Tulsa - Wing chun?

[saifa5k]

I am relocating to Tulsa, Ok in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone knew of a school or an individual practicing wing chun there? Any school or lineage would be fine.
Thanks,
Dave C

[canglong]

http://www.wingchun.org/text/schools/usa/ok.html

Hope you find a quality school out that way.

[saifa5k]

Originally posted by canglong
http://www.wingchun.org/text/schools/usa/ok.html

Hope you find a quality school out that way.


Thanks for the link, I will ck it out.
Dave c

[canglong]

Texhoma, lol as much as they hate texans this must have been done by some texans who named the town then moved back home. Check out what it says under the Stillwater school, your welcome and again good luck.

[Gandolf269]

What keeps Texas from falling into the Gulf of Mexico?

Oklahoma sucks!

[yuanfen]

A bad joke- must be a Texas standard by way of Phoenix

[Gandolf269]

Yuanfen,
I thought I'd get a response from you. Hope you had a good birthday. Yes, I am a displaced Texan, but I also lived in Tulsa (graduated from Tulsa Memorial High). My Mom still lives in Tulsa. But I wouldn't move back to either place, after living in the beautiful Southwest. I mean ugly, hot desert. (I don't want anymore people to discover our secret). :D

I'll look you up, at the next WC get together.

David E.

[yuanfen]

My late wife went to Tulsa Central-a long time ago. I got back that way from time to time.... including places south of Tulsa= Okmulgee, Okemah etc Also have lived in Stillwater, Oklahoma City, Norman etc. Tried very hard and succeeded in not living in Tejas. In driving from New Orleans drove like hell- to make it to New mexico so that I wouldnt have to spend a night in Tejas.
I enjoy the drubbings that the Sooners often give the Longhorns.
One of the most horrible motel experiences was in Hereford (West) Texas-
the proof of cow manure was in the air everywhere- even with windows closed,. And at the other end of Texas- Nacagdoches(?)-they havent learned English or Spanish or sign language yet.
Just different gradations of grunts.
I will pass on the Texas Aggie jokes- they would surpass the smells of hereford.
I have a bumper sticker misplaced somewhere that was given bya Mescalero Apache in ski country..If God wanted Texans to ski- he would have given them a mountain. Austin hills dont count-
but the music is great,

If my wife was living, I probably would have a kwoon in Tulsa.

There was a small TWC group there at one time.

The Arizona heat brings out the true self.!

[saifa5k]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gandolf269
[B]Yuanfen,
I thought I'd get a response from you. Hope you had a good birthday. Yes, I am a displaced Texan, but I also lived in Tulsa (graduated from Tulsa Memorial High). My Mom still lives in Tulsa.

Hello David,
do you by any chance know of any individuals practicing WC there? I know back in the late 80's there was a group affiliated with Francis Fong that met in one of the community centers.

Any style would be fine including HFY or TWC as long as it was a pure wing chun style and not a ******* mix.

Dave C

[John Weiland]

Hi Dave,

Why don't you select the Wing Chun teacher you like and move to where he is, or where he regularly visits? :)

I know this may sound, and in fact, be unreasonable. Perhaps you can make regular trips over some distance to find instruction you prefer. While I've been blessed with being close to my instruction, many of our friends have resorted to long distance travel to the source they've chosen.

How old's your son getting to be? You could turn him into a Chi Sao training partner for the periods when you could visit your teacher.

Good luck in your search. I hope you find a good teacher.

Wing Chun to me is still the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :D

All the best,

[saifa5k]

HI John,


Originally posted by John Weiland


Hi Dave,

Why don't you select the Wing Chun teacher you like and move to where he is, or where he regularly visits? :)


**Now that would be nice except there are so many that I like ;).

I know this may sound, and in fact, be unreasonable. Perhaps you can make regular trips over some distance to find instruction you prefer. While I've been blessed with being close to my instruction, many of our friends have resorted to long distance travel to the source they've chosen.

***If I was single with no kids I would do just that. Unfortunatley I am single but with kids and its hard enough just going out on the town on a Friday nite occasionally.

How old's your son getting to be? You could turn him into a Chi Sao training partner for the periods when you could visit your teacher.

***Not a bad idea, if fact have discussed it with the oldest one still at home. Right now though his major interest are girls, girls, and more girls. Might say a chip off the old block ;).

Good luck in your search. I hope you find a good teacher.

**Thanks John, I have faith that I will someday. Maybe I can uncover someone in Tulsa. I know for a fact that back in the 80's there were some good teachers there. One of them was even published in the mags from time to time.

Wing Chun to me is still the most fun you can have with your clothes on. :D

***Ain't it the truth!

Dave c

All the best,

[troy fuller]

saifa5k,

There is still a Francis Fong style wc school in the Tulsa area. Send me an e-mail at fullers@unionps.org and I'll give you details.
It's a small but good school and it's not listed in the phone book.

Troy

[yuanfen]

Hi Troy- saw Lance briefly the other day.
Good wishes, Joy

[troy fuller]

Hello Joy,

Planning on making it to this part of the country anytime soon? If or when you do you're definately welcome at our school. Tell Lance I said hello.

Troy

[saifa5k]

Originally posted by troy fuller
saifa5k,

There is still a Francis Fong style wc school in the Tulsa area. Send me an e-mail at fullers@unionps.org and I'll give you details.
It's a small but good school and it's not listed in the phone book.

