Running blows ass

[IronFist]

Holy ****. After talking to my girlfriend (the marathoner) and my friend (Mr. "I can run six miles and not be tired"), I decided to go for a run today for the first time since Senior year in highschool (when we had to run).

Ok, I haven't done any form of cardio for 4 years. Why? Because I'm such an ectomorph and I'm too superficial to worry about "cardio health" when it means I would be burning even more calories than I already do. You guys have seen the pictures that I posted... I never do cardio, ever, and I'm around 8% bf. If I ran regularly I would be like 20lbs lighter.

So I measured a path out with my car today. 1.2 miles! In highschool I was never even able to run one mile without stopping running and walking part of the way.

It took me 15 minutes, but I ran all 1.2 miles. For me, this is a lifetime best. :D Wait, "run" is not the right word. It was more like a jog. A very slow jog as it went on, but I never stopped jogging even once.

I was in so much pain it was unbelievable. I think this hurt worse than 20rep squats.

When I finally got back to my apartment and stopped jogging, I was seeing bright lights (kind of like if you close your eyes and rub your eyes really hard).

I can't believe people think running feels good.

Now I need to go eat 5,000,000 calories to make up for this.

I'm almost jealous of mesomorphs. In order for them to be at a good level of bodyfat they have to do a bit of cardio, which as a result gets them in good cardio shape. So they're in good cardio shape and look good (keep muscle). For me, I either look good (keep muscle), or can be in good cardio shape.

Oh yeah, when I finished, my pulse was 156 bpm. Is that bad?

IronFist

[Suntzu]

i agree... running blows...

Oh yeah, when I finished, my pulse was 156 bpm. Is that bad? from what i remember from wearing my HR monitor... that was a moderate-to-tuff w/o... how long did u maintain it? but that is kinda tuff for the 1st one...

[ewallace]

Try running with a bone missing from your leg. That's really interesting. :)

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

running does suck ass. i fu cking hate it. i keep thinking about taking satan for jogs rather than walks, but then i think what are you fu cking kidding me.

[fa_jing]

Weren't squats a b!tch when you first started? You have to run through the discomfort. It does suck for a long time - - even longer than squats, and you're like "why am I doing this?" But after you stick with it, you start to love it. VERY important is to run on a non-hard surface like a dirt or gravel trail, and in a nice area.

That said, I don't run long distance anymore, LOL. Cause I don't live near or know about such an ideal running track close by. Any suggestions Chicago folks? I won't run on those paved bike trails.

[Laughing Cow]

Running ain't much fun.

Luckily close to my Ap we got an free dirt running track with a big grass area in the centre.

I like running there among other enthusiasts and I can either head of to the side or center for some MA training, plus they also got a form exercise path next to it with wooden structures.
Great for stretching, chinups, etc.

Usually you can find quiet a few MA there too.

Cheers.

[IronFist]

Originally posted by fa_jing
Weren't squats a b!tch when you first started? You have to run through the discomfort. It does suck for a long time - - even longer than squats, and you're like "why am I doing this?" But after you stick with it, you start to love it. VERY important is to run on a non-hard surface like a dirt or gravel trail, and in a nice area.

Sure, squats were a *****, for 8 or 10 reps, then it was over. I hated the run so much because it was 15 minutes of continuous suckage. How long does it take to squat 8 reps? 30 seconds? Yes, the absolute muscle pain of squatting is more painful, but running hurts my lungs (bad conditioning) more so than my muscles, and it hurts for much longer.

How long do I have to stick with it before I'll "love" it? I hope I don't lose too much weight.

IronFist

[fa_jing]

Look, think about it - you have the build of a running back. Many running backs are strong, big muscles, have great wind, and do plenty of cardio, albeit probably something more like H.I.I.T than long-distance running. But for lots of althletes, they kick off their work routines with 1 mile runs, and may throw another 1 miler in there later on in the day. So I think that for the amount you plan to do, it shouldn't cause you to lose weight. But, one thing - the first mile often sucks, even when you get up to running 5-miles - because it takes you this long to warm up, get the blood flowing, etc. The last mile kind of sucks too LOL. Sounds like your first mile isn't hurting you, it's your last mile, LOL.

Maybe you should try running while holding 5-pound dumbells? I used to like that - got up to 3 miles with them.

[FatherDog]

I was in cross country when I was in high school.

My pulse when I'm laying down and resting is 90 bpm.

After I finished a run, my heart sounded like a Keith Moon drum solo :D

[shaolin kungfu]

Running makes my back hurt. is there anything i can do to get rid of this?


My pulse when I'm laying down and resting is 90 bpm

That sounds pretty high. Does anyone else think so?

[PLCrane]

Yeah, a resting pulse of 90 is a bit high, but it's still within normal range of 60-100 bpm. If you're a dog, the range is higher.

Here are some calculations for heart rate. The simplist one is 220 minus your age to find your max, then train at 60-80% of that.
ttp://www.janatrains.com/default.asp?ID=19

Hey, Iron Fist! Why do you want to run? Didn't you learn to fight so you wouldn't have to run? At that speed, you may as well walk. I walk 0.9 mi. in 12 minutes if I'm in a hurry.

