Again

[bodhitree]

Hey all
I'm quitting smoking again! I was researching TCM views of quitting smoking. The only thing I found was taking 'green tiger liver harmony' to help detox the system. Does anyone have any other advice? Much appreciated!:D

[bodhitree]

Who to call for help
American Lung Assoc.
1800-586-4572
American Cancer society
1-800-227-2345

[bodhitree]

http://www.lungusa.org/tobacco/quit_ben.html

[chen zhen]

how about a thread about quitting wanking?
:p

[bodhitree]

Dude
I just replaced cigarettes w/ wanking. I'm talking wanking 20 times a day, at the busstop, after meals, just keep on wanking!

[chen zhen]

That can't be healthy..
some people eat a lot, some starts wanking apparently, after quitting the f@gs (cigs, I mean)
:D

[bodhitree]

Dude I was just joking, no wanking. I'm just eating my committ losenges and avoiding things that make me feel like smoking. I got a break from classes right now and I no if I went outside I'd feel like smoking, so I'm in here talking to you. I actually plan on eating healthier now that I've quit, lots of fruits, veggies, tea, and water to help detox the system. And of course lots of practice. The lozenges came with a card to put in your wallet that said to name your top reasons for quitting and mine was to perform some longer forms better. If I practice short forms, I can do it with power and speed, but that starts going away after about 40 or 50 movements! NOT ANYMORE!!!!:) :) :D :p

[chen zhen]

Good for you.:)

I bet you're smokin' already in the moment I'm writing this..:p:D

[bodhitree]

not yet you b@$tard
thanks for the support! I'm about to take the bus home, here in downtown theres a lot of smoking temptation, but once I get home it will be much easier!

[Repulsive Monkey]

How about the Shenmen point in the ear thats the classic point for giving up addictions.

[bodhitree]

didnt know about it RM, thanks for bringing it to my attention, I'll lood it up!:cool:

[chen zhen]

How would u use that point? massage it, stick needles in it, whatever?

[ntc]

ShenMen point normally needs to be needled. A licensed acupuncturist who knows auricular (ear) acupuncture should be able to do this easily, as ShenMen is a very powerful ear point and is frequently used.

[ZIM]

IIRC, shenmen is located so: take your index finger and place it just inside your ear, gently go bakwards [towards the back of your head]. It is located at the join from earlobe to uh..ear. On the cartilage. If you scratch it, it feels kind of funny.. :)

I believe that accupuncturistas use a piece of gauze-tape with a pinhead in it to keep it stimulated during the recovery period.

I may be wrong here, so corrections would be most appreciated. Thanks!

[ntc]

Zim,

You are correct. Ear-tacs (as they are commonly called) are used as prescription for patients to place on this point. They are used in the same way as thumb tacks are for paper on the wall... the tac is a square about 2.5mm wide with a very fine pointed needle in the center. The tac is placed on the ShenMen point and kept there for a certain duration of time. However, many acupuncturists also frown on using these tacs as they are very prone to causing ear infections.

[Former castleva]

Certainly.Anytime you feel like smoking,carefully stab yourself with a needle,that should keep it away.

On a more serious note,you MAY want to keep with you some objects that resemble cigarettes.Not saying that they have to but for some,it can be the case of having something to hold&"play with".Know what I mean?

[chen zhen]

Maybe that would make more damage than good.. u have to keep away totally from the cigs, not having a substitute.

[bodhitree]

Whats up guys
5th day without a cigarette!!! I never got past 3 days, or even to 3 days for that matter. I've been using nicotene losenges, doing lots of qigong and practice, and eating lots of high fiber, high antioxident foods, oh and of cource drinking lots of water! It can be done!:D

[chen zhen]

congrats.;)

[bodhitree]

Thank you Chen of no Chen!

[PQS]

I was attending a smoking cessation clinic recently and they said it's a good idea to reward yourself and set goals why not treat yourself after a week and so on?
regards well done and good luck
Peter

[chen zhen]

Booty: also called wu-chen. :cool:

[bodhitree]

PQS
Did your classes work? Are you not smoking? We need these testimonials around here to inspire others to quit! You can do it.

What up Wu Chen or Bu Chen?

[chen zhen]

Don't Bu me..:p

Wu would mean a negation, as far as i know, so Wu-chen would be a negation of me, = chen of no-chen;)

[bodhitree]

Ni shi bu Chen.

you are not chen!

[chen zhen]

I'm negating myself from the POV of Taoism/buddhism..;)..:p

I really should'nt bother myself.

[bodhitree]

Just joking buddy
How about this your Tai Chen (grand chen).;)

[chen zhen]

So now I'm great? I'm flattered..:o;)

btw, before we skip the OT, then I'll post this (http://community.palouse.net/lotus/diamondsutra.htm), as I know of you sangha-stuff.(should I say that here..?)
it might be of interest for you.
see u around.

