All training is useless w.o. shen?

[bobojoe02]

I rest my case.

What is missing in most martial systems today?

'... Jin is useless without shen or spirit. You could argue that standing has a definite spiritual development aspect, but one of the ways this is different from many others is to illustrate some exercises that play a definite role in developing fighting spirit.

The Three Treasures of life - Jing (life essence), Chi (energy) and Shen (Spirit) - are the basic components which make us "what we are". Although we cannot have an elevated strong spirit without sufficient Jing and Chi,

Shen or Spirit is the most important component of fighting success.

3 TREASURES OF LIFE

Li (Muscle Strength)
<--->
Jing (Life Essence)

Chi (Energy)
<--->
Chi (Energy)
<--->
Shen (Spirit)

The Three Treasures are the necessary components for life. Kung Fu is a way of life. It is also about fighting. Real fighting has nothing to do with competition and pretty forms, etc. Real fighting must be understood as "to the end". It is vicious, merciless and usually over very quickly.

Without shen the spirit, there is no Jin, all training is useless, the Ten Foundations quickly disappear.

Shen or Spirit is the most important component for fighting success. Shen or Spirit is the most important component for fighting success.

[chen zhen]

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[Surferdude]

Jing decreaser

[bobojoe02]

Chen, I see you been busted for pedifiling again, huh?

[Surferdude]

You are a kook!!!:mad:
no one reply to this post!!!:mad:

[bobojoe02]

Originally posted by Surferdude
You are a kook!!!:mad:
no one reply to this post!!!:mad:

You are right, Chen Suck Zhen is a pervert, kook!!!

Facts are hard to accept, huh, suferdude-do?

[Surferdude]

Surferdude-do????
You truly are stupid

[Ray Pina]

Hey surferdude, surf's up! Where you based? It's already shoulder high here with offshore winds and building fast. Forecast is for 7 feet by day's end; 7 feet tomorrow, 8 feet thurs., 10 feet Sat. 10 feet+ sun:eek: Looks like it's going to be a great weekend. Can you say "barreled off my a$$?"

Bobo: Why do you think you are the only one that has this information? Check out my master's website. Direct lineage to Ba Gua's founder. And to be honest, several of my training brothers have been to China and have said the kung fu was pi$$ poor! They said it's dead or dying on it's last leg.

Maybe you know something. But if you've been training for 25 years (let's say you started at 5) ... ah, forget it. Maybe you should put down the martial arts books and pick up Lau Tzu ... Your spirit is jumpy and exciteable for an internal master.

[Starchaser107]

Get mario mask
Platform: Nintendo 64

First you must start the game with the name BoboJoe then play through the game to where you get the Goron mask. When you get the zora mask you must be wearing the Keaton mask when you pull the wounded Zora out of the water, then play the Double Time song untill the last DAY. then wait till you have 4 minutes on the game clock then warp to the owl statue in clock town. Then RUN to the clock where you learned the healing song and talk to the mask guy to get the mario mask. This allows you to become mario and jump on enemys head just like mario!!!

[bobojoe02]

Originally posted by EvolutionFist
Hey surferdude, surf's up! Where you based? It's already shoulder high here with offshore winds and building fast. Forecast is for 7 feet by day's end; 7 feet tomorrow, 8 feet thurs., 10 feet Sat. 10 feet+ sun:eek: Looks like it's going to be a great weekend. Can you say "barreled off my a$$?"

Bobo: Why do you think you are the only one that has this information? Check out my master's website. Direct lineage to Ba Gua's founder. And to be honest, several of my training brothers have been to China and have said the kung fu was pi$$ poor! They said it's dead or dying on it's last leg.

Maybe you know something. But if you've been training for 25 years (let's say you started at 5) ... ah, forget it. Maybe you should put down the martial arts books and pick up Lau Tzu ... Your spirit is jumpy and exciteable for an internal master.

I know those lousy freakin, dumbo masters in China don't know diddly about Cow's disease. Why look at Chen Village Tai Chi, weak, huh? Oh, and Baji? Weaker still, huh? And you and your teacher know more than all of 5 billion Chinese, huh? Ok, there, killer, and you profess to know? No wonder I can't take you ***s.

[Starchaser107]

The Octopus







The octopus is found worldwide in tropical and warm temperate waters. There are many different species of octopi.

The west coast of Florida is a popular site for the Common Octopus which reaches an average size of 24 to 36 inches. The Dwarf Octopus is often found in shells washed up on Florida beaches. It reaches a maximum size of four inches long.

