Home Of The Shredder™

[rogue]

One more way to sell tapes by stating the obvious to those wishing to be more deadly than they'll ever need to be. (How's that for a sentence? :D ) HOME OF THE SHREDDER™ (http://www.senshido.com/swwd2.html)


(www.Senshido.com)
Unique to Senshido, the Shredder has been referred to by most as a revolutionary and innovative offensive tactic and concept. The Shredder is a physical retaliation concept that is comprised of several short, traumatic offences such as eye gouging, ear ripping, palm striking, raking, biting, elbowing, spitting, throat crushing and neck and head cranks and manipulations. It is a spontaneous barrage of gross motor skills where the targets are manifested by your attacker's panicked attempt at defensive disengagement. Diversity of tools used is produced by your adaptability.

What it does is, it bypasses your opponent's reflexive response and flinch mechanism due to the repetitive, on the quarter beat, onslaught. This guarantees landing every single one of your strikes. It also offers maximum tactile sensitivity and can be applied anytime providing (in some instances) that strategic implementations are applied. The Shredder is a primary tool and tactic for any close quarter / grappling / ground fighting situations.

Psychologically, the Shredder shocks, unbalances and disorients your opponent completely, due to the savage nature of the retaliation. Akin to your hands being like magnets and your opponent's face being a piece of metal, it is far beyond your average striking combinations usually seen in the majority of systems and styles. There is no memorization of techniques involved whatsoever, it all depends on the targets made available by your opponent's reactions and your closest weapon application.

The Shredder isn't solely applicable to the head and neck areas but can also be applied to the rest of the body using a variety of natural tools. It can be used in minimum potential and maximum potential violence situations. For minimum violence potential, a more passive Shredder would be used. For maximum violence potentiality, the Nuclear Shredder is required. The difference lies in the actual pressure and force applied behind each tool when striking, gouging, ripping, raking, cranking and tearing. It's the difference between a poke and a deep gouge and everything in between.

The Shredder is Senshido's primary offensive arsenal and has been used successfully every single time both in real life altercations and scenario replications.

[Kristoffer]

Where do I sign up? :D

[Kristoffer]

due to the savage nature of the retaliation. Akin to your hands being like magnets and your opponent's face being a piece of metal


Kinda kinky if you ask me :D

[rogue]

TAPE # 25 - The SHREDDER PACKAGE (3 ITEMS)
This package comes with a 50 page manual, an instrcutional tape as well as our unique SHREDDER logo T-shirt. This package extensively covers the Shredder in great detail from its origins to its current development, also included are drills, demos and detailed explanations. This is the definitive Shredder package. If you've been curious about it or have any interest in this concept, this package is definitely for you, I guarantee you it will do nothing but greatly enhance your arsenal no matter what style, system, rank or experience you already possess or train in.
Nothing says video trained badazz like a Shredder t-shirt.

Just remember that this is the definitive Shredder package, and includes 17 seconds of never before seen footage.

I wonder what would happen if a Kino Mutai guy and a Shredder guy got into a fight what would happen?:eek:

[anton]

that's how i used to fight when i was 4 years old.

1) make nasty claws with your hands.
2) stretch your arms out and swing them around wind-mill styles as fast as you can.
3) screech loudly.
4) run towards your opponent.

[Oso]

ha, a nice ripe and juicy f a r t (why can you say 'crap' but not ****?) at the appopriate time will do exactly the same thing.





:D




wuz up rogue?


pm headed your way.

[Ryu]

heh heh,
You guys should go talk to Rich to see for yourselves what he's really like.

Training with him wouldn't be a bad idea either. You might be surprised.

Ryu

[Kristoffer]

Good idea

[David Jamieson]

sorry, i thought this was a d i c k cheney and enron related post :D

cheers

[Oso]

kinda funny...having looked at the sight it seems as if The Shredder(tm) is the same eye gouges and throat rips found in a lot of cma that mma guys tend to dismiss as effective finishing techniques.

[rogue]

Same here Oso, I was thinking Eagle Claw and other animal styles.

[TjD]

those shredder guys better watch out for those turtle stylists!

i hear this one turtle stylist guy donatello is really good with a staff. hes a ninja too!

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

it's a silly name but i didnt see anywhere near the amount of over-the-top bullsh it claims that you usually see attached to this stuff.

i mean i'd still laugh at someone if i saw them wearing the shirt, but i've seen much much worse.

[TjD]

no rediculous claims except for:



This guarantees landing every single one of your strikes.


and



The Shredder is Senshido's primary offensive arsenal and has been used successfully every single time both in real life altercations and scenario replications.


man, i wonder if they know krang and train in the technodome. that would be sweet.

[David Jamieson]

k, looked at the site.

The material seems ok all marketing aside. I mean lets face it, the term "out of the box" does not apply to a single system of martial arts, you can't buy skill and ability, you must work for it.

Martial arts marketing on the whole is poor for the most part and quite sensationalist. But if you were to tell someone "well for one year you are going to strengthen up do some basic stuff over and over and over again and did we mention over and over and over again? before you learn any of the actual system." How many people will show up for that! hahahaha. Big fat zero on that one.

People do not want to (for the most part) invest the time and practice that you need to to even perfect a half dozen or so techniques and to tune themselves to have the awareness and ability to use them, never mind a library of techniques that is a Kungfu system.