[bodhitree]

Thanks for the link! The support group for quitting smoking idea doesn't seem to be working yet. When someone wants it, This thread will be here!:)

[chen zhen]

Just keep it On-topic. (sorry if I made it off-..:(;))

[PQS]

Bodhitree
I had my last ciggarette on May 18th, the doctor prescribed zyban which I'm still taking one a day, the group was good we swapped phone numbers and were able to ring up in times of stress.
The support group lasted for six weeks then we were left on our own we are planning to meet up soon to see haw everyone got on.
Out of 10 people starting, by the end of 6 weeks 6 were still not smoking
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

PQS
congratulations, I have a friend Zyban worked for, I personally don't want to take anything that changes brain chemistry. Hey you can use this as your support group, tell your friends
Chen
You can go off topic as much as you want Buddy;) :D

[chen zhen]

*whew*, I feel relieved..:p

as long as I don't offend the poor people who're trying to quit the f@gs, it should be fine.:)

[bodhitree]

No offence taken, you know once you start f@gs its hard to quit cause you love f@gs so much. 6th day w/out cigarette!:)

[Former castleva]

"personally don't want to take anything that changes brain chemistry. "

Whay.Then you better stop smoking soon or you´ll be in for a (possible) life-long ride in neural terms.

[bodhitree]

Former
Whay.Then you better stop smoking soon or you´ll be in for a (possible) life-long ride neural terms

I know smoking is not good for the nervous system, but antidepressents change brain chemistry, and I dont think it changes for the better.
Its 7 days, hoorah!!!

[Former castleva]

"I know smoking is not good for the nervous system, but antidepressents change brain chemistry, and I dont think it changes for the better.
Its 7 days, hoorah!!!"

I´m not sure what you mean.
Sure antidepressants will alter you...who talked about antidepressants? Better or not,that can hardly be said,for their favour I could say that in some cases they have actually managed to stimulate growth of the matter (brain)
The whole smoking thing is about neurochemistry,and should there be permanent,physical changes,they would far outweigh those...ugh...psychiatric drugs you mentioned,I´d think.I´m willing to bet that smoking of yours has altered the neurochemical concentrationS of yours.Talking about such,never forget about memory problems,cognitive decline and greatly increased stroke risk.
Gongratulations,now keep it up.

[bodhitree]

The whole smoking thing is about neurochemistry,and should there be permanent,physical changes,they would far outweigh those...ugh...psychiatric drugs you mentioned,I´d think.I´m willing to bet that smoking of yours has altered the neurochemical concentrationS of yours.Talking about such,never forget about memory problems,cognitive decline and greatly increased stroke risk.
Former

I agree. Just the fact that the brain has some of its oxygen supply cut off is bad. I still wouldn't use something like welbutrin, Zyban, and some of the other Antidepressents that they use for smoking, But thats just me.

[Ming Yue]

Your life becomes 7 minutes longer each time you resist the urge to smoke again.
Your lover will kiss you more often.
No more burn holes in your clothes.
You'll have more money.
Your chest won ’t hurt.
You won't wake up and cough up a bunch of mung.
Your clothes won't stink.
Neither will your car.
Fewer headaches.
Less general fatigue.
You won’t have to listen to people complaining about your smoking.
You're far (up to 50%) less likely to get heart disease or lung cancer.
People will stop bumming smokes off you.
You won't really care if you lose another lighter.
Your fingers will return to thier natural color.
So will your teeth.
You will no longer be negatively affecting the health of your children & loved ones.
Your sense of smell and taste will get much better.
You could make a few bucks selling your ashtrays at a yard sale.
Your breath won't offend your dog.
Your skin will look and feel better.
You won't get as many wrinkles.
You'll get colds/flu less often.
If you do get sick, you'll get better faster.
Your training stamina will increase dramatically.

congratulations!
:D

[bodhitree]

Ming Yue
Thanks, and all of it is the truth. ;) I'm gonna print that list up. My personal top reason for quitting is training! Did you ever smoke? Just curious.

[Ming Yue]

I did. From the time I was 14 until I was 28. Marlboro Reds. I liked it, too. Especially with coffee.... :rolleyes:

I quit cold turkey. Besides Kung Fu training, it's the best decision I've ever made.

-C

[PQS]

over 2 mnths without a ciggarette and now 2 days without zyban
after 25 years any one else can give up
please excused I'm ****ed
Peter

[TonyM.]

Fantastic! Congratulations! After thirty five years of smoking there could be hope for me yet.

