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ShifuBinks
10-20-2003, 09:45 PM
The fight is up on our website...it is in two parts...I couldn't post it on here b/c it's an MPEG...oh and if you don't mind please right click and save it otherwise our site will crash...but if you are afraid it is a virus I understand and you can just left click and our site will crash soon.
Thanks. Enjoy...

http://www.geocities.com/baltimoresanshou/BaltimoreSanshou.html

Serpent
10-20-2003, 09:55 PM
Site's down already!

ShifuBinks
10-20-2003, 09:56 PM
PHAK does anyone know how to convert MPEG to a different type of file?

shaolin kungfu
10-20-2003, 09:56 PM
I geuss I shouldnt have lef clicked, huh.

ShifuBinks
10-20-2003, 10:04 PM
You B@ST@Rd no Im just kidding we will fix this problem ASAP so everyone can see the fight...hopefully Jowbacca can fix it tomorrow morning Im too tired **** it

SifuAbel
10-20-2003, 10:09 PM
How big is it?

SifuAbel
10-20-2003, 10:50 PM
Ha Ha very funny.


Two words:



****ing Stupid.

SifuAbel
10-20-2003, 10:54 PM
Now we know once and for all that MKC is a Troll. And this whole thread is to mock "traditionalists"

SD now will be visited by various gay black porn stars.

SHISHKABOB!!!!!!!!!!

Here's a picture of the expected reactions from this board.

Expected reactions. (http://home.earthlink.net/~drhchan/thefinger.jpg)

Brad
10-20-2003, 11:13 PM
LOL, that was horrible :D

SifuAbel
10-20-2003, 11:13 PM
Man, what a couple of retards. Is that what you guys look like? Was that the special olympics gym?

Shaolin-Do
10-20-2003, 11:24 PM
Stupid link not working.
I figured it was a troll. :eek:
But I still want to see the vids.

SifuAbel
10-20-2003, 11:27 PM
Just so that others don't have to wait to see these masterpieces. I will host them for a brief period.


I''m sure everyones seen this stupidity enough. I am now deleteing them from my space.

T'ai Ji Monkey
10-20-2003, 11:29 PM
I want a refund for wasted time in downloading and watching those clips.

:D

Hey, I seen better fights at the local Dragon Tots McDojo.
:p

jon
10-21-2003, 12:13 AM
sif if that wasnt pretty funny :D
Some people take things way to seriously.

Serpent
10-21-2003, 12:38 AM
Not only was that a troll, it was a LAME troll.

2/10.

If you guys were going to go to this much trouble you could have
at least put some effort in!

*shakes head*

What is the world coming to?

*wonders off muttering about kids today*

brothernumber9
10-21-2003, 04:44 AM
shananigans!!!!!!!!!!

Jowbacca
10-21-2003, 05:11 AM
SifuAble
Don't take it personally.
Heck, I lion dance for the Wongs in DC (Jow Ga); ShifuBinks is an instructor at his school (US Kuoshu Academy); and Suntzu obviously remembered enough of that 2 man set to pull it off in 2 takes.
Don't think we're anti-traditionalist.
We were just poking fun at the heated "san shou vs traditional" argument....and you know what they say about arguing on the internet....

Serpent
Still trying to up your post count huh?
.....yeah....

Serpent
10-21-2003, 05:15 AM
No, I meant it. That was a pretty lame troll.

Jowbacca
10-21-2003, 05:28 AM
don't you have a sixty-something year old man to be hiding from?

here's a shiny new quarter, go buy yerself a sense of humor.

brothernumber9
10-21-2003, 05:42 AM
If only somehow the glow chucks could have made it into the fight in some way.

Jowbacca
10-21-2003, 05:45 AM
Bro #9
I was just thinking about that...
we'll try to do that in the sequel....:D

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 05:59 AM
Thank you thank you..... i would like to think the academy.... i would like to especially like to thank Abel and Coach Ross.... the both of whom inspired this great masterpiece.... my film crew... and all the actors involved.... their creativity can not be surmounted.... EVER............ to all the trolls past, present and future..... we have raised the bar and it is your job to continue our work and take trolling to the next level.......... and to all those with no sense of humor........ it wasn't made for yall in the first place....... :D


the glow chucks would have been a good idea......

Water Dragon
10-21-2003, 06:06 AM
Man oh man. And you guys say the TCMA crowd has no life...

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 06:20 AM
we ARE "traditional"..... hence... u are correct..... :D

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 06:42 AM
Guys this was made for everyone's enjoyment so if you don't like it we will just have to keep making them until we make one that you do like...I thought it was hilarious, it had more laughs than all of Pauly Shores movies combined...
And its all in good fun we weren't saying tradition sucks...as Chowbacca said we come from traditional backgrounds and we knew that 2-man set...

