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Unmatchable
01-02-2004, 03:31 PM
Reading this thread:
http://www.mma.tv/TUF/DisplayMessages.cfm?TID=346931&P=128&FID=1&c=1

How would you go about fighting a monster the size, strengh, determination, athletisism, and killer instinct of an NFL player with your "soft" style? Especially since most of you don't do ground fighting what would you do if he picks you up and slams you on your head or tackles you on concerete and continues to punch your head in on the ground?

kungfu cowboy
01-02-2004, 03:53 PM
Simple. So simple it is almost simply silly! The untrained brutish and undoubtably dull boorish uncultured footballer relies on clumsy and large goofy slapstick comedy movements of attack. So, with the training of internal martial arts, it is merely almost an unnecessarily simple thing to redirect the incoming attack through the root, into the ground, and right back into the football man focused with refined internal intent into a laser beam of woeful agony which would very much resemble playing with a child with rickets. Was this a trick question?

QuaiJohnCain
01-02-2004, 03:57 PM
The takedown trolling is getting old.

Unmatchable
01-02-2004, 04:07 PM
How will you finish him, once he hits the ground he will be right back and assuming he is angry and won't stop fighting until knocked out, or really hurt.

Brad
01-02-2004, 05:38 PM
If I had to fight someone whose natuarally bigger, faster, and stronger then I am and has had the bennifit of grueling NFL workouts to make him even bigger stronger and faster than he was before, I'm pretty sure I'd get my @ss kicked no matter what I studdied :p Even with groundfighting knowledge, I think I'd get clobbered on the ground(a lot of these guys were wrestlers too). Maybe get on his back and beat him in the back of the head and try and stick finger in his eye? Crush his balls(it's worked for a couple women in domestic abuse situations)? Shoot him? I'd just hope that I'm a smarter and dirtier fighter than he is :p

This is all assuming I'm fighting one of the bigger guys, and not someone like Martin Gramatica(who'd probably give me one good kick, then hurt himself celebrating :D) :p

Brad
01-02-2004, 05:40 PM
Actually, I don't think I'd fare to well against any pro contact sport athlete :p

BAI HE
01-02-2004, 06:14 PM
How would you "Unmatchable" aka "Enforcer"?
Certainly after training MT and BJJ for three months each
you must have the answer.

Were I you? I'd go train something, anything, for more than three months then give us your opinion.

Am I asking too much of you?

BAI HE
01-02-2004, 06:15 PM
Excuse me, that was three months of Judo not BJJ. My bad.

Chin Chung Cao
01-02-2004, 07:06 PM
I think that's what gun's were made for, to equalize the playing field. No offense, but how many people get beat down by football player's? An for that matter, if your a 145lb. grappler your not going to fair much better against a guy who out weigh's you by a hundred pound's. In the street it all come's down to one second, either he hit's the ground or you do, literally.

GroungJing
01-02-2004, 07:50 PM
Hey!!



It's the Unmatchable Plagiarist!

welcome back....



Are you Power Boasting again?



NFL player vs what?........"LOL"

Hey Unmatchable fool

riddle me this........................................

"What if little trolls had wings?"

"Would they bump their butts when they jumped?"



lol...lol....lol....


I'm laughing to hard to continue




Hey everyone what is the weather like in your area?

Unmatchable
01-02-2004, 11:53 PM
Ok lets assume he is your size and strengh, what strategy would you use fighting him. And yes I have done a few months of Muay Thai and Judo, and recently went to two boxing lessons that almost killed me (endurance wise). Bagua is the only internal style that interests me.

Shooter
01-03-2004, 06:29 AM
-30 here this morning and lots of snow. -42 with the wind-chill.

Chin Chung Cao
01-03-2004, 10:04 AM
The problem with your thread is that you assume. You can theorize a situation to death. Until the opponent is in front of you and it's time to get real, you really dont know what you will do. There are to many variable's that enter into the picture, if you've been trained properly, clear your mind and let it go. quit worrying about "what if" and train harder, it will get you better prepared if it does happen and by training more it will allow you less time to go places where you can get into those situation's.

doug maverick
01-04-2004, 02:25 PM
i do what i use to do in high school if some dumb ass jock messed with me, a small amount of fa jing write to the throat. always put them on there ass. and i'd laugh and laugh, and leave.
but truth be told i played high school foot ball and some of my team mates studied the internal arts like tai chi. so they could relax and be flexible some sucked some new how to throw down so you never know. my teacher always told me never have preconcieved thought of a situation just handle it as it comes. that means to niether under nor over estimate what your opponent does or does not know.

scotty1
01-05-2004, 06:43 AM
"my teacher always told me never have preconcieved thought of a situation just handle it as it comes. that means to niether under nor over estimate what your opponent does or does not know."

Good tai chi.

Unmatchable - your styles of Judo and MT will not mean that you're any better prepared to meet someone like that than someone training an internal style martially and with the proper intentions.

If someone is training their internal style the same way as you're training your styles (ie. hopefully, with some hard contact) then you have no advantage over them.

Get it?

Unmatchable
01-06-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by scotty1
"my teacher always told me never have preconcieved thought of a situation just handle it as it comes. that means to niether under nor over estimate what your opponent does or does not know."

Good tai chi.

Unmatchable - your styles of Judo and MT will not mean that you're any better prepared to meet someone like that than someone training an internal style martially and with the proper intentions.

If someone is training their internal style the same way as you're training your styles (ie. hopefully, with some hard contact) then you have no advantage over them.

Get it?

I never said that. But how are you gonna finish a fight against someone who can't be ko'd? Unless you stranggle/choke them or put them in some sort of a lock Neija doesn't teach.

BTW Bai He I not only posted on empty flower but I almost ruined Jarek's forum, got banned on shenwu (remember blakeism?), did some damage on Bullshido, got banned on jet li forum, as well as mma.tv, banned on askmen.com (dating site) for posting pornographic stories but have other usernames, Ip banned on zsnes.com (video game site), and almost got banned on quake3world. My reputation will soon be legendary more so than kkm and kungfools.

Chin Chung Cao
01-06-2004, 05:05 PM
Your a legend in your own mind. That's quite a history you have there. You surely must be proud. By the way, how old are you? From your post I'd guess 16, you show are great lack of maturity if you are proud of being banned on so many site's. From the short amount of time you've been training my advice to you would be to train a couple of more year's and build up some real experiance. As for your post about choking out a football player, those that can do, those that can't talk about it.:)