Bamboo Forest Praying Mantis

[red5angel]

I just started to train this style this past week and I have to say I am having a lot of fun! I was expecting a flowery martial art but it appears to be pretty no nonsense. There were some things we did that to me seem to require some really good speed and reflexes, however I would have to say about 80% of what I was shown was really useful.

[Jan Seung]

Who is your teacher?

[red5angel]

A man by the name of Jack Spizale, he was an assistant instructor for Gin Foon Mark.

[Brad]

Is this Southern mantis?

[LionDancer]

Red5Angel... Welcome to the Jook Lum Tong Long Pai (Bamboo Temple Southern Praying Mantis Family)!

[red5angel]

Brad, yes, Southern Mantis, Bamboo Forest Southern Mantis.

LionDancer, do you study Jook Lum Tong Pai? Where at?

[LionDancer]

Hello Red5angel,

yes, I studied the art/system in NY.

[cutter]

enjoy it, train hard and be prepared for the inevitable political crap that you will be exposed to. dont let that stuff interfere with your development.

[red5angel]

Cutter, I have been doing wing chun for about 5 years now so I am used to the political garbage, no one does it better then WC!

LionDancer, what did you think? who did you train with? What did you like and dislike most about the art?

[Jook Lum]

Hello red5angel!Ask Jack about the popcorn story or the story about when he asked if his fries were hot at Macdonalds.:)

[LionDancer]

Welcome Jook Lum!

Hello Red5...

Cutter is right, dont let the politics sway or distract you. As for my thoughts, I only have experience with two styles, Hung Gar and JLTL. Personal preference is JLTL as the one to be more effective for me.

I like HG as it has its own characteristics and provides a strong foundation especially for liondancing, but for internal strength development and maximizing striking effectiveness, I prefer JLTL. Both are effective and has its uses. I studied in NY under the late Master Lam.

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[HalfMoon]

Hi,

I'm a Chow Gar student from Hungary and I wish to ask something. One of my students goes to New York this summer maybe for a longer time, and he wants to train there too if it is possible. If you now Chow Gar or any other SPM schools in NY please inform me.

Thank you.

[chen zhen]

R5A, go to this old-ass thread about southern mantis. Firehawk posted a very good (but long) article about SPM here:
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1370

[red5angel]

thanks for the link chen zhen!

[chen zhen]

No prob, Rob.;)

it's a really good article.

[chen zhen]

i have some more for ya:
Master Gin Foon Mark's website:
http://www.masterginfoonmark.com/menu.htm

videos of him in action:
http://www.masterginfoonmark.com/movie_download.htm

photo's:
http://www.masterginfoonmark.com/thumbnail.htm
http://www.masterginfoonmark.com/stylethumbnail.htm

& some interviews with the man, how old-school training was like:
http://www.members.aol.com/_ht_a/martyeisen/mantis/Interview.htm

and apparently BL also trained SPM under GFM..:
http://www.members.aol.com/_ht_a/martyeisen/mantis/Lee.htm

Always good to help..;)

[HalfMoon]

So there is no one who can help me to find an SPM school in NY?

[chen zhen]

At least u have the possibility of finding one..:(

[LionDancer]

HalfMoon,

you can look for Milton Chin's school or Norman Chin's school. Both in NYC Chinatown area. Both studied Jook Lum Tong Long (SPM) under the late Master Chen Ho Dun who studied along with Master Gin Mark Foon under the late Great Master Lam Sang. Hopes this helps.

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[Jook Lum]

Hello Liondancer! Did Norman and Milton train under Master Chin Ho Dun at the sametime(and for the same amount of time)?Thanks

[LionDancer]

Hello Jook Lum, both trained under the late Master Chin Ho Dun at the same time and I believe for approx the same amount of time. Both also know Master Gin Mark Foon personally as he was Master Chin's si-hing. How have you been? We should continue with our written comparisions when you have some time.

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[Jook Lum]

Definitely!I look forward to it.:)

[HalfMoon]

Thank you LionDancer. I try to find information about that.

[LionDancer]

Let me know if you can not. I will get you their contact numbers when you are in NY.

[mr.wing]

Wowie those videos look ...well on a one to ten scale I would give them a 4, which is being nice.

[mantis-1]

mr wing care to elaborate? also which clips are you talking about

[jo]

Milton is up at the Freemason's on Canal Street, Norman is at the Chinatown YMCA on Hester Street.

Watch a full class.

Ask how much time each of them spends touching hands with thier students.

Ask Norman how much he charges for "First Gate" these days.

Caveat Emptor

[LionDancer]

Jo,

Milton is not teaching at the Freemason's club at this time.

[jo]

Thanks for the update.

I heard he was there last year.

Where is he now?

[jo]

Liondancer,

I heard that Milton's brother Doug is the one teaching up at the 'Masons. Is that correct?

[LionDancer]

Hi Jo,

that's what I've heard. Do you know Doug also?

[jo]

Norman, Milton, Doug, Melvin, Richard, Gordon......

To know one is to know them all. :-)

[Sam]

Does anyone know what time Dougie is teaching?

[LionDancer]

Then you and I might know each other also.....