my problem (CMA perspective CMA related CMA i like) with grappling styles

[Xebsball]

-> they cant strike :mad:

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

its only a matter of time before an ak and a clock tower are xebs only comfort.

[Laughing Cow]

And a phone to trap people in a Phone-booth.

:D

[Surferdude]

?????:confused: :p

[rogue]

Sure they can Xebs, Royce can even kick. Thing is why hurt your hand trying to knock someone out when you can choke him out in three seconds.

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by Xebsball
-> they cant strike :mad:

Do they have to?

[CrippledAvenger]

Originally posted by SevenStar


Do they have to?

Depends on what throw they use. I can't even stand after a good shoulder throw. :o

Heaven forbid they use a Ho-Ti (spelling?). Those are just sadistic.

:D

[No_Know]

Sure they can. (paraphrase:)If I have arms and hands, can I not punch at you? If I have legs and feet, can I not kick at you?...

If you would like for grapplers to be able to strike, then contact your local Union representative. :-)

[ShaolinTiger00]

Last year I attended a Rickson Gracie seminar.

Rickson asked the class "How many of you have a black belt in another art? Please stand up."

At least 3/4 of the class stood up and one by one he asked us which art. Answers were typically karate and tae kwon do, but were as diverse as aikido and my own kung fu.

Rickson's responce "Well I guess that proves the myth that jujitsu guys can't punch is wrong!"

something to think about. ;)

[MasterKiller]

Since when can TMA strike well?

[ShaolinTiger00]

Since when can TMA strike well?

I didn't want to ruin Rickson's moment by saying that.. I was enamored by his aura.

[Dark Knight]

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[Xebsball]

Originally posted by SevenStar


Do they have to?

Sevendude,
I think you should go ask the few Gracie puzssies and other grapplers who still fight on mma why they ALL crosstrain on striking ;)
Or you can sit down and discuss of striking inefectiveness with the Chute Boxe guys for example ;)
And others ;)


Other dude whatever,
That link of the video i dont download, i got 56k connection. If its mma stuff its pointless to the discussion.
mma has grappling, but mma is not a "grappling style"
d@am fool makes me laugh

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by CrippledAvenger


Depends on what throw they use. I can't even stand after a good shoulder throw. :o

Heaven forbid they use a Ho-Ti (spelling?). Those are just sadistic.

:D

exactly my point ;)

[Black Jack]

Henry Winkler would choke Rickson the f@ck out.

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by Xebsball


Sevendude,
I think you should go ask the few Gracie puzssies and other grapplers who still fight on mma why they ALL crosstrain on striking ;)
Or you can sit down and discuss of striking inefectiveness with the Chute Boxe guys for example ;)
And others ;)


they crosstrain for well roundedness, and to learn how to deal with strikes, not necessarily because they HAVE to strike.

Regardless though, I wouldn't assume that they can't strike.

[Internal Boxer]

Xebsball. I am not sure why you are having a pop at grapplers when you do BJJ???

Hmmm could be a case of multiple personality disorder:D

[scotty1]

"Aaeeeeeeeeeey".

Silly thread.

[Xebsball]

Originally posted by Internal Boxer
Xebsball. I am not sure why you are having a pop at grapplers when you do BJJ???

Hmmm could be a case of multiple personality disorder:D

Son, its a long list of "my problem with" threads that point "the flaws of the WOR-LD"


Sevendude, ever seen Minoutauro fighting? His grappling is ultimate super magic awesome, right? But have you seen his striking? He is very good at his striking too. He can strike. His grappling is better but he can strike -> cos of his MT training, not cos of his grappling training.
On his fights he uses both striking and grappling. Many times it is necessary to use striking to create better grappling situations and to resist the oponent as well. He needs to know striking good to be able to fight with the best of mma. There are other brazilian who came from grappling than learned striking for mma and became good at striking too, but i wont bother posting a list.
OR maybe he should give up that MT training cos he dont need it then :rolleyes:

Stop actiling lika playa hating fool Sevendude, youre pizssing me off now :mad:
I know youre smarter than that :mad:

[SevenStar]

you continue to miss the point bud, but that's cool...

go train your peng or something.

when did you start grappling? I thought you only trained XY right now.

[Water Dragon]

From what I understand, Xebby's been grappling himself in the bathroom for quite a while now.

[turbo76]

:)

[old jong]

Originally posted by rogue
Sure they can Xebs, Royce can even kick. Thing is why hurt your hand trying to knock someone out when you can choke him out in three seconds.

Sure!...But the problem is the half hour of guard work before. ;) (And big John something yelling "come on work! ...Do something" during the whole thing!...;)

[Xebsball]

Originally posted by SevenStar
you continue to miss the point bud, but that's cool...

go train your peng or something.

when did you start grappling? I thought you only trained XY right now.

My beng would make you crap your pants

I began bjj some few month ago or something, then i stopped both XY and bjj for some while (lota school shyt too) and went into vacation. So i should get back now (this week).

Domo-kun owns you standing
Domo-kun owns you on the ground

[Subzero]

I train in ju jitsu axs well as Kung Fu.Belive me ju jnitsu guys can strike. Infact i'm still recovering from a nice dig on the ribs last night.OOOOWWWW:( *rubs rib*

[dezhen2001]

turbo76: i thought the da shifu learned from an old chinese master in chinatown who couldnt speak english so had to get his daughter to translate... or is that something else :confused:

Also what does Sheng Chi Kung Fu mean? Its hard to figure out... sheng chi CAN mean angry, amazing, get chi and other things... :confused:

dawood

[dezhen2001]

Sheng Chi Kung Fu and Sheng Hun Kung Fu Student Forums
These forums are for the use of Sheng Chi Kung Fu and Far East Fighting Arts students only. yup same people...

dawood

[SevenStar]

Trogdor would burninate Domo Kun

[turbo76]

:)

[dezhen2001]

turbo76: good stuff if you ggot what you wanted there :) Im not reallt *that* interested, i was just wondering on the off-chance thats all. I mean im in the UK so we dont even have it over here :)

I was just wondering the connection between Sheng Chi and the far east fighting arts website, coz one of the guys form the FEFA school used to troll here.

dawood

[Shaolin-Do]

What exactly is shou shu? (what styles does it consist of)
(what ranges does it focus on)

[SevenStar]

Do a search on Shou Shu... there's been alot of debate about it here on KFO...

[turbo76]

:)

[turbo76]

:)

[Shaolin-Do]

Snake - swung by tail end at ferocious speeds
Crane - Thrown at unsuspecting enemies with devastating accuracy
Mongoose - Gives enemy excessive alcohol and swindles him for money, sending him to his wife inebriated and broke

Thats how I use them at least...
:)

"Trogdor would burninate Domo Kun"

D@mn skippy.

Anyhow Turbo76, if it works for you, who gives a f*ck what everyone else here says about it? Sh!t, I practice shaolin-Do... We all know what the general concensus of the forum is on that topic....
:D

[turbo76]

:)

[Shaolin-Do]

Nevermind... Thank you for the link. Basically I was saying dont take it personally what people say to you on here about your art.
Seems interesting. Are there any vids on it around? (forms or sparring clips?)

[turbo76]

:)

[Shaolin-Do]

furiousgeorge25@hotmail.com

[turbo76]

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