While one of the largest octopi, the North Pacific Octopus, grows to fifteen feet in length and weighs more than one hundred pounds, the smallest, the Californian, only reaches 3/8 to one inch in length. While most octopi are small, the Giant Pacific Octopus can reach more than thirty feet across.










The octopus has a soft body with a well-developed brain, similar to a human's. It is known to be very intelligent. It can dig its own den and close the entrance with stones after it is safely inside. During the day, octopi usually stay in their dens. The den can be recognized by the patch of crab shells at the entrance. Octopi hunt primarily at night or on dark dreary days, thus this is the best time to see them out and about.









The octopus seizes its prey with its eight long arms. These arms bear two rows of suckers each. The hundreds of suckers that line their arms help the octopus to hold on to almost anything.

The octopus feeds on animals such as crustaceans and mollusks, often luring them by wiggling the tip of an arm like a worm. Once caught, the octopus bites the victim, injecting a poisonous venom into their system along with a digestive enzyme. It sucks the flesh from the crustacean and discards the empty shell. If an octopus loses one of its tentacles, it will soon grow another one in the same place.










The octopus has many characteristics that aid in its survival. Along with its eight arms and hundreds of suckers, the octopus has an eye on each side of its head.









While the octopus has very keen eyesight, it is completely deaf. The octopus can shoot a "smokescreen" of black ink at its attackers. This black substance doesn't hurt, it simply gives the octopus time to escape. The octopus can also camouflage itself by changing its skin color or texture similar to its surroundings. The octopus can squeeze through the tiniest hole, move around on its arm, and scoot backwards rapidly by shooting a jet of water through its body.



The female octopus lays up to 150,000 eggs in two weeks. It does not eat until the eggs hatch in 50 days. Because of this, many mothers die of starvation.

[CaptinPickAxe]

idiocy never ceases to amaze me...

[Starchaser107]

http://www.chinasprout.com/store/V005.html :p

[IronFist]

Originally posted by Starchaser107
The Octopus







The octopus is found worldwide in tropical and warm temperate waters. There are many different species of octopi.

The west coast of Florida is a popular site for the Common Octopus which reaches an average size of 24 to 36 inches. The Dwarf Octopus is often found in shells washed up on Florida beaches. It reaches a maximum size of four inches long.

While one of the largest octopi, the North Pacific Octopus, grows to fifteen feet in length and weighs more than one hundred pounds, the smallest, the Californian, only reaches 3/8 to one inch in length. While most octopi are small, the Giant Pacific Octopus can reach more than thirty feet across.










The octopus has a soft body with a well-developed brain, similar to a human's. It is known to be very intelligent. It can dig its own den and close the entrance with stones after it is safely inside. During the day, octopi usually stay in their dens. The den can be recognized by the patch of crab shells at the entrance. Octopi hunt primarily at night or on dark dreary days, thus this is the best time to see them out and about.









The octopus seizes its prey with its eight long arms. These arms bear two rows of suckers each. The hundreds of suckers that line their arms help the octopus to hold on to almost anything.

The octopus feeds on animals such as crustaceans and mollusks, often luring them by wiggling the tip of an arm like a worm. Once caught, the octopus bites the victim, injecting a poisonous venom into their system along with a digestive enzyme. It sucks the flesh from the crustacean and discards the empty shell. If an octopus loses one of its tentacles, it will soon grow another one in the same place.










The octopus has many characteristics that aid in its survival. Along with its eight arms and hundreds of suckers, the octopus has an eye on each side of its head.









While the octopus has very keen eyesight, it is completely deaf. The octopus can shoot a "smokescreen" of black ink at its attackers. This black substance doesn't hurt, it simply gives the octopus time to escape. The octopus can also camouflage itself by changing its skin color or texture similar to its surroundings. The octopus can squeeze through the tiniest hole, move around on its arm, and scoot backwards rapidly by shooting a jet of water through its body.



The female octopus lays up to 150,000 eggs in two weeks. It does not eat until the eggs hatch in 50 days. Because of this, many mothers die of starvation.

Nicely done.

IronFist

[Surferdude]

8 feet in NY???:confused: :rolleyes:
Mabe if you get that Hurrican off the coast...BTW i'm in NJ, Best surf on the East coast!!!!!:D :p

[Ray Pina]

Ah, I grew up surfing Manasquan ... the military base mostly (only the inlet in the winter to avoid crowds.)

It's not 8 feet yet, just about shoulder high. They say it's going to build through the night.

