Chinese medicine for sceptics/curious

[Pilgrim]

Just to keep the ball bouncing ,besides itmonline.org here's a couple of other resources. Look under google or yahoo search engines for: (1)vilberto's home page, herbs, acupuncture; (2)bluepoppy.com; (3) planetherbs.com(in the links section,"debunking the debunkers" is great; (4)chineseherbacademy.org; (5)pulsemed.org; (6)nada.org
Other books such as Medicine in China by Paul Unschuld, Encounters With Chi/Qi by Eisen, the Web That Has No Weaver by Kaptchuck, any books by Dr. Andrew Weil,or lighter reading along the lines of Scholarly Warrior by Deng Ming Dao, The Way of Qigong by Ken Cohen, Qigong Empowerment by Liang and Wu, Road To Heaven, Encounter With Chinese Hermits by Bill Porter offer glimpses into the lifestyle of alternative/complementary medicine. Sceptics may scoff at the information found in the preceding ( there's a lot of articles in a place like itmonline and planet herbs, lots of resources in all the links, lots of them )but open minds continue to look and see more will be revealed.

[Former castleva]

"Sceptics may scoff at the information found in the preceding ( there's a lot of articles in a place like itmonline and planet herbs, lots of resources in all the links, lots of them )but open minds continue to look and see more will be revealed."

False dilemma+Prejudicial language.
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Skeptics need not scoff at anything,not a character of it.
Neither do skeptics need ignore the information (not black&white).Terms,qualities "open mind" are linked to one´s supposed approach to the subject.Again,skepticism=not the same as,say,"non-open-minded".

"(3) planetherbs.com(in the links section,"debunking the debunkers" is great; "

The link was broken.

[Pilgrim]

Just wondering if you have read any of those books or gone to the web sites to read the articles , some of which are written by medical docters, PHD's in organic chemestry, and other professionals. Have you read and then read their footnotes and biblio's? The books and articles contain a vast resource of useful information in the bibliographies and footnotes. Really, read Encounters With Chi, written by one of the directors of Harvard med school and a member of the NIH. The reason is he went to China to study the medicine and chi and came from a scientific method background. Maybe you can write how Dr. Eisen changed during the trip to China and why TCM does't fit into the scientific method? That is in the book.

[method man]

Originally posted by Former castleva
"Sceptics may scoff at the information found in the preceding ( there's a lot of articles in a place like itmonline and planet herbs, lots of resources in all the links, lots of them )but open minds continue to look and see more will be revealed."

False dilemma+Prejudicial language.
;
Skeptics need not scoff at anything,not a character of it.
Neither do skeptics need ignore the information (not black&white).Terms,qualities "open mind" are linked to one´s supposed approach to the subject.Again,skepticism=not the same as,say,"non-open-minded".

"(3) planetherbs.com(in the links section,"debunking the debunkers" is great; "

The link was broken.


u forget 1 more http://www.quackwatch.org

scienc that don fit scienc method is call MAGIC OR VOODOO OR JUST QUACK FROM CON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chen zhen]

watch out:o

[Former castleva]

Pilgrim,
Yes.I have read plenty,good deal of your material included.
Have not read the books though.
Would you like me to point out a few books from a different viewpoint?

"Maybe you can write how Dr. Eisen changed during the trip to China and why TCM does't fit into the scientific method? That is in the book."

I do not think I have much to comment on other people´s experiences.