how do you fight a mantis practitioner?

[monkeyboxing]

What strategy would you use to fight a mantis practitioner? I've read some of their fighting theories and they seem pretty hard to beat, because they use quick footwork to close the range and then unbalance the opponent while trapping and firing rapid fire hand strikes to vital points.

[BeiTangLang]

Originally posted by monkeyboxing
What strategy would you use to fight a mantis practitioner? I've read some of their fighting theories and they seem pretty hard to beat, because they use quick footwork to close the range and then unbalance the opponent while trapping and firing rapid fire hand strikes to vital points.


Hmmm,..tough one. I would most likely use quick footwork to close the range and then unbalance the opponent while trapping and firing rapid fire hand strikes. :D
<j/k>
***Sorry,...had to say it***

Its hard to explain because each fighter you come up against will at least appear to have different open spots, weaknesses or definiencies. A very hard question to answer.

Another thing, I would not target vital spots unless myself or those around me are in actual danger.
Best wishes,
~BTL

[Battosai]

hmmmm

against mantis...

squish them with your shoe :D

(they tend to crunch)

[isol8d]

I would try to use a cidada or a sparrow, depending on if it was northern or southern mantis.....

[darksands]

My cat defeated a mantis once. One way of defeating a mantis is using a billion ants. I had a mantis once and one day when I got home, It was bombarded by a billion ants. Ants are scary.

[monkeyboxing]

*sigh* Is anybody going to make a serious post?

[SevenStar]

There aren't any serious posts because it's not a serious question. Fighting is not so static that you can have a set strategy against a certain style. Take for example a thai boxer. you may think "okay, avoid his knees and elbows - no infighting." what if the thai boxer in question prefers punches and kicks? what if he likes kicks and elbows? within a style, you will have practitioners that favor certain aspects of the style more than others.

Then, you have to account for physical attributes. Would you fight a tall mantis guy the same way you'd fight a short, stocky one? Nah. And chances are, the short guy and the tall guy will not fight you the same way either. See what I mean? Not to mention that you can't predict the pace of the fight. you may have a strategy, and he may completely screw it up. What will you do then?

[Tainan Mantis]

I agree with seven star.
I concern myself first and foremost with his attitude.
Then with his physical attributes.
Finally, if I have the chance to notice, with how he stands.

But I have been in situations where I could not take notice of any of these things and the keypoint,as it should be, was my own attitude.
Musashi goes into this extensively in his book 5 Rings.

[Mr.Binx]

Originally posted by SevenStar
There aren't any serious posts because it's not a serious question. Fighting is not so static that you can have a set strategy against a certain style.

Well said.

[ShaolinMantis]

Originally posted by SevenStar
There aren't any serious posts because it's not a serious question. Fighting is not so static that you can have a set strategy against a certain style.

In the words of Bruce Lee " take a 45 and BANG settle it"

seriously though ...you fight the person not the style

[darksands]

Hmm another peach stealer... Well, you just gotta get to their peaches before they get to yours.

[mantisben]

Originally posted by monkeyboxing
What strategy would you use to fight a mantis practitioner? I've read some of their fighting theories and they seem pretty hard to beat, because they use quick footwork to close the range and then unbalance the opponent while trapping and firing rapid fire hand strikes to vital points.

Like the other posts, fighting is very dynamic. You have to consider size, weight, attitude, and other things.

What little I know of the PM, it is primarily a striking art. Others will disagree, and I'm cool with that. They probably know more about PM than I do. Still, assuming PM is primarily concerned with striking, you may want to consider grappling with them, and not giving them enough room to launch their strikes. If you practice a grappling art, then you MAY have an advantage over someone who only knows striking.

Still, if they know how to strike well, then grappling with a PM practicioner might just get you struck on the way in. But grappling, in my opinion, in theory, may be a good strategy to use against a "striking" PM practicioner. I think grappling will work well against ANY practicioner that only know how to strike.

Please, anyone, feel free to just jump in and rebuke, refute, and condemn my post! I wanna hear what people think about this.

[KWUsCRD]

Originally posted by ShaolinMantis


In the words of Bruce Lee " take a 45 and BANG settle it"


No... no, I'm pretty sure he said "take a 45 and BANG set-toe it"

[Mr.Binx]

Originally posted by KWUsCRD
No... no, I'm pretty sure he said "take a 45 and BANG set-toe it"
I respect the amount of effort that Lee Yuen Kam put in learning to communicate with a larger spectrum of this planet's population. His english may not have been perfect (heck, most americans have problems speaking it properly), but it was understandable and it served a purpose. It doesn't seem right to make fun of a dead teacher's pronunciations of another language just because he hadn't yet learned how to make the words pleasing to your ears.

[mantisben]

Originally posted by Mr.Binx

I respect the amount of effort that Lee Yuen Kam put in learning to communicate with a larger spectrum of this planet's population. He's english may not have been perfect (heck, most americans have problems speaking it properly), but it was understandable and it served a purpose. It doesn't seem right to make fun of a dead teacher's pronunciations of another language just because he hadn't yet learned how to make the words pleasing to your ears.
AMEN! Communicating your idea is MOST important when, well, communicating. Grandmaster Lee was a GREAT communicator, and GREAT Martial Artist.

[monkeyboxing]

Who is Lee Yuen Kam?

[Mr.Binx]

Lee Yuen Kam is much more well-known throughout the world by his chosen american name: Bruce Lee.

[Meat Shake]

" Well, you just gotta get to their peaches before they get to yours."

I do not like the idea of anyone getting at my peaches. :(

7* has ruthlessly thrown the correct to the ground and proceeded to stomp its genitals.
On top of what he said, you must take into consideration that there is also northern mantis, which "differs in range" from southern mantis, but the southern mantis guy may like to kick for some reason...
And in my case, Im just going to try and get in to throw. Im not going to try and outbox a boxer. Thats my philosophy for fighting anyone. Loosen them, get in, throw.

[SevenStar]

agreed. nobody touches my peaches except me...








































wait a minute....that doesn't sound right...

[OdderMensch]

Originally posted by BeiTangLang



Hmmm,..tough one. I would most likely use quick footwork to close the range and then unbalance the opponent while trapping and firing rapid fire hand strikes. :D
~BTL

Bah, that would never work! The mantis practitioner would just leap about, avoiding the rapid attacks. Besides, use quick footwork, trap AND fire hard hitting hand strikes, why thats doing three things at once! Thats not normal! What sort of abnormal stratagy is that??? Huh? Why, you'd have to attack and defend simultanoiusly!!!








:D

[Ironwind]

Originally posted by OdderMensch


Thats not normal! What sort of abnormal stratagy is that??? Huh? Why, you'd have to attack and defend simultanoiusly!!!

:D


DUH!!

I think that's normal of martial artist.
Wing Chun
Karate
Akido

Can I close my mouth now.

[Ironwind]

Ohhh!!!!:D


I get it.

Its a joke.

If I was attacking then I'd be hit for being slow.

:D ohh I'm so cheesy.

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWdBaQOVviw

Shaolin-in-the-Ring-and-Cage (https://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?68809-Shaolin-in-the-Ring-and-Cage)
how-do-you-fight-a-mantis-practitioner (https://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?27892-how-do-you-fight-a-mantis-practitioner)

[MightyB]

Lest people begin to believe all Kung Fu is BS... these guys show that Kung Fu peeps can fight if they're trained to fight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEQ3MQFe2tQ

*note, both of these clips, (the one Gene posted, and this one) are representative of Shaolin, not Mantis.