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 06:47 AM
LOL @ "Chowbacca"

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 06:47 AM
I want a refund for wasted time in downloading and watching those clips.

We can give no refund because we did not make anyone pay to view our professionally produced video...we made no profit and did it solely for love of the martial arts...

I want my time back from watching Greek Wedding and the people who made that are filthy rich...

And does no one appreciate the fact that I walked around Gold's Gym in the karate kid headband and footgear?

SanShou Guru
10-21-2003, 07:37 AM
Suntzu unfortunately that was the best I have seen you fight so far. ;)

Did you ever fight Pope or Norman?

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 07:40 AM
:mad: ............. :D ......

No..... i'm getting a lil too big for Pope.... thats my excuse anyway...... and i'm sure i'll see Norman in my future........

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 07:42 AM
Man, what a couple of retards. Is that what you guys look like? Was that the special olympics gym?

Nah, we aren't THAT good looking in real life. Most of the fight scenes were CGI and our make-up artists spent hours getting us ready for those close ups at the end.

The DVD will be ready soon and will feature "a behind the scenes look at Musical Kata Champ vs. Sun Tzu".

Abel you may hate us but if you hadn't hosted those clips no one would have seen all our hard work...sniff...thanks man.

SanShou Guru
10-21-2003, 07:43 AM
Suntzu, how much are you weighing now and how is Jurgan's shoulder?

Jowbacca
10-21-2003, 07:55 AM
The ringin in my ears and my stiff jaw tell me that Jurgan's shoulders ain't too bad.

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 08:03 AM
right now i'm hovering around 150....... note Jow's post for shoulder update....... Jurgen clips forth comming...... enough with the scouting reports......:D

SanShou Guru
10-21-2003, 08:07 AM
Sorry and good. Even though he is not in Boston any more I want him to do well I told him to go to you guys or Honeycutt, whichever was closer. I'm glad he ended up there. When he comes to visit Boston we can fix all the stuff you guys teach him.
:p

Suntzu the 144 class will be a tough next year I think. Norman only fights that low for worlds and Pope is not likely to fight in round robin tournaments anymore. So that leaves Kengo (Cung), Jose Palacios (Cung), Ed Carpio (Cung), Dunkin Duffin (Solo), and Ian Morgan (NYKK) in that range.

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 08:16 AM
Jurgen seems to have taken a liken to our restaurants :D.......

some of my favorite people in that class..... after the KoSD, i'll try to get back down.... some people i want to get reaquainted with....

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:06 AM
"i would like to especially like to thank Abel and Coach Ross."

I thought so, so i'm a musical kata champ, huh? Man, you tards don't know ****.

"as Chowbacca said we come from traditional backgrounds and we knew that 2-man set..."

You've made a mockery of yourself then, congratulations.

That was the most pathetic excuse for a form I have ever seen. You at least could have done it right and made it look less like two stupid turds making a movie.

"Abel you may hate us but if you hadn't hosted those clips no one would have seen all our hard work...sniff...thanks man."


Whats funny is that you somehow think this is cool.

I hosted this so everyone can see what a total ass' looks like. The only ones on this thread that liked it were kud tzu and chewtabacca.

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 09:14 AM
:( ........... so sad my form sucked :( .... :rolleyes:........
I thought so, so i'm a musical kata champ, huh? guilty conscience???....... sensitive metro???... can't take a joke??? do some kegels perhaps......
You at least could have done it right and made it look less like two stupid turds making a movie. its supposed to look like 2 tard fu(kin up a form...... mocking TMA??... NO.... mocking stupid internet challenges????....YES....
I hosted this so everyone can see what a total ass' looks like. yep..... that's what total a$$es look like...... which was the point............

lkfmdc
10-21-2003, 09:18 AM
the only sad thing is, if these clips stay up on the internet, I know that someday someone will post them as an example of good traditional kung fu sparring :D

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:21 AM
" guilty conscience???....... "

Bwahahahaha
I think my teacher would filet us if we did a musical "kata".


No, not at all sunshine. This is the same typical BS that shows that you guys are under the impression that you are unique.

Talk about the absolute master of bation.

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by lkfmdc
the only sad thing is, if these clips stay up on the internet, I know that someday someone will post them as an example of good traditional kung fu sparring :D

Don't get me started. Ignorance is the currency of children.

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 09:29 AM
I thought so, so i'm a musical kata champ, huh? Man, you tards don't know ****.