[PQS]

sorry last post didn't make much sense
you can give up if you want to, but YOU must want to not because you are being nagged, I started when I was about 18 or so and I'm 47 now and I'm NEVER going to smoke again
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

12 days guys.
Ming Yue, I liked my cigarettes with coffee to, and I had my first cup of coffee scince I quit yesterday. I wasnt even tempted or anything. How did that go with you!
PQS
I'm NEVER going to smoke again
I hope you don't, and I hope I dont either:D

Tony M there is hope for you, use us as a support group to quit;)
you can do it! :D

[Ming Yue]

Bhodi,
Those first few cigarette free cups of coffee were wierd without smoking, but I was committed.

You are too. You don't have to "hope" you won't smoke. You can just know you wont.

:)
Cynthia

[bodhitree]

You don't have to "hope" you won't smoke. You can just know you wont. Ming Yue

Thanks

;) ;) :D

[PQS]

drink water instead of coffee, my biggest problem was being in an enviroment (ie the pub) where people smoke. But thats life I train more and feel better for it , If you are having a bad time IM me and I will try and help
4 days no zyban
and about 60 days no ciggerettes
I DON'T SMOKE
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

12 days here and I dont either!;)

[PQS]

1 year of WT today, 64 days of no smokng and 6 days of no zyban
I thank you
and I don't smoke anymore
Peter

[bodhitree]

Pqs
what is WT (I'm guessing weight training or wing tsun)? I'm still on nicotene replacement ( the lozenges) but I'm using much much less of it than is suggested by the company. Tonight around 10:00 will be two weeks. I'm finished also!!! I've been tempted, last night I even had a dream that I smoked in, but no big deal I can get through it!! Hey keep up the good work:D

[norther practitioner]

My biggest frustrations came at the bar and club, where everyone is smoking...

[PQS]

Bodhitree
WT = Wing Tsun
how do you find the lozenges? I didn't want to use a nicotene replacement as I have failed with that before, but not doing to bad at the moment.
Northern Practioner yes that is hard but look on the bright side by not smoking you can afford to drink more
Regards
Peter

[norther practitioner]

you can afford to drink more
True...
My problem is the occasional, then I go through a week, then quit, then a month later I have one, then none for a few weeks, then I'll have a couple, and go through this cycle... The cycle is getting closer to coming to an end though...

[bodhitree]

PQS
the lozenges are at any drugstore, I failed once with the patch also, however I didn't use it as directed.
Northern
Maybe dont drink or go to the club for a month or two after you quit, build a foundation! I got a buddy that does the same thing going a couple weeks or months then going back. everytime he drinks he ends up smoking. I don't have to deal with that because I don't drink, but I did give up the coffee for about 10 days.
Today is 15 days, the longest I ever got before (without incarceration) was about 49 hours! If I can do it, Y'all definatly can.
Best of luck, you can do it!

[bodhitree]

It's wonderful not being stuck in that stupid habit.:)

[PQS]

Bodhitree, sorry, I meant how are you getting on with the lozenges
15 days is cool, keep going there is no nicotin in your body now so every day is getting easier (honest!)
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Thanks

[Ming Yue]

plus, chicks dig non smokers.

:D

[bodhitree]

So thats why they dont like me, cause I smoked yeah thats it:rolleyes:

[bodhitree]

Hey, Your a chick , arent you;)

[Ming Yue]

well sure, that's where I get all the insider info about what we dig.

:cool:

[bodhitree]

None of them seem to dig a poor college guy with no job and no ambition to work because it would take away from other more important things (training, spiritual matters, spending time here) so I dont like any of y'all:eek: no, just kidding!

[PQS]

Bodhitree & Ming yue
you could be your own support group(LOL)
keep it going
Peter

[bodhitree]

PQS
I wish!
anywhooo
19 days, still going. I've been dreaming of smoking everynight, but good during the daytime! aaahhhhh Monday morning in lovely Pittsburgh.

[bodhitree]

Now nobodys posting on the qigong forum! Its alway something.:(

[bodhitree]

Post 550 yeah or yeeeaaaayyy. How do you spell yay.

[chen zhen]

YAY!!

:D just like u said.

[bodhitree]

Chen
I'm glad to see you congragate with us ex f@g smokers. Once you put your lips on one it's hard to get off.
;) I just hung out with a friend who smoked like a chimney, I'm glad I dont have to do that today:D

[bodhitree]

PQS
whats up I see your here


20 days. been feeling somewhat tempted, but thats okay. I dont know I'm not gonna pick up a cigarette today!

[chen zhen]

I just hung out with a friend who smoked like a chimney, I'm glad I dont have to do that today

That's the spirit.

[bodhitree]

Chen
check out my post about you being moderator for ORA on the main board!

[chen zhen]

I did. But maybe we should leave it to yer sig. It's kinda f*cked, in a way. They'll make fun of us.:rolleyes:

[bodhitree]

Fine then I'll change it you soar little beeeaaatch.