The thing about LI is that we face south, so we're very sensitive to south swells. Jersey breaks great. I haven't surfed Manasquan in about 3 years. But you should check out Long Island. There is a true sand bottom point break about 30 minutes from me that is uncrowded -- you have to hoof it in about 2 miles. Further out east we have cobble stone point breaks and rock reef breaks. Block Island also goes off but you didn't hear that from me.
:cool:

[bobojoe02]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Starchaser107
[B]The Octopus

These arms bear two rows of suckers each. The hundreds of suckers that line their arms help the octopus to hold on to almost anything...cept Staar Chaser 107 whose too nasty to hold to.

While the octopus has very keen eyesight, it is completely deaf like Staar Chaser 107...deaf and dumbo-

Yeah, suckers and deafness as in starchaser.
Staar Chaser 107 says it all, deafsucker, huh?

Facts is hard to take, when you is who u is, yeah?

You can't beat me, or my sister on here, now, how about in person? Whopped by a little 11 year old girl, octoPuSEE.

You'd end up same way, talkin bout octopUsEEE, your real name.

[Ray Pina]

Bobo, I've asked you a few times now: who are you, from whom did you learn and where is your nearest NYC representative?

Until you answer that, by your behavior, I have no reason to think that you are nothing more than a pimply teenager who -- though loving his Chinese heritage -- has done nothing more than read a few books, browsed a few websites and watched Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon a few too many times.

No fighter that I know worth a $hit cares so much about another's training. I put in my two cents here and there, but the important stuff, you don't share that. There's a handful of guys on this sight who I think have "kung fu", whether they study TCMA or BJJ doesn't matter to me. You can tell their experience by their posts. Others say things that I would have said 3, 4, 5, 7 years ago. I know where they are at and, if you've studied as long as you say you have, you should have been there too.

Do you barge into high school's and diss their inadequcies in physics and philosophy?:p

[FatherDog]

Originally posted by Surferdude
8 feet in NY???:confused: :rolleyes:
Mabe if you get that Hurrican off the coast...BTW i'm in NJ, Best surf on the East coast!!!!!:D :p

Really? Whereabouts are you located? I was just down in Ocean City this weekend, and the waves were terrible :mad:

[Starchaser107]

i'll beat you like the poor dead horses you keep attacking and sell your little sister on the black market u punk , dont kid yourself:D

[SanSoo Student]

REMEMBER EVERYONE ITS NOT BOBOJOE...
ITS HOBOJOE.

He is too poor to pay for internet at home, and resorts to communicate with us via pc cafe. :eek:

Why is he too poor? Becuase he spent all his money on "Teach yourself in dim mak in 5 easy steps!"

Problem is he only has the first tape, because he can't afford the other ones yet. So he only knows the names of the chi forces and jing force.

Remember "SAY NO TO EZ DIM MAK VIDEOS!"

[Ray Pina]

I live in Long Beach NY, between Kennedy Airport and Jones Beach.

It was flat here all weekend too. The winter, spring and early summer were good but it's been slow of late. Right now it's still only shoulder high but it should begin increasing this afternoon.

I don't know if you surf or not. The thing about the east coast (I admit, it's no Hawaii, Calif. or Costa Rica) is that when foolks usually go to the beach it's a clear, sunny, beautiful day = no waves.

But when there's a Nor Easter, a huge low pressure system dumpring a foot of snow, or in this case a hurricane coming, the surfcan get quite good. This is the season.

Long Island, unlike NJ, Del., Maryland which face east, faces south, so we get some swells that pass you guys buy. But check the beach out on Sat. and Sun. There's no doubt you guys will be getting hit with some good surf.

Surferdude. It's going to be North (offshore) here Sat. and Sun. if you want to hit a point break. No bull$hit, 200 yard perfect left pealing into a bay ... we'll have to hike 1.5-2 miles though to be BLUNT about it:cool:

The surf outfront though should be A-framing with 40 to 50 yard walls.

[Ray Pina]

Here's a link to a surf movie trailer a friend of mine made -- all local footage: http://www.unsoundsurf.com/pages/couchtour.html

[FatherDog]

Originally posted by EvolutionFist
I live in Long Beach NY, between Kennedy Airport and Jones Beach.

It was flat here all weekend too. The winter, spring and early summer were good but it's been slow of late. Right now it's still only shoulder high but it should begin increasing this afternoon.

I don't know if you surf or not. The thing about the east coast (I admit, it's no Hawaii, Calif. or Costa Rica) is that when foolks usually go to the beach it's a clear, sunny, beautiful day = no waves.

I bodysurf; no board. But not very often, unfortunately; I live on the Jersey/Pennsylvania border, so I don't have time to get to the shore too often.