New Mantis Student here

[keef321]

Hi,

Just thought I would introduce myself to ya all.

Bit about myself, did ITF style TKD for about 6 years which was a challenge for me with my bad flexability. Started realising that TKD wasnt for me and was constantly looking and trying other arts out, especially the grappling arts which were becoming popular at the time as I wanted combat effectiveness but didnt really enjoy them. Although I was told TKD was an effective art (I`m sure it is when taught as that) it annoyed me that no-one ever used anything from the forms or even one step when sparring, might as well just be kick-boxing!

At this time I unfortuantley ended up with a nutty neighbour which made me ill through stress so I started up meditation with the local buddist group. i do believe that the TKD did not help me with this situation but hinder me because I was taught to be tense alot, which only aggrivates the fight/flight syndrome and its resultants (constant headaches etc).

I was searching for a Wing Chun teacher but by accident I came across what is now my mantis teacher which is great, the art really seems to suit me, which to me is unusual as I am a short ass (5ft5) therefore techniques arnt normaly suited for me from other systems I have tried. The grapple action allows me to on occasion bring the oppenent down to my height which is good It has applications from the forms that can be used (and I do use) and it is complimented with the Chi Gung (which I apply meditation theory to, is this Ok?).

Anyway better not bore ya to much ;-) Would be interested in any comments.

Cheers

[Skarbromantis]

Welcome to the wonderful world of Praying Mantis.

Skard1

[ursa major]

Originally posted by keef321
... I am a short ass (5ft5) therefore techniques arnt normaly suited for me from other systems I have tried. The grapple action allows me to on occasion bring the oppenent down to my height which is good It has applications from the forms that can be used (and I do use) and it is complimented with the Chi Gung (which I apply meditation theory to, is this Ok?).

Anyway better not bore ya to much ;-) Would be interested in any comments.

Cheers

Welcome to the board keef321.

hahaha 'short ass' ??? My first Sifu was a foot shorter than me and weighed 60 pounds less and regularily showed me how size doesn't matter haha...

I'm not surprised PM suits you (shameless plug) IMHO it is the most natural system therefore easily adapted to anyone who has arms and legs and a desire to learn.

Regards,
UM.

[00SS]

Hey Keef -

welcome aboard.. i just found this site about a week ago myself.
It's great that they actually have a forum for just Tang Lang :)

doing any Wing Chun yet ;)

[hungy]

Welcome to the board. Reading your post encouraged me to write something. Most of the time I just stay silent and read the world of information that comes our way. I am a beginer as well thus do not have much to share. Looking at your profile it seems that you are in England. Are you learning from one of sifu dereck fearson's student or even sifu derek fearson himself? Regardless, welcome to the mantis family.

[keef321]

Thanks for your replies!

Hi OOSS, nice to see you again (martialartsplanet), yes its great that there is a forum dedicated to Tang Lang. At least here one can have discussions without all the MMA telling us everything is crap in TMA/CMA all the time ;-) Its good that people can discuss different views but they do seem to be set in the MMA and Anti-TMA ways in martialartsplanet.

Hungy, ahhh another beginer like myself, it can be quite daunting reading some of the posts. Yes I am learning from a student of sifu Derek Frearson, he seems to be very knowledgable and highly into the practicle applications of the art. How do you know of sifu Derek Frearson?

My sifu is away this week so organised for me to train with a tiger stylist, I was suprised at the similarities that could be found, certainly opened my mind even further. We basically did a lot of one step, he used his tiger techniques, me the mantis, certainly opens your mind up, great experience.

P.S. The tiger guy said that Wang Lang was small in height like myself therefore thats why the system suits me well, does anyone know if this is true?

[MantisifuFW]

keef321,

Wang Lang's size has, as I know it, never been something remarkable as either large frame or small. In Qingdao, they speak of him as having great strength and agility from his Gongfu training. Near Mt. Lao Shan, (where many believe Wang Lang invented Tanglang near the end of the Ming Dynasty), he is known by another name Yu Qi, and in one legend was reported to be able to hold a great weight and leap over a wall.

Were you guys able to get the Quarterly? The next issue has a long article about the Wang Lang legend.

Steve Cottrell

[keef321]

Hi Steve,

Thanx 4 the post, I will indeed get my sifu to get the next issue through Derek Frearson, looking forward to the read!

[PAMantis]

Hello keef321, and others, I am also a new mantis student studying the 7* style. I have been reading and learning a good deal so far, and hope to eventually be able to add some worthwhile comments.

I really just wanted a chance to introduce myself here as well as welcome another new student.

Thank you all for the knowledge that is shared here.


PAMantis

[keef321]

Hi PAMantis,

Nice 2 hear from ya.

So how long have you been studying 7*PM now & Out of interest what is the lineage?

I have only been studing it 4 about 7 months now but am finding that things are starting to react more mantis style naturally already, which is nice.

Keef

[PAMantis]

I have been studying hard for about two months now. I have been doing a lot of research, and practicing what my sifu instructs (hard core). The lineage is (and this is what I think is the right answer to your question haven't really picked up too much on it) is Lo Kwong Yu. My sifu was a student o sigung Funk.

If I'm totally wrong sorry. please no one flame me for being ignorant. I'm still learning, and I know how passionate people are about the different styles and lineages. Be gentle and instruct me.

PAMantis

[hungy]

Keef,

I have been studying 7* for about a little over one year. It has been pretty eye opening. I also train under the CCM... Chui Chi Man lineage. Keef my sifu is a kung fu brother of Sifu Dereck Fearson. They are both disciples of Si Gung Lee Kam Wing. My sifu is sifu John Cheng. Hey PaMantis, don't worry too much. I guess we are all here to learn. I personally think there is nothing to get worked up about when lineages are named. It just tells you who your kung fu family members are. Technically we are all family. I would even go as far as saying that all mantis are family, but that is my personal opinion. Keef, just know that if you are ever in Los Angeles, or Orange County look us up you have kung fu cousins here.