[chen zhen]

Don't start me...;)

the sig is fine.:)

[PQS]

Bodhitree I must have looked briefly while I was at work there is a bit of a time difference!
20 days is cool, why not try and reward yourself ? Like take Ming Yu for a meal or something
Peter

[bodhitree]

Sounds good to me, I don't know if Ming Yue would be down with it. You should pm her a recomendation for me, I dont have any other references! 21 days today buddy:D I wish this forum would inspire someone to quit, then it would make all this posting worth it (its fun anyway) well peace and love!

[chen zhen]

If u have made it that long, then i'm sure u can quit for good pretty easily.
Just hang on!:)

[bodhitree]

Yay for Chen! :D

[PQS]

21 today, 21 today, he's got the key of the door never been 21 before
excellent well done.
Maybe we could take it back over to the main forum every now and again and try and start our own help group? (of course I don't need it as I don't smoke anymore lol)

Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Not the main forum;)

[bodhitree]

Hey keep posting here over the weekend guys;) Thanks, hope your all well:D

[Ming Yue]

I read somewhere that 14 days is all it takes to develop or lose a psychological pattern (habit).

so now y'all are in the habit of not smoking.



my, but your lungs look pink and healthy.

:D

[bodhitree]

Doing great!
Almost a month!!!

[bodhitree]

Bodhitree I must have looked briefly while I was at work there is a bit of a time difference!
20 days is cool, why not try and reward yourself ? Like take Ming Yu for a meal or something
PQS

Ming Yue
we should take his advice;)

[Ming Yue]

woohoo!

hey, you're far less likely to die in a mattress fire.
:cool:

[bodhitree]

Hey
I'm in PA, your in NC, all we got seperating us is WVA and a little of VA. We should meet at the waffle house in Wytheville VA.;) (everyone loves the waffle house):D

[Ming Yue]

sorry I missed your invite before I made the "woohoo" post, so my reply was badly timed...

um...can I bring my boyfriend?
:cool:

[chen zhen]

Hey Ming Yue! finally a girl at this mutha..
U should Check this thread, u could put a comment on. Very much needed. (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=24288)
Thank u in advance!:)

Hey bootyman, u doing great, cuzz!:D

message from tha:

[bodhitree]

um...can I bring my boyfriend Ming Yue

of course, if hes into that sort of thang!

[chen zhen]

If he's cool, and treat u right, then sure.;)

[Ming Yue]

well sure, he's into waffles. Who's not into waffles?

:)

[Kristoffer]

waffles are ok







DAAAMIT :mad:
Once again, KFO has made me hungry in the middle of the night! Arrrghhh....

[PQS]

80 days today, but I have put on a half stone in weight.
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

PQS
great work!
Ming
You dont realise how fortunate you southerners are to have waffle houses, we dont have them here in PA. Eat some pecan ones for me!

28 days today, almost a month!

[chen zhen]

Never had a decent waffle, make yo boyfriend bring some digital ones..:p

(god a crappy joke)

[bodhitree]

Waffles arent the only good things at a waffle house.

[Ming Yue]

sure bhodi, we have waffle houses, but you're much closer to Carnegie Deli Cheesecake than I am.

[bodhitree]

I never heard of that place (I dont eat cheesecake anyway) but I'll keep my ears open. Hey ever been to Greensboro? Theres a resteraunt there called Stammeys, Carolina BBQ, pretty da mn good. None of us Yankies know about real carolina bbq, kind with clear vinager based sause. good stuff!

[chen zhen]

I prefer Samosas.
;)

[Ming Yue]

Samosas.. are those those yummy little meat pie things? Philippino?

I've heard of Stammeys, but never been. I'm a western BBQ sauce gal.

[chen zhen]

No, not pies, and they are Pakistani.:p
Yummy as hell

[Ming Yue]

well at least I got the yummy part right.
:rolleyes:
:)

[PQS]

Samosas, now you are talking.
Where I work they celebrate the opening of a fridge door by bringing in the Samosas,
Pakistani? I'm not to sure ,more of an Indian thing.
for anyone who issn't aware of samosas, think triangular pancake rolls filled with a (normally) curry/spicy vegitarian filling
oh well, tomorrow somebody is leaving work Samosas all round ,
although my appitite has inceased since giving up smoking
I've just noticed post number 15,0 I am becoming a regular
Peter

[chen zhen]

This is Samosas (http://www.saveurs.sympatico.ca/ency_6/divers/samosa.jpg)
;)
Yes, they are made in India too. It is really the same country, just divided, so of course it's the same food.:)

[PQS]

"same country just devided"!!!!!!!! that went down well at work(lol).
I'm assuming we are all non smokers now and we are leaving this thread to die just like a discarded ciggarette butt
well done to all of us non smokers
Peter

[chen zhen]

British India was divided into 3 parts, that is Hindustan India, Pakistan, & Bangladesh. It was the same country before. So dun laugh, I'm right.:)

[bodhitree]

What up ho;mies. I'm on vacation (in New Jersy ahhhhhh:mad: )
oh well! Hey all, no more nicotene replacement. Non smoker non nicotene user now!