This non-runner would recommend taking bigger steps. You'll get there faster and you won't jar your joints as many times. Don't go up and down, go forward.

ewallace, which bone???


PLC

[Robinf]

Iron,

How old are you? 156 for what I think is your age isn't too bad, but you could have gone faster without having any physical problems with your cardio system.

Try 220 minus your age and your resting pulse, multiply by .65 write it down, then by .85 and write it down, then add back your resting pulse to both answers. This is believed to be closer to the actual maxes you should have.

Running is not for everyone. Do you have any where to try swimming? It kills me. I am now down to 7:34 per mile for 3 miles solid, but it takes me almost 30 minutes to swim a half a mile.

[ewallace]

Right fibula. I had a vascular bone graft to repair a shattered clavicle.

[Ford Prefect]

I hear ya. When I bulk, I have to cut out cardio. I feel a whole lot better about myself when I start running again though...

[stubbs]

my resting pulse rate is about 50-52.

i've just got back into running myself, i hated running when i first started last year, but then i got to a stage where i could push myself as hard as i wanted and love it. i kinda ran with pure aggression which was a great stress relief and left me buzzing afterwards.
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[jun_erh]

You should run because pro boxers do like 5 miles in the morning. The mental part can be really hard. I know a woman who does ultra marathons (56 miles) she's really a manic bizzaro woman. Get into the masochism

[Starchaser107]

I'm not a fan of running, and Im of the opinion that running trains your body in an inappropriate way for fighting. Ive heard that running mixed with sprinting is better conditioning for fighting. Many runners find it hard to keep up in our type of kung fu work out, many kung fu people get exhausted after running too much.
Fighting usually requires sharp bursts and then stopping and starting or increasing and decresing the energy being used. (sparring at least ).
but running is more controlled. I guess thats why running coupled with sprinting might be better, but maybe still not the same.
Whereas running might be good for your heart . it might be bad for your knees as well, especially on these roads here.
imho

[IronFist]

Originally posted by Robinf
Iron,

How old are you?

I'm 22. 165lbs, 5'9" 8% bf.

156 for what I think is your age isn't too bad, but you could have gone faster without having any physical problems with your cardio system.

No, I could not have gone faster. I was about to die going as slow as I was.

Try 220 minus your age and your resting pulse, multiply by .65 write it down, then by .85 and write it down, then add back your resting pulse to both answers. This is believed to be closer to the actual maxes you should have.

:confused: That gives two answers. Mine should be inbetween there?

My resting pulse rate used to be like 60-70 but a few hours after I ran yesterday I went to WalMart and did the blood pressure thing and it said my pulse was 96bpm!!! I think my body really did not like all that running and still hasn't recovered yet.

Today my calves kill. It's funny, cuz it's not the muscle, it's above the muscle but below the knee. Like a tendon or something.

And my traps are sore, too, I must have some terrible running posture. I should get my girlfriend to correct it.

IronFist

[shaolin kungfu]

If you want a pretty good cardio work out that doesn't feel as crappy as running, try soccer.

[jun_erh]

We here at the steroid mafia would like to thank you for your faked attempt at running. Our products are truly the only way to health and martial skill. Your ruse was not only believable, but effective. No martial artists have been running at all lately. Kepp focusing on the downside of whatever you're NOT doing. Stay buff.
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[iron thread]

One basic rule is to swing your arms in a horizontal plane along the side of your body, when you keep your arms swinging within that plane, you stop twisting your body (your body follows your arm swing) and thus stop wasting some energy. Since you are new to this whole idea of cardio and running, you should start out with some walking. Say your goal is 3 miles. Walk 3 miles. Comfortable 3 miles walking, then move up to alternation. (example: Walk 1/4 mi, run 1/4 mi, walk # mi, run # mi) Replace walking with running as it gets easier. Eventually, you'll cover the whole 3 miles. Once you can cover considerable distance, get some running shoes, and mow down the miles.

[inic]

few things
1. make sure you have good posture, otherwise you're just hurting yourself.
2. run on dirt/grass/gravel, etc
3. SUCK IT UP YOU PANSY! :p
4. the first 10-15 min of running always sucks, after that is when you get your "2nd wind" so to speak and really get go long.
5. definetly do some sprints in their when you run... i suggest sprint 30 secs every 3 min... does wonders man..
6. SUCK IT UP YOU PA.... oh already said that.... but i'll say it again!!
SUCK IT UP YOU PANSY!

[monkey mind]

Yeah, for the best cardio training, you've got to throw in some sprints. But keeping up a good pace jogging can put you in a really nice zone, if you do it long enough. And man, there ain't nothing like runner's high. I've gotten a good rush from intense workouts & sparring sessions, but that endorphin rush from running long distances is in a class of its own (& I know a little bit about highs, natural & otherwise).:cool:

[Robinf]

Your heart rate during cardio should get up to between 153 - 179 bpm to be at between 65% and 85% your max. This will make your cardio workout optimal. You can stay at 65% if you're just going for health.

96 bpm?!? The Navy Seals would have told you to get wet and sandy. That's walking up the stairs.

[fa_jing]

Extend your neck, don't scrunch your neck, it's a very common mistake.