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5thBrother
03-13-2004, 02:15 AM
Grandmaster Yui Kil
was renowned for
his awesome 61/2
point pole and
double swords
combative
techniques. He
favours the original
Wing Chun bamboo
dummy as opposed
to the Wooden
dummy.


hi.

any picture or description of this "bamboo dummy"

please?

is it just a "bamboo construction" of the "standrad mok jong"?

thank u

YiWan
03-13-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by 5thBrother



hi.

any picture or description of this "bamboo dummy"

please?

is it just a "bamboo construction" of the "standrad mok jong"?

thank u

"Bamboo dummy" exists in two versions. The first consists of just two bamboo sticks hammered in the land one behind the other. Practitioner stands behind them and tries by the first strike to push away the first stick and with the other hand to hit the second stick. In other exercises student also push the bamboo stick and reacts to its movements. Second version of "bamboo dummy" is a board fixed on the wall. Board has several holes into which are plug in bamboo sticks (long approximately as arm), which are used by practitioner to perform certain techniques utilizing elasticity of bamboo. Some schools of Wing Chun practice also "Juk Jong" form. This form is speciality of schools that come from lineage of master Yuen Chai Wan (Ng Mui->Yim Wing Chun->Leung Bok Chau->Law Man Kung->Kok Bo Chuen->Yuen Chai Wan (brother of Yuen Kay Shan) and consists of 12 techniques - 8 hand movements and 4 leg movements.

Here Lau Su Gwan sifu from Fatshan (Yuen CaiWan - Yiu Choi - Lam Yeun Bo - Lau sifu) show some movements :

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5thBrother
03-13-2004, 05:52 PM
hi.

thank you 4 the very informative post.

reneritchie
03-15-2004, 02:45 PM
Basically, in the old days WCK was taught very privately and some people, after they learned the system (which didn't take that long) didn't have partners to train with (and didn't (yet) want students). So, like the wooden dummy, they came up with something that could be more effective to train contact reflexes.

Wood is stiff and unmoving. Bamboo bends and can snap back. So several lengths of bamboo 'arms' could be used to work on precision and sticking skills. (Note: many since have used spring mounted arms for similar purposes).

Yuen Chai-Wan and Yuen Kay-San had wooden dummy, bamboo dummy, and other dummies. Nothing substitutes for a live partner, but lacking that, training must go on.