[Ming Yue]

how's the garden state? vacation paradise?

[chen zhen]

U used nicotene replacements? Didnt mentioned that, did u...;)

Heeere, p*ssy p*ssy p*ssy...


P*SSY!!

:D:p

[bodhitree]

Chen
I still quit
Ming
the garden state is hell on earth. Its just mosquito breeding farms, thats what they mean by that!

[Ming Yue]

well, I looked on the 'net for the worst vacation spots in the world, but all the sources I checked said Jersey was it.

actually, on one site, the center of the earth came in second to Jersey. Probably because it's too hot there for mosquitos.



:D

[chen zhen]

"Dayum, her ass is so fat she's got mo' crack than New Jersey!":eek:

:D

Welcome back, Bootee.
U're not a p*ssy, u are very brave with your stopping smoking, and you're doin better with it than most i have known & heard about.

I will not put p*ssy in my mouth again..
:eek::eek::eek::p

If y'all knowwaddamean

[bodhitree]

I will not put p*ssy in my mouth again.. Chen Zhen

Don't ever say that dude!

;)

[chen zhen]

:D

hey man, u dun have to have that "CZ for mod" thing in your sig anymore. u know?:)

[bodhitree]

I didn't even notice!

[chen zhen]

& U could quote me for the former remark..
:D

[bodhitree]

Like this.

[chen zhen]

NOOOO:eek:

the p*ssy one!

:D

[bodhitree]

Hows this?

[chen zhen]

good. also that u used my encouragement as an encouragement to all the ones trying to quit.:)

[chen zhen]

u should just try to make it stand alone so that it is easier to spot

[bodhitree]

Just trying to save a life...
all in a days work.

[bodhitree]

where are all the quitters?

[chen zhen]

They quitted.;)
You've gotta do a larger campaign for this, to get people to listen.

[bodhitree]

I need your help oh powerful moderator.

[PQS]

I'm still around!
question would I be a quitter if I started smoking again
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO, 100 days tomorrow so I treated myself to a digital camcorder so I can record my forms (what a horrible sight that will be)
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

PQS
congrats brother.
7 weeks Wendsday, its great isnt it.
Good to hear from you.

[bodhitree]

AAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY.

[Former castleva]

An article on smoking cessation;
http://www.acsh.org/publications/booklets/cessation2003.html

Including;
"..."Alternative" therapies for smoking cessation, including acupuncture, hypnosis, and herbal remedies, have not been proven effective. Some alternative therapies may be hazardous, and some herbal remedies may interact in detrimental ways with prescription or over the counter medications. ..."

[bodhitree]

Thanks Former!

[bodhitree]

Ive felt tempted this morning, so I just impulsively spent all of my money so I couldnt buy cigaretts. It worked! I still have dreams about them, however I am done! No more. 8 weeks and strong. this is what a Traditional Chinese support group is all about!:D

[Ming Yue]

good job bhodi!

however I have a better idea. Next time you get a cig craving, just send me all your money.

:D

[PQS]

or put it in a bank account until you have enough to come to Europe and you can buy me a beer
:D
well done and congratulations
Peter

[bodhitree]

Hey
I'll cut the money in half and go for both of your ideas:D

[PQS]

some days are harder than others but you are doing well, and if ciggarettes are the same price in the States as the U.K. (approx $75 a week ) you will be out here no time
mines a stella

[bodhitree]

Dude
how much did you smoke?

[Ming Yue]

wow..

75 USD is about 3 cartons a week.
60 packs...

I don't see how you could possibly have enough time to smoke that much.
;)

[bodhitree]

I agree, I barely ever finished a carton a week. wow. Hey Ming find some smokers and force them to quit using this thread.
haha just kidding.

[Ming Yue]

I would rather force them to quit through chin na. Let em try to smoke with dislocated fingers....


Happily, I've run out of friends that smoke. They've all quit.

:D

[Former castleva]

No wonder you´ve run out of friends,if you made them quit by chin-na.

[Ming Yue]

luckily for them, they were able to quit without my direct assistance.

:D

I did provide lots of moral support though.