Abel, although the challenge between you and Ross inspired our movie, you guys were not the basis for the characters. Me Sun Tzu and Jowbacca were in this pizzeria one day and decided we should have a challenge like Ross and Abel and make a video of us doing a two man set...so while we are grateful to you and Ross for giving us the idea, the characters were not even loosely based on you guys.

Again I would like to emphasize that we were not maliciously making fun of anyone, I was hoping people on here would laugh at the video rather than get mad at it.

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 09:31 AM
Abel, you've got it all wrong. This is a misunderstanding. Now join the rest of us in anxiously awaiting the sequel.

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 09:32 AM
well...... whatever.... i'm not getting into a cyber pi$$ing contest.... for real this time.......... the $hit is funny to me..... u obviously have no sense of humor..... tard-like or Dennis Miller-like...... can't please everybody....... Coach Ross u know we luv u man.... so you don't have to send James on a murder mission..... see u in a couple of weeks....... oh yeah KING of SAN DA USA..... Nov 8th.... BE THERE..........:D

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:34 AM
" yep..... that's what total a$$es look like...... which was the point..........."


Great, you did it. You look like a total perckerwood ******* trying to mock what you barley know.

:rolleyes:

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:36 AM
It still came off like a **** at a funeral.

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 09:42 AM
I'm going to try to make this point one more time...
We made the video for FUN. We were not ridiculing anyone except for maybe ourselves and Ralph Macchio.
I respect all martial artists on this forum, irrespective of style. All of the people shown in the video are serious kung fu students.

I suggest people learn to enjoy these videos because we have a contract with New Line Cinema for at least 5 or 6 more movies.

lkfmdc
10-21-2003, 09:43 AM
Abel, you aren't really upset at this are you? Cuban tempers :D

It's frat boy humor, low end, but nothing to get worked up over, isn't like they called you a communist LMFAO :D

And you will admit, that many so called traditional guys Do give you a bad name... like the Wong Kiew Kit idiot who thinks he can win a gold medal in Olympic TKD anytime he wants without training because "kung fu kicks are better" and who posted a two man set as if it was real sparring....

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:46 AM
:rolleyes:

"Oh, I'm sorry I ****ed on your mothers dead body." "I still respect your family."

Dude, save the troll bait. Fool me once shame on you, fools me twice shame on me.

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 09:47 AM
Great, you did it. You look like a total perckerwood ******* trying to mock what you barley know. yep we barely know internet beefs..........:rolleyes:
It's frat boy humor, low end, exactly...... why do u hate america??

:D

fa_jing
10-21-2003, 09:47 AM
I thought it was funny as sh!t. In fairly good taste, considering this is KFM.

Keep 'em coming!


And to be fair, the second clip mocked MMA just as much as the first clip mocked TMA. Playing to the stereotypes, that's what this brand of humor is about!

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 09:52 AM
"that many so called traditional guys Do give you a bad name... "

Thats a given, but since I'm lumped with them I have to at least hold up my end.

I don't concider them "traditional" guys anyway.

And no, its not like I'm at home throwing mothers china against the floor.

You know, as well as I, that I have the tact of a stone ax. I call them as I see them. I see two delinquents spraying graffitti on a wall, I'm not going to call it art. (unless it is, of course)

Jowbacca
10-21-2003, 09:54 AM
If u must know, the basis for the MKC character was a lot more Wayne Dalglish (http://www.waynedalglish.com) than a poke at real traditionalists. Well him, and the passing off of obvious 2 man sets as real fight clips.

Abel, last I heard, you don't swing the glow chucks and scream at the top of your lungs, so I don't see the reason for getting upset.

"Unique"?!?! Where the heck does that come from? You, us, and Ross all train to fight. Take it for what it is: 3 bored idiots, poking fun at chromed bo staffs, headbands, mullets, "know it all posturing", karate kid philosphy, and arguments over what's the "correct" way to do stuff regardless of whether it works or not.

Guess a small chuckle would be too much to ask if you're feeling targeted; but the clip was never about you.

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 09:55 AM
now u diss graffitti (the good burners not the crappy tag stuff???)..... GAWD MAN!!!!!

SifuAbel
10-21-2003, 10:06 AM
Yes , I remember this.

wayneuso00.mpeg (http://www.waynedalglish.com/wayneuso00.mpeg)

He looked like he was having an epileptic seizure.

If this is what you wanted to mock then this is what you should have done.


Not do some bukkake version of a kung fu form.