[keef321]

PAMantis,

Its good to see that you are enthusiastic but make sure you dont burn yourself out! otherwise you will never reach your potential.

Hungry,

Ah ha another student who`s teacher is a kung fu brother of sifu Derek frearson, what a small world we live in :-)

Thanx 4 the offer, yes If I ever happen 2 b at that side of the world I will say hello and the same offer back, if u ever pass through South Yorkshire in the UK u r more than welcome!

This year in Barnsley (not far from me) we have Lee Kam Wing coming to the Summer camp, I am looking forward to this, we are fortunate to have him come here!

Nice 2 here from you.

Keef

[MrB]

Hi Keef321

I used to train under Sifu Alan Smith who is one of one of Sifu Derek Frearson's students. I was always impressed at how dedicated both Sifu's are to 7 star praying mantis.You have made a good choice of Martial art. Good luck in your studies.
I'd definitely recommend going to see Lee Kam Wing.

[webbb82]

Hi, Keef 321 and Mr.B - Where do you guys train in the UK?

Regards,

Webbb82 (England).

[keef321]

hi webbb82,

I train in Doncaster & Dinnington (Worksop/Sheffield Area), where do u train?

[MrB]

Originally posted by webbb82
Hi, Keef 321 and Mr.B - Where do you guys train in the UK?

Regards,

Webbb82 (England).

I used to train in Peterborough.
I haven't trained in a while though and hope to go back soon. Got to shift a bit of flab first(12lb's gone already thanks to training and diet).

And you?

[NorthernMantis]

Originally posted by ursa major


Welcome to the board keef321.

hahaha 'short ass' ??? My first Sifu was a foot shorter than me and weighed 60 pounds less and regularily showed me how size doesn't matter haha...

I'm not surprised PM suits you (shameless plug) IMHO it is the most natural system therefore easily adapted to anyone who has arms and legs and a desire to learn.

Regards,
UM.


Not to sound like a punk or anything but I have met many people who left mantis because they felt other arts were more natural and suited them more (mostly internal) and one time I even heard that somone supposedly left mantis for dare I say it....tkd. Don't get me wrong or anything I love mantis and find it to be very effective but it's not the end all be all fighting style. People like different things and it's expected for them to.

Oh and keef don't feel bad I'm 5'5 myself and 135 and that's just becuae I gained pounds ever since I started going out wiht my girlfriend!

[webbb82]

Hi Keef and Mr.B,

I'm based in Worcester.

Good luck with your training,

Webbb82.

[keef321]

Hi Nick,

Nice 2 hear from another new starter :-)

TKD like all arts has something to offer, I do not regret my years of training in it because I enjoyed it at the time and might not have got interested in martial arts if not for it, but like you thought that it had something missing.

The mantis system certianly does seem to be rounded and varied, think there is a lifetime of study!

[monkeyfoot]

mr b

what is your name and when did you stop training with sifu alan at peterborough

craig

[waylander]

Webbb82 ,
Who do you train under in Worcester ? I had heard that the LKW club there had closed ?

[waylander]

Keef321,
You say that you are new to 7 star and have only been training for 7 months under shifu Frearson ? Why are you using the same handle as one of his instructors from the Moi Fa Chinese Boxing Academy who according to his profile has been training since 1993 ? A shifu David Graham who uses Keef321 for his email address ? Are you one in the same ? If so then you are an instructor not a beginner .

[keef321]

Keef321,
You say that you are new to 7 star and have only been training for 7 months under shifu Frearson ? Why are you using the same handle as one of his instructors from the Moi Fa Chinese Boxing Academy who according to his profile has been training since 1993 ? A shifu David Graham who uses Keef321 for his email address ? Are you one in the same ? If so then you are an instructor not a beginner .

Waylander,

I personally think a private message would have been more appropriate, but as you ask in the open I will reply in the open.

Let me help you clear up any confusion as follows:

1) This post was originally started by me in 2003, so it was in 2003 that I had only been training for 7 months, it is now 2006 and this thread has just been resurected by monkeyfoot.

2) If you read the posts correctly you will notice I stated "I am learning from a student of Sifu Frearson", as in my Sifu.

3) Yes Sifu David Graham uses keef321 for his CLUB CONTACT email address, I am just simply doing him a favour as he does not have regular internet access. He asked me to deal with Internet requests on his behalf. I simply deal with queries for him, reply on his behalf etc, anyone contacting this email address is made aware that I am a student not the sifu but if necessary will relay questions etc.

4) I am not using Sifu David Grahams handle, this has always been my handle and email address. When Sifu dave does post on the net it is under his own handle.

I hope this clarifies things, sorry for any confusion.

P.S. Why the detective work over my Profile?

[Crushing Step]

P.S. Why the detective work over my Profile?

It happens, man... All in the name of lineages and legitimacy, a lot of people (myself included) like to verify that incoming information is sound. I wouldn't take offense to it.

$.02

[keef321]

It happens, man... All in the name of lineages and legitimacy, a lot of people (myself included) like to verify that incoming information is sound. I wouldn't take offense to it.

$.02

JJMantis,

Thanks for your explanation on the matter, no offense is taken :-)

[waylander]

Keef321,
No offence mean't .My own fault for not reading the dates correctly . It is from passed experience that people like to pretend to be less ( or more ) than what they are or like to use others details , as to why ?