[PQS]

a carton is 200 ciggarettes which is what I would smoke a week that would cost about £45 which would equal about $71 I would maybe smoke a bit more at times of stress and merriment:D
still I DON'T SMOKE NOW and it's all down to KFO (and the zyban)
Regards
Peter

[Kristoffer]

Wow, quitting smoking coz of kfo... that's neit

[PQS]

of course thats what this thread is about
regards
Peter

[Kristoffer]

well props to ya

[bodhitree]

I'm gonna start using KF to beat my freinds out of smoking, I just care about them that much:rolleyes:

[Kristoffer]

My friends are beyond helping :D

[Shaolin-Do]

I havent had a cig in about 3 months... quit keepin track actually...
Occasionally when Ive had too much to drink Ill start punching cigs out of peoples mouths.
:eek:
:)

[bodhitree]

Shaolin Do
you care about those people enough to punch the cigarette out of there mouth, now thats plain commendable.

[Kristoffer]

see if u can puch the cig so it goes in to his mouth :D

[bodhitree]

I don't like touching the things.

[chen zhen]

Try punching him in the nose.

[bodhitree]

try ****ing them in the ***!;)

[chen zhen]

u censor your own posts?
thats stupid, ass cannot be censored;)

[bodhitree]

I don't use profanity when speaking so I wont when posting.

[bodhitree]

Why nobody post here?
I really wanted to smoke the other day but didn't. I 've been under a lot of stress. Lets make this the rant about anything thread! Personally I don't care if noone even reads it. Oh well,
peace and prosperity.

[PQS]

Why nobody post here?
well I've been working and decorating :(
but I have still been looking, but NOT smoking. If you feel like smoking put something on here and I 'll try and come up with a way of taking your mind of it
maybe a joke competition?
regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Doin better today
Thanks for postin and replying PQS, it is appreciated. ahhhhhh life is good in this second. When I stay in the right now.

[PQS]

bodhitree
keep it up it's going well, take a deep breath, exhale,



















and punch someone:)
regards
Peter
please call me Peter, my initials spell out pqs But I'm Peter (and drunk)

[bodhitree]

Peter
thanks buddy. Hey If you ever need to rant, I'll read it;) . I haven't punched anyone scince childhood, I would like to keep it that way ( although sometimes it is tempting) well peace buddy.

[PQS]

cheers
no punching persons, get a punch bag!
downside of not smoking I don't stop eating I have now put on over a stone in weight
(Homer voice damm those samosas) :)
regards
Peter
(and thanks for calling me Peter)

[bodhitree]

Peter
I actually lost weight scince quitting:confused: go figure. my appetite shrunk.

[PQS]

Bod
You lost weight!!:p
well done, I work in an environment where I spend most of my day behind a desk, now whenever I have a cup of tea or something, instead of having a smoke I eat a packet of crisps :(
not good must try harder
Peter

[bodhitree]

Make sure the tea is heavily caffinated!;)

[bodhitree]

Practice more,
thats the best thing of not smoking is more time and energy for practice.

[Kristoffer]

Why nobody post here?
I really wanted to smoke the other day but didn't. I 've been under a lot of stress. Lets make this the rant about anything thread! Personally I don't care if noone even reads it. Oh well,
peace and prosperity.


just go to 'brink of death' in ORA ;)

[bodhitree]

You know I do homey.

[bodhitree]

I still feel like smoking every single day, at work this one guy always throws out half cigarettes and I always look and my mouth starts to dreul ( or drool ). As time goes by I want to smoke more everyday, I keep telling myself not today, you can smoke tomarrow. Its been a few months now. Oh well, what can you do.

[PQS]

Hey Bod,
I'm having the same feelings myself at the moment :( but you just have to persevere it's like I can taste ciggarettes all the time but you like myself WILL NOT GIVE IN WE ARE EX SMOKERS :)
keep it up and good luck
Peter

[bodhitree]

Peter
hellow friend.
Yes we can do this. How have you been other than the urges to smoke? Let me know!

[PQS]

Hi Bod
apart from wanting to smoke I've been o.k. I have been on vacation in Ibiza a couple of weeks ago, and thats where the craving came back:mad: to much time on my hands and hanging around bars.
Due to work and decorating havent spent any time training for 6 weeks which is a bummer but I will be starting again tomorrow:D
how have you been?
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

craving comes on strong sometimes. No training for 6 weeks, make some time man. What style do you practice? Hey, thanks for posting, I hope all is well,
bootytree

[PQS]

Bod
I practice Wing Tsun for about a year now, althouigh I have done other styles before that, unfortuantly when you get to my age(47) work and things are a little bit more important, than just training.
But I'm coming thru it and starting to resist it. I know I'll always want to smoke but I just WILL NOT, your younger and it will get easier as you go on
cheers
Peter

[bodhitree]

Peter
I can relate to other things getting in the way of practice. I was going to give up external arts practice to focus on this algebra cource, but I didn't. I don't know, my priorities are often backwards. Hope all is well
Scott 'booty' bodhitree

[bodhitree]

I often make very foolish descisions, just thought i,d share that.

[bodhitree]

I love this thread!

Peter, where are you my brother

I like to write ridiculas stuff here.

please partake.