Don't expect me to "take a joke" if you can't take the response.

fa_jing
10-21-2003, 10:15 AM
I have a Wing Chun vs. 7* Mantis clip, friendly open handed sparring. It's 2-3 minutes long. The practicioners are both experienced teachers, and pretty good, although not "Masters" probably by most people's definition. My sifu taped it. He was ragging on them a little for gassing so quickly, but the action is pretty good and it looks like they are using their styles 100%. Shadowboxer is editting my clips and this is one of them. Just thought I'd throw that out there if someone wants to host it. Apoweyn has agreed to host my clips, but he doesn't have much space and so will have to rotate them in and out.

David Jamieson
10-21-2003, 10:41 AM
well, i'm personally disappointed that there was not one shot of the superfluous nipple in question and instead we see 2 superfluous nipples doing a poor imitation of what appears to be some sort of mating ritual. :D

lol, you guys are goofballs, and you have insulted the shaolin temple, my family, the dog next door and some guy named ted who lives across the street from me.

Jowbacca
10-21-2003, 10:43 AM
Was just trying to make sure you knew we weren't associating you with MusicalKataChamp. If you want to associate yourself with MusicalKataChamp, then that's your decision. Otherwise, i could really give a feck what you think; and I know the feeling's mutual. :)

Suntzu
10-21-2003, 11:01 AM
Don't expect me to "take a joke" if you can't take the response. actually your responses are great.....


and you have insulted the shaolin temple, my family, the dog next door and some guy named ted who lives across the street from me. i'm honored :D .... LOL @ "mating ritual"

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 12:32 PM
Thank you to everyone who watched our movie and commented on it...you are carrying on the work that Wayne Dalglish started...I encourage others to create similar yet original movies and take our work to an even higher level...

Look for part 2 real soon...

Ralphie
10-21-2003, 12:54 PM
I thought it was funny fwiw. It reminded me of when I worked at a Show Biz Pizza place when in high school, and a guy, dressed in full karate gear walzed in to challenge a drug dealer who hung out there playing video games all day. He actually wore a karate kid head band just like that.

It did lose its effect during the fight portion of it...should have been more of a spoof than a 2 man form.

Serpent
10-21-2003, 06:01 PM
Yeah, just to clarify, I think the idea is really funny. It should have been a right laugh. But you guys just did a really bad job of it, that's all. Props for the effort you went to, I guess.

*shrug*

Musicalkatachmp
10-21-2003, 08:22 PM
If anyone wants to see the fight but our website is down let me know and I will email you the file.

Khun Kao Charuad
10-22-2003, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Musicalkatachmp
If anyone wants to see the fight but our website is down let me know and I will email you the file.

HEY!!! Email it to me!!!

khun.kao@verizon.net or....
bmiller@primustel.com if its over 10MB's

Were you able to convert any of the other sparring matches from this last weekend? I'd really like to see them....

Brooks (Khun Kao)

Musicalkatachmp
10-22-2003, 08:46 AM
Shoot Brooks my e-mail isn't letting me send it...maybe Sun Tzu or Jowbacca can send it...I don't think the file is that big...I should have the sparring clips up by this weekend too.

Suntzu
10-22-2003, 08:53 AM
sent......

Mutant
10-22-2003, 10:49 AM
okay guys thats some funny sh!t
:D :D :D :D :D :D

rubthebuddha
10-22-2003, 11:03 AM
how big is ze file?

Musicalkatachmp
10-22-2003, 11:59 AM
The first clip is 1336 KB and the second is 627 KB I think...the whole thing is like 1 min 30 sec long...

Khun Kao Charuad
10-22-2003, 12:23 PM
Were you guys going to email this weekends sparring to me, or post it on the web for download?

B

Suntzu
10-22-2003, 12:27 PM
we were going to post ours and send you your two guys....

Khun Kao Charuad
10-22-2003, 12:35 PM
Cool. That works.

B

Jowbacca
10-23-2003, 07:37 AM
Don't post mine. The LAST thing I need is for the whole world to be laughin at me for "getting to know the mat" so many times. :D

rubthebuddha
10-23-2003, 08:30 AM
just say you were practicing your yoga, in which you are invited to relax on the ground for a moment and put your all into it. :D

Jowbacca
10-23-2003, 09:30 AM
Yah but the big, resounding *THWAP* that goes along with it would still sound painful LOL

rogue
10-23-2003, 12:51 PM
Does Sifu Abel really look like that?

SifuAbel
10-23-2003, 01:52 PM
:rolleyes:


Actually, I look more like


This (http://home.earthlink.net/~drhchan/thefinger.jpg)

rogue
10-23-2003, 07:28 PM
Do you look like the finger or the bugger on the end of it?:confused:

I know you're just upset over the entire Liza Minnelli/David Gest thing. Hang in there and think fabulous thoughts.

SifuAbel
10-23-2003, 08:53 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu