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Serpent
06-24-2003, 11:15 PM
Hi Gene

I know there are more Chinese speakers on the boards, but you're the only one I can think of that's here regularly. Can you translate the inscription on this for me?

Cheers

http://www.shaolin.li/tumb/shaolinnl0184.jpg
Evad
06-25-2003, 12:34 AM
Here is a better shot of the same tablet for you to view.
Evad
06-25-2003, 12:40 AM
I could be mistaken about these being the same tablet comparing them, I do know that they are the same type of tablet a monument for a teacher of some sort. These could be opposing shots, one of the front and the other the back but they sure do look alot alike. And I'm not sure but I think that there has been more than one monument purchased for Master Sin. I'll research more thoroughly and see what we can find out, regardless any information you may be able to provide about the inscriptions would be very helpful.

Nevertheless I will provide a copy of the one for Master Sin just because I want to know what the character say anyway.
GeneChing
06-25-2003, 09:15 AM
As you enter Shaolin Temple, Sin's stele is on the right side towards the back. I'm not sure who set the first stele, but you can see from the pic that it's on the left.

And I'm not a Chinese speaker. But that doesn't mean I can translate. There are such things as Chinese dictionaries, you know. Of course, I have native speakers right next to me in this office too :cool:

Serpent's is "chan quan gui yi" = Zen Fist (or martial arts) return to one.

Evad's is "shao lin chao sen" = Shaolin holy place or Shaolin pilgrimage place. Nice pic of Venerable Shi Suyi.
Evad
06-25-2003, 09:21 AM
Thanks Gene for taking the time to check that out for us.
MasterKiller
06-25-2003, 11:23 AM
So it's not dedicated to him, as such, but just a memorial donated in his name?
PHILBERT
06-25-2003, 11:26 AM
Is he dressed as a Nascar driver?

Seriously, why do people sit there and stick 50,000 patches on there uniform? Ugh...I can't stand it. Makes me cringe. my uniform is plain black, with red button things. No patches, I hate patches.
dezhen2001
06-25-2003, 11:39 AM
maybe its a US thing? :confused: i never had any patches on any uniform i ever wore...

dawood
MasterKiller
06-25-2003, 11:41 AM
maybe its a US thing? i never had any patches on any uniform i ever wore...
I think it's a Karate thing.
dezhen2001
06-25-2003, 12:10 PM
i did Karate for 13 years - but maybe yuo mean Karrradee? :D

dawood
joedoe
06-25-2003, 04:32 PM
No, it's Karotty.
PHILBERT
06-25-2003, 04:47 PM
Tae Kwon Do does it too. And self appointed Super Ultra Mega Grandmaster Sokes.
Serpent
06-25-2003, 05:09 PM
Yeah, even I can tell that they're two different tablets. I even recognised "shaolin" on the second one! Go me!

So, neither of them are really anything to do with Shaolin-Do per se?
Serpent
06-25-2003, 10:51 PM
Any takers?
rubthebuddha
06-25-2003, 11:30 PM
i couldn't translate it to save my life, but i'll tell you what my guess is ... ;)
Evad
06-25-2003, 11:34 PM
The one that is attributed to Sin The does have a a dedication inscribed at the bottom in English that dedicates the stone to him. But thanks to Gene I would interpret it as being a commemorative tablet denoting a pilgrimage or whatever.
Serpent
06-25-2003, 11:44 PM
So the people that suggest it is a tablet at Shaolin in honour of Sin The' and his "Shaolin-ness" are lying?
Shaolin-Do
06-26-2003, 12:02 AM
I think we established what exactly it takes to get a tablet put up at shaolin temple when TKD had one put up...
Serpent
06-26-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Shaolin-Do
I think we established what exactly it takes to get a tablet put up at shaolin temple when TKD had one put up...

Really!? LOL. Must have missed that bit of info.

:)
Shaolin-Do
06-26-2003, 12:07 AM
Not talking about this thread, about in general.
This is an old argument. I dont think it was put up to prove that sin is "shaolin". It was bought. As were most the tablets there, to most kung fu masters.
Im very tired and I have to be awake at 7.
Good night.
Evad
06-26-2003, 12:53 AM
If someone claims that the tablet was put there to honor Master Sin, why are they lying? On what assumption are they lying? That the temple got word that Sin was coming and said hey let's put up a monument to him.

That some student bought the tablet and had it set in honor of Master Sin, yes the statement is true it's there to honor master Sin.

If they claim that this is proof positive of his Shaolin-ness, then they're uninformed and ignorant but not necessarily liars.
PHILBERT
06-26-2003, 12:57 AM
He still looks like a Nascar driver.
GeneChing
06-26-2003, 10:24 AM
At almost every buddhist site (and most Chinese sites no matter what religion) people set steles when they make a donation to the temple or religious site. I've seen them everywhere from Wudang to Bodh Gaya (where Buddha was enlightened.)

Nowadays, it's very difficult to set a stone at Shaolin, but Sin set his stone in the early years, when Shaolin really needed donations to begin rebuilding itself. I tried to set a stone myself over half a decade ago, but it got tooo difficult and expensive.
norther practitioner
06-26-2003, 10:28 AM
He still looks like a Nascar driver.
Is it the hair, or the patches?
rubthebuddha
06-26-2003, 10:28 AM
i'm with philbert on this one. patches are great for little boys and girls, but an adult?

i wonder if there's a contact phone number on his gi somewhere: "to advertise here, call 555-1212."
GeneChing
06-26-2003, 10:33 AM
LIghten up guys. You obviously need to buy some of these (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/patches.html).
norther practitioner
06-26-2003, 10:35 AM
Kung Fu (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/80-65.html) patches are great, but I really don't think I need one on my arm to tell me what I'm doing....:D
BeiKongHui
06-26-2003, 10:37 AM
Everyone knows you aren't are a real Krotty man unless you gi is decked out with your sponsers logo's and you have a *****in' mullet aka Kentucky waterfall.
MasterKiller
06-26-2003, 10:37 AM
Why is this under Chinese Arts? (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/80-73.html)
norther practitioner
06-26-2003, 10:38 AM
MK, you beat me too it....lol :D
rubthebuddha
06-26-2003, 10:41 AM
nah. i just need to not let my you-know-whats (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/45-41l.html) get in a bunch.
PHILBERT
06-26-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by norther practitioner

Is it the hair, or the patches?

The patches. The hair makes him look like a country singer and the face reminds me of Jackie Chan.
GeneChing
06-27-2003, 09:42 AM
This is the patch (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/80-78.html) you guys need.

As for Kajukenbo, it has Chinese roots. You'll also find it in Japanese patches (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/patchjapan.html). That's called cross-filing and I'd do the same for :eek: Shaolin-Do (if we had a S-D patch, that is...;) )
Judge Pen
06-27-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by GeneChing
This is the patch (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/80-78.html) you guys need.

As for Kajukenbo, it has Chinese roots. You'll also find it in Japanese patches (http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/patchjapan.html). That's called cross-filing and I'd do the same for :eek: Shaolin-Do (if we had a S-D patch, that is...;) )

I personally don't wear any of the patches Gene, but I bet I could set you up with some if you want. ;)
MasterKiller
06-27-2003, 10:42 AM
As for Kajukenbo, it has Chinese roots
Don't all Japanese and Korean systems have Chinese roots?
PHILBERT
06-27-2003, 10:47 AM
MK, thats debateable. You do know what Kajukenbo is based off right? I was about to write it up, but chances are you know.

Oh well, if not, Ka is Karate. Ju is JuJutsu. Ken is Kenpo. Bo is Chinese Boxing.
MasterKiller
06-27-2003, 11:02 AM
MK, thats debateable. You do know what Kajukenbo is based off right? I was about to write it up, but chances are you know.
I've read a few articles about it. Still looks like Kempo to me.