Jintian wo hen hao.

[Young Gotti]

ask yourself: why do i wanna smoke? what better things could i do instead of smoking? what is the use anyway?

[PQS]

Scott
how you doing
last week was real bad I have an abcess on my gum which is putting lots of poison into my stomach, it proberbly explains why I haven't felt like training though, Dentist tomorrow:( (I hate them haven't been in a long time) but I'm training again tomorrow evening, I rang my instructor today and he's told me he is getting married net February:D .
How's it going? what style do you study?
Best Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

I hope all works out medically, or should I say dentally. I do taijiquan, used to do shaolin, still do but don't take class, and just started lion dancing! All is good here! I love this thread, even if you and I are the only people posting on it!

Young gotti

good to see some fresh blood here, I agree with what you wrote. I think about smoking everyday, but I don't.

Have a good one y'll

[PQS]

well I have been to the dentist and I go back in 2 weeks for extractions fillings etc.
it's only going to cost $2000:eek:
still in a year I will have saved $6000 by not smoking:)
I also feel like smoking everyday because I can remember the taste BUT WE ARE NON SMOKERS so I am not going to succomb
Young Gotti
Wellcome:D
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

I'd hate to say this, and please don't take it the wrong way, but isn't it kind of a stereotype that an Englishman has problems with their teeth:eek: I'm sorry, I just had to make the observation. Theres a lot of stereotypes of Americans that I'm sure apply to me, please make sure to point them out. Smoking will always be tempting, but we just need to keep doing the right thing.

[PQS]

I will ignore the temtation to make comments about tourists with dodgy dress sense, people who have to follow London with England, obesity, crap beer and Mcdonalds:D
Still you did give the world The Simpsons so your not all bad:cool:
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

the worst part of americans is their attitute! a bunch of ethnocentric humans.

[PQS]

Maybe,
although we are sometimes guilty as well, the difference is that we have reasons to:D
regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Peter
are you protesting Bush? I hate dubya! I love Brittish people due to the fact that 100,000+ showed up to protest Bush!

[PQS]

The Brits protest against the opening of a fridge door given half a chance
:p
I'm still waiting for someone to find the weapons of mass destuction then it will really kick off.
I was in San Francisco back in March and I was watching a local cable news channel and there were about 50 people just moving around the city protesting for 20 minutes or so when the police arrived another 50 or so started somewhere else it was really funny to watch:D
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Peter
how do you like my new avatar?

I got it from Chen Zhen

[PQS]

:)

[bodhitree]

;)

[PQS]

shouldn't you be at work?

[bodhitree]

no!

I should be in class!;) I'm getting burnt out with class.

[PQS]

you have my permission to have a couple of days off:D
have a good weekend

[bodhitree]

thanks Peter,
however I didn't read it till monday. Hey you have my permission to be irresponsible anytime.

[PQS]

Sorry can't be irresponsible, whenever something goe's wrong at work my boss say's I'm always responsible:D

[PQS]

Proof that no smoking works
I had the 4 teeth out today all payed for by giving up smoling, I'll get the plate in 2 weeks then they will want me for the movies
:D
Philip Morris your a loser
Peter

[bodhitree]

Good stuff! how are your other health problems doing. I'm buying a lot more xmas presents due to not smoking. Hope all is well
Scott

[PQS]

Scott
I get results of the liver tests tomorrow, apparently the ALT had gone down
I've been having a private lesson once a week just to keep up todate, but overall I feel I'm getting better and have a lot more energy
Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Glad to hear that. Ever consider seeing a TCM docto. Talk to repulsive monkey, i think he is somewhere in England.

[scotty1]

Hey Bodhitree. I'm a smoker myself, but I'll tell you what i'm finding.

I stopped somking for the 8 or so hours I'm at work, which was tricky at first, but just keep reminding yourself why you're doing it. Stronger, thicker erections, *ahem* I mean better cardio etc.

Anyway, i have a couple in the evening usually. But sometimes, because I've gone without one for so long in the day, and its been fine, I don't feel like one in the evenings, or I'll be busting for one after practice, and I say "no!" not until you get to the pub, so I wait, get a Burger King, walk to the pub and then, bam, I really don't want one anymore, not for a while at least.

And now, I get half way through one and think eurgh, I don't want the rest of that. And gradually, my body is going off smoking. And its just through trainng hard and not smoking before 6 o clock.

So if its really difficult for you to give up totally, and you think you'll fail, try that for a bit, and you'll probably get there in the end. Mind you, I've been doing this for ages, and I'm still having one or two a day lol

Whatever, good luck.

[Former castleva]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031210074502.htm

[Meat Shake]

Ive been cig free for 9 months now, And I shall firmly state that pot is the way to quit.
:D

[bodhitree]

Smoking pot is still smoking, welll, nahhhhh.