Also, I think the girl on the site needs to change her write up a bit. It's very unispiring and seems like there is a bit of man-hating going on. Which is cool, but it will get a negative reaction from the mainstream people and will effect her ability to deliver to the widest possible audience as I suspect she would like to. It will also skew peoples perceptions of the overall offerings.

otherwise, looks like an mma is taking an interest in cma :D

It's all tiger claw, Fanziquan, Lung Chuan and Hok Chuan techniques that make up "the shredder". Credit where it's due I would say. Maybe he did some one on one with Johhny Tsai, he was big in eagle claw and is only a short distance away in new york. (new york / montreal being like a 50 minute flight) just speculating.

cheers

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

no rediculous claims except for:

right, but he's not sending his astral spies after ya either.

like kung lek said ... it's marketing. shi tty marketing for a shi tty product, but i have seen much sh ittier of both.

[Ryu]

Rich Dimitri is a Montreal-based RBSD instructor who's probably one of the most down to earth, respectful, and helpful people I've talked to.
Talk to him yourselves. Like I said before, you'll probably be surprised. He's got quite a bit of MMA and catch wrestling skills.

Ryu

[rogue]

I'm sure you're right Ryu, but he's also feeding into the fantasy of many killa wanna-be. The techniques sound like the same kung fu that's too deadly to train anywhere near full speed. They also are techniques that very few people will use very few times and only if they're very unlucky. Do you think anybody on the NYPD that he trained could use this stuff and not go to the slammer? Let's also mention if they're as good as he says you'll need a civil lawyer when the perp sues your azz off.

I was and to a degree still am a fan of guys like Vunak, Blaur and Franco, but the whole reality street fighting thing is turning into fantasy street fighting for killa wanna-be and right up there with "hunting for bambi" for the psychotic pleasure this fantasy brings. But that's just my opinion, and like a-holes...;)

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

and like a-holes...

everyone's got one and they're both round.

[Ryu]

Originally posted by rogue
I'm sure you're right Ryu, but he's also feeding into the fantasy of many killa wanna-be. The techniques sound like the same kung fu that's too deadly to train anywhere near full speed. They also are techniques that very few people will use very few times and only if they're very unlucky. Do you think anybody on the NYPD that he trained could use this stuff and not go to the slammer? Let's also mention if they're as good as he says you'll need a civil lawyer when the perp sues your azz off.

I was and to a degree still am a fan of guys like Vunak, Blaur and Franco, but the whole reality street fighting thing is turning into fantasy street fighting for killa wanna-be and right up there with "hunting for bambi" for the psychotic pleasure this fantasy brings. But that's just my opinion, and like a-holes...;)


Well, I do agree that the "killa street fighter" thing is a fallacy. There's no such thing as a "tough guy" in reality to me. Rich really tries to promote this too (i.e. killa street fighters are nonsense), but as far as marketing goes, I'm not too brainy about it.
I hope at least now that I'm teaching I can keep the same persona I have come to be recognized with.
If I ever start doing the "super killa" things, please remind me of what I've said here. :)
That being said, "street oriented" training does exist in the sense people mix athleticism/contact fighting with psychology, adrenaline response, multiple attacker exposure, weapons on the ground, etc.

Ryu

[Shaolin-Do]

If he doesnt teach me to shoot fireballs from my palms, he's not the real deal.














:D

[Black Jack]

Rogue,

I am not saying that this is not a bit of marketing hyperbole but am I correct on the feeling that you are getting a bit "tainted" by that CDT crowd.

Let's also mention if they're as good as he says you'll need a civil lawyer when the perp sues your azz off.-Rogue

Do you see anything a little off with that paragraph or even the one you printed above it about the cop. Are we talking about rare but real survival situations where all you can do is fight or about when Aunt Martha gets drunk and trys to wrestle her nephew down at the traditional Thanksgiving party for a secret game of guess that smell?

[rogue]

Rich really tries to promote this too (i.e. killa street fighters are nonsense), but as far as marketing goes, I'm not too brainy about it. I'm just looking at the graphic Rich is using of the fingers in the eyes, broken teeth, etc and I have to ask, who is that aimed at? LEOs? Special Forces? BJJ guys? Or maybe 14 year old killa street fighter wanna-be's? Bad judgement on Richs part. I also think Francos use of gladiator pictures is pretty funny and overdone.

Not tainted BlackJack, but CDT does present what I find a valid view. Most of the types of encounters, not fights, will be of a low intensity level. Now this level isn't sexy and it's hard to brag on how you got a drunk in a wrist lock and escorted him out the door to a cab without hurting him, but it's a scenerio that we're more likely encounter than a situation where we'll be ripping someones face off. Now before you think I'm getting really soft I think brutal techniques are a must know for when the bravo hits the sierra, but to have a system that focus' only upon them is in my opinion disturbing. It's a matter of spending more time training for the most likely encounters, without ignoring the worst case scenerio. But, to only focus on "soft" techniques like CDT is asking for trouble. Sometimes just dropping the guy with a couple of strikes and kicks is the best thing, who wants to be on a dark and lonely street with a ****ed off thug in wrist lock?

Besides the things that CDT teaches are the similar to the things that my Kali and karate instructors teach in the way of locks and pain techniques. Also I can practice them at full speed and at a level to see if they work against resisting training partners. Now don't get me started on the lineage of Patire, his marketing and other things about the CDT org that grate on me, or else they'll take my certification away!:D