals should be kept in livable, comfortable conditions and should not be tortured when it comes time for them to die."

I see.Just recently,I gave up a lot of that (meat).I still eat fish but that´s where I´ll try to draw the line at.

"I don't support the use of exotic or endangered (non-food) animals for simple vanity. I myself will not buy a bearskin rug, a fur coat, or alligator shoes for example."

Over here,there´s currently a great argument over fur animals (sp?) due to attacks etc.
I´d like to see it getting criminalized,end of the problem.

[Ming Yue]

absolutely agree on the fur animals. I dont buy products tested on animals either, and I try to buy organic meats, dairy and eggs, but I can't always afford to.

Saw a woman at the San Francisco zoo once wearing a fur coat. She didn't last long - was chased out by a well-deserved barrage of verbal abuse.

[Ming Yue]

well gents,
it's 5 pm friday here (yay!), so I'm leaving work.
I just built a new PC at home, not sure if I'll get the internet hooked up this weekend or not. If it rains, maybe, if it's sunny, probably not. :D

So on behalf of the token blond chick of ORA, drive safe and have a legendary weekend!

-Cynthia

[Former castleva]

Have a nice one/weekend.

[Kristoffer]

oh I missed everybody. Had a nasty training today. Drew blood
**** I gotta rest. Hey most Zoo's are good coz they take in extinct animals and try to breed up more. On the other hand pretty much all Zoo's in Asia should be closed down. Was at the Beijing Zoo... HORRIBLE, the whole place was just disgusting and all animals were undernurished and acted mentally instable.


Oh and Dogma is a great movie. **** my head hurts

[Former castleva]

I think Dogma is lame.

"On the other hand pretty much all Zoo's in Asia should be closed down. Was at the Beijing Zoo... HORRIBLE, the whole place was just disgusting and all animals were undernurished and acted mentally instable."

That sucks.


"Hey most Zoo's are good coz they take in extinct animals and try to breed up more. "

Not really extinct,eh?

[Kristoffer]

well, 'nearly' extinct then... :)
Why didn't u like Dogma? I'm curious.. (although I'm guessing that since you never had a single drop of faith this movie is just boring to you, am I right? :D ) I've been in a period of my life were I would call myself a 'beleiver'. But not now. I still find religions very interesting though.

[Former castleva]

He,he.Well,I did not have faith in the actors,foul language,odd violence,this ?popular? pair of comedians (what do you call these guys?),strange jokes etc.
Simply put,not my kind of stuff.Give me Jim Carrey and the folk any day. :D I think I liked the scene when ?Matt Damon? told this nun to relax a bit and so on,but that´s pretty much all of it.

[Kristoffer]

so it was the jokes rather than the story then? :D
haha, well I wouldn't call it out rage funny but it's like a kick in the ass for religious ppl. Sorta. I like the scene were The two angels in human shape enters an elevator talking:
'fu(king would be great but we'll do the next best thing.. kill people!" And some ppl in the elevator just freaks out. That's comedy my friend

[Kristoffer]

yo chen

[chen zhen]

some wack party I was at.. me and my homeboy and a couple of Afghans who invited us was at this lame party, they were all arabs, turks, pakis.. and only a couple of faishas, and even they were ugly as f*ck they played all that, thinking they were fine.
then me and my cuz almost got into a fight with 8 arabs. we could easily have taken them, those arabs from that hood are small and weak as hell. but the party-thrower broke it up. they went up to us, sayin "why u starin at us? wanna take it outside"? but we kept it gangsta, we just kept starin at their b!tch-ass faces. if it were from my hood bgp they would have jumped us right away or stabbed us, but they didnt. they just played perk-p*ssies.

drive safely yall.

[Former castleva]

Take it easy down the ghetto,chen. :D
Drive safely.

Kirst,yeah.It was more like a free-thought movie.

[Former castleva]

Talking about that,the last good flick I watched was the latest interpretation (1999) of "Inherit the Wind",based on the famous Scopes trial (well,if you´re familiar with biology and it´s history in America...you´ll know).It was a decent interpretation.

[Kristoffer]

I almost had a fight too, on my way home this night. Me and my pal from the kwoon sat and talked in the subway when this big ass greek come up to us and starts mumbling. First I think he's just another junkie/homeless/mental wanting some spare change. He doesn't know any swedish just some english n he was high as a kite.

First he wanted to fight me, but after grabbed my tensed up arm he was surprised how muscular my arm was. :D So he backed up and wanted to grab my friends nose (wtf?). I then stood up and gave him the 'back-off-look' and after that I have no idea what he wanted. He was so messed up. Hardly understood what he said just something about Knockouts, head-buttings and fighting. I think he wanted me and my friend to fight eachother (lol) but after realizing that we're friends he wanted us to fight random people WITH him.


.... We managed to high five him and slipped in to a different train cart than him. Sounds like yo man had a better night than me chen. Atleast you got some booze :D

[Kristoffer]

Former, never seen that. Seen Bladerunner with Harrison Ford? I dig that one

[Former castleva]

Maybe you should watch it.
I think I´ve had Blade Runner.I´ve seen it,I think.
Strange movie,really.
Ford is good,especially when he goes Jones and so on.

[Kristoffer]

this's his greatest movie ever made, IMO
it's sorta depressing to watch, but I like it

[Kristoffer]

****.. nottin on tv. nothing left to do than gettin some sleep. have a good night people


peace

[Former castleva]

Drive safe.

[Starchaser107]

maaan...u guys have a good weekend.:cool:

[Former castleva]

You too.

[chen zhen]

K: u should have grabbed his nose, u knw those greeks.. they have some big-ass noses.;)

but what would have happened if u fought him.. he was drunk and hi, and he was only a puss. u would have knicked him with ease.
I would probably have ended in the hospital, since we were 2 peebs against 8+, and probably more if they called for backup. a lot of Senegalans(sp?) would have joined the brawl too. good it didnt evolve into that..:(:eek:

we actually called for backup when we left, we had plans of showin up with the most notorious street gangs around..:D. gotta have the right connections. but their cells were shut off, so.. they were probably out smokin pot or some sh!t..
:rolleyes:

[Kristoffer]

yea probebly

[chen zhen]

f*cked up world we live in.

well, im off to Muay Thai.

see ya.

edit: look at my post-count. magic number!:)

[Kristoffer]

street violence sucks, usually :)

SOme numbers are strange..Every night there's a magic minute when the clock hits the 22.22


Have fun at training

[Kristoffer]

シネマティック

[Kristoffer]

why can't I write this as my caption text under the avatar? :confused: If it works in the ordinary message post why not there?


....hmmmm

[Kristoffer]

aaah **** it

[chen zhen]

f*ck, they made new training hours and got a new room for training, and i couldnt find it..:mad:

so no training for me today either. hate it!!:mad::mad:

some faishas they are for not lettin me know.

[Kristoffer]

give em a call.

[Xebsball]

i see some asian stuff on your signature

[Kristoffer]

it means 'online'

[Former castleva]

Kris etc. how is?

lol at your story.It was great.
I´d have liked to witness that (even though it might not have been funny to you).

[chen zhen]

hmm
no "lol" to my story..:(


:rolleyes:

[Former castleva]

Probably not.How do you get into situations like that?

[chen zhen]

just unlucky I guess.

the only good thing was that the few faishas who were present didnt mind gettin groped on. not that i did, but my friend did.:p he just went by them (2 hoz dancing with each other.. haram!!) and groped their asses. they didnt do a thing. I bet they get that all day.

[Starchaser107]

ernie reyes jr. fight scene in the rundown was cool. jungle scene was the best. anybody know what martial arts style the rock was using in that movie.. was some cool stuff nothing too unrealistic , a little vionent too :)

[Kristoffer]

lol at your story.It was great.

Well, maybe in retrospect ;)


he just went by them (2 hoz dancing with each other.. haram!!) and groped their asses. they didnt do a thing. I bet they get that all day.

This's why I like clubs

[Kristoffer]

ernie reyes jr. fight scene in the rundown was cool. jungle scene was the best. anybody know what martial arts style the rock was using in that movie.. was some cool stuff nothing too unrealistic , a little vionent too


hm? what movie`?

[Former castleva]

Is this for real?
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25747

[chen zhen]

it wasnt a club. it was in some clubhouse (so club in that sense) in this b!tch-ass ghetto.
and I even bet those hoz were minors as well. makes them even more ho-like *spits in disgust*

[Kristoffer]

I also have 7 white stripes on my black belt to prove my qualifications. So, you can definitely see that my qualifications speak for themselves!


You heard the man! Look at those fruity white stripes on his belt, that means he's legit! how great! ..........:rolleyes:


**** this *****

[Kristoffer]

chen,
k

[Former castleva]

Yeah.Pretty much I guess.

[Kristoffer]

*listening to the Ghostbusters theme by Ray Parker Jr*



nananaaanana bustin makes me feeeeel gooood

[chingei]

Originally posted by Kristoffer
it means 'online'


?

[Kristoffer]

you need to build up that question with more words chingy

[Former castleva]

"nananaaanana bustin makes me feeeeel gooood"

Excellent song.Reminds me that I should download it. :)

[chen zhen]

chen,
k

lol

[chen zhen]

peebs should download songs for me.

i dun have kazaa, and i dun wanna buy cd's.

help a brother out, mayn:p

[Kristoffer]

do that :)

[chingei]

Originally posted by Kristoffer
it means 'online'


who told you that?

[chen zhen]

no-one saw my replies, answer me.

[Kristoffer]

sorry chen we posted almost at the same time. corz I can dl tracks for ya. (but I gotta ask, why not install kazaa or sumtin?)


chingy I read it on a site somewhere. You think it means something else than online? :)

[chingei]

Originally posted by Kristoffer

chingy I read it on a site somewhere. You think it means something else than online? :)

been scratchin' me head over that. sure doesn't sound like 'online' to me........Idunno

[Kristoffer]

Hmm.. I have no idea what it might mean if not online. (don't speak japanese, only know random words/sentences)
I sent sho a pm about it too, he might know

[chen zhen]

I cant find a mac version of kazaa, and on top of that I dont use my own computer, and the owner wont allow me to install it.
:mad:
can u help me? it would be great.