I dont do that though

[Kristoffer]

Pot:

all natural smootness or equal to ten cigs?

[bodhitree]

a kid i work with just quit with the pot replacement method. I quit with coffee!(now i can practice all night;) )

[bodhitree]

It can't go all the way to the bottom, I just can't let it go that easily.

[Ming Yue]

Bhodi,
do you look back at this thread and remember when you thought you wouldn't be able to really quit?

you rock, congrats on keeping smoke free!

:D

[bodhitree]

You to Ming, Now we can be pretenscious non- smokers. Awesome isn't it!

[PQS]

What's a smoker:)
Happy New Year you two

[bodhitree]

Peter
hows everything been? been in good health? Hey man, I think the absolutely funniest thing in the world comes from England, the television show 'Trigger Happy TV', dude, thats about the only thing that makes me laugh so hard I have to worry about pe eing my pants

[PQS]

Hi Scott
Life is cool at the mo
I am still around, this thread will not die.
How's it going

Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Pretty Peachy, how about you?

[PQS]

o.k.
it's the weekend:)
time to chill
have a goodone
Peter

[bodhitree]

Peter

hellow.

[PQS]

Hi Bod,
How are you? did you have a good birthday last week? it was mine on the 23rd only 25 years difference:(
Next Wednesday the 10th of March is National No Smoking day in Britain and I'm now approaching 10 months:D
Keep it up
Best Regards
Peter

[bodhitree]

Happy B- day
another peicies, thats why we get along so well!

[PQS]

Just to bring this thread back, on Monday the 17th of this month it will be a year since I last smoked :D
hope everyone is doing well
Regards
Peter

[CaptinPickAxe]

"How I Quit Smoking Cigarettes"
By CaptinPickAxe

I smoked for two years (on and off) and when I decided it was time to kick the habit these were the ways I helped deal with the stress.

1. Smoked Weed:
I know, I know "Its just as bad for you". Yes, but not when you smoke a bowl a day as opposed to a pack a day. I found it made me less irratable and help me forget the cravings.

2. Willpower:
I live with two smokers who religiously smoke. It wasn't the least bit hard for me to steer clear of the smokes when I had the thought, "I'm gonna quit" ingrained in my brain. Thier smoke didn't make me crave or irritable.

3. Being Active:
Once I saw the effect cigarettes had played on my lungs, I never wanted to smoke again. I felt like an asthmatic who just ran a marathon...and I was pizzed. Activities also help you keep your mind off of smoking. When you busy hiking or sparring you tend to think less about "Damm, I wish I had a stog."

4. Sex:
Nothing will calm you down more than sex. One session of sex amounts to 3 days of happiness and will help you not be irratable. Just remember not to light up during the post-sex coitial period;)

These were my tools to kicking the habit. I hope they've helped you along your path to a healthier, smoke free life.

[bodhitree]

PETER WELL FREAKING DONE!!!!!!!

CPA thanks for your imput.


yeah! this thread is bigger than Jesus.

[herb ox]

Greetings brothers of willpower!

I just thought I'd add my 2 cents to the fray regarding the social aspects of smoking as an oft overlooked mechanism of relapse. Basically, one thing I've noticed at work is the smokers always take more breaks than the non-smiz types. So, some (myself included at one time) begin smoking to "hang out" and take more breaks from the drudgery of work. Furthermore, smoking is an activity which allows one to be completely submerged in, ignoring his/her surroundings and social discomfort of being in a strange place, instead of standing around with nothing to do. When I visited Seoul a few years back, I smoked quite a bit. I would estimate 90% of the men smoke there, and there were times when I was just standing around waiting for my friend and only Korean translator I knew. I was pretty hairy at the time, beard, dreads to the small of my back, etc. I drew many stares and it made me uncomfortable at times. When I smoked one of those generic Korean cigs, I could lean up against a lightpole or building and be completely submerged in my activity. I felt as if I vanished from the scene for just a moment - just long enough to regain my sanity. Oh well...

As for the wisdom weed of Solomon, it can certainly help with many ails but can become a persistent habit as well. One bowl is fine to take the 'edge' off, but when you start smoking entire joints to your head throughout the day, it becomes just another smoking habit. Caution. Be moderate....



Then again, I'm not one to criticize!:p

the herb ox

[bodhitree]

Peter
I just recently had a year also, best shape of my life right now.

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

august 2nd i'm going to quit for my daughters birthday.

i'm forcing myself to wait 2 hours between cigerettes now, and will lengthen that time over the next two weeks, to make it a little easier.

i'm going to miss them.

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

Originally posted by bodhitree
I wish this forum would inspire someone to quit, then it would make all this posting worth it (its fun anyway) well peace and love!

wish granted. im your jeanie in a bottle. now rub me the right way *****.