Troy

Hello Troy,
Sounds just what I am looking for. I sent you the email.
Dave c

[Gandolf269]

saifa5k -
Sorry I don't know of anyone practicing Wing Chun in Tulsa. Good luck finding a school or someone to practice with.

Yuanfen-
Funny you should mention Nacogdoches. That's were I went to college. It's also the oldest continual settlement/town/city in Texas. I really impressed that you spelled it correctly (even given you high level of education). ;) The only reason OU beats Texas as much as they do is due to the fact that they steal all their good players from Texas (hahaha). As far as staying in Hereford - what did you expect, it shows you really were a foreigner. Trying to make it across Texas in one push is a very big feat indeed, expecially if the speed limit was 55mph. Anyway, like I said earlier, I'll take the heat of the desert anyday to either OK or TEX.

Hook 'em Horns and Happy training,
David

[yuanfen]

Yuanfen-
Funny you should mention Nacogdoches. That's were I went to college. It's also the oldest continual settlement/town/city in Texas.

((Ahem. Warped Texas history. There were earlier American Indian
"settlements". Not all tribes were wandering nomads. For instance: After the 17th century Pueblo revolt in the Spanish retreat they took Pueblo prisoners including Islettas in fleeing southward. One such group ended up in El Paso Texas. Their descendants are still there. Governor Bush once nixed the operation of their (Isletta) casino))

I really impressed that you spelled it correctly (even given you high level of education).

((I aint educated.You didnt think that I would mistake it for its twin (different spelling) across the Lousyana(sp?) border did ya?))

The only reason OU beats Texas as much as they do is due to the fact that they steal all their good players from Texas (hahaha).

((C'Mon now...Darrell Royal who built the Texas machine was an Okie ...quarterbacked in Norman--- did xs and os in class rather than studying. Several Tex staff are ex Sooner assistants. Austin once stole the Oklahoma wishbone formation. BTW one of the stupidest war between the states was when the Okie National Guard and the Texas Rangers had a phony squaring off on a bridge across the Red River. The Dallas Cowboys won superbowls with a couple of Arkies by way of Norman and Stillwater))

As far as staying in Hereford - what did you expect, it shows you really were a foreigner.

((Rather be a furriner than being a Hereford yokel))

Trying to make it across Texas in one push is a very big feat indeed, expecially if the speed limit was 55mph.

((I did it-early early hours of one day to the next. Thanked the stars for making it to Las Cruces, Nueva Mexico....waving goodbye to the great urban center of Anthony, Texas.))

Anyway, like I said earlier, I'll take the heat of the desert anyday to either OK or TEX.

((Fer sure. Boomer/Sooner, The Grapes of Wrath, ferget the Alamo Joy))

[Gandolf269]

Yuanfen says - " There were earlier American Indian
"settlements". Not all tribes were wandering nomads. "

That's true, Nacogdoches was an Caddo Indian settlement long before the Spanish came and built a mission there (in 1716). No warped Texas history there, just the facts. As the story goes Nacogdoches and Natchitoches were Indian twin brothers who were told to run (one east, one west) and where they fell they were to start a settlement. They each ran 50 miles and started settlements, each having bearing the namesake of it's founder.

As far as football rivalry goes. one things certain - it makes for a heck of a party. :D

[yuanfen]

Thanks Gandolph. Actually- twins in creation stories occur in different forms in several traditions. The southeastern tribes had twin stories. My wife's tribe the Creeks also had twins going in different directions at one stage in their legends. My wife and I have the whole legend(Creek) legend in our book.
Many Caddoes were moved westward in Indian removal- some are in Oklahoma- near Anadarko.

We are going far afield ona wing chun list--- but to make ita bit relevant.
Yin/yang balancing is in several tribal traditions as well- including the Creeks. Initial dualism but then balancing in cosmology, medicine and martial ways(pre gun). The coming of firepower has changed things in Chinese kung fu, Japanese weaponry(Seven samurai has the contrast) and in the American Indian tribal world.
The Creeks in their war games(two stick lacrosse) had male and female sticks for balancing. The west, Spain and the Phillipines had their sword and dagger. The softer jab and then the thunder.Balance!

[saifa5k]

As far as football rivalry goes. one things certain - it makes for a heck of a party. :D [/B][/QUOTE]

Arkansas Razorback / Texas Longhorns - Southwest conference - now that was a pretty good ticket seller too. Believe Nixon even attended at least one of the games between the two.

dave c

[Gandolf269]

Yuanfen - I hadn't heard that other tribes also contributed important historical occurances to twins. But, it makes sense. Another one that comes to mind is Remus and Romulas. I'm not sure that I believe the Caddo Indian legend (like I said "as the story goes). I agree that there were other tribes that weren't nomadic. Practically speaking, why would you travel around, if the weather was tolorable year round, and there was plenty of game to found (which is (was!!) certainly the case in the Southern US). But, the key phrase is "continuous settlement/town". Although I haven't personally researched it, there have been many who have and they stand by the claim. Either way, it makes for good folk lore.

Saifa5k - I've always been a Texas fan, but both my parents are Arkansas alum's. So my family usually attended that game (in all 3 locations) . Always great fun regardless of the outcome. Luckily for me, UT usually came out on top. But that meant my poor parents had to take a ribbin' from me for a week.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane guys.
Peace,
David E.