Frat Fight

[Mantidland]

http://www.collegehumor.com/?movie_id=45044

Check this out. Another classic example of a guy who talks much trash, and is not ready for the consequences. If you're going to be that close to someone who is willing to fight you, and you insist on mouthing off to them, AND they are bigger than you,,,,GET YOUR HANDS UP!!!

[Oso]

well, i've never seen it.

my favorite bit was that no one cared enough about breaking it up to put their drinks down.:D

[The Willow Sword]

The misunderstood and underrated style of "Drunken Frat Boy"

Hehehe our future youth of america:rolleyes:


Peace,,TWS

[Chang Style Novice]

Last words on the audio: "Hey, you're bleeding."

What a mind!

Edit - and for KL, I noticed that the only identifiable beer was a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. I'd have held onto that myself!

Mmm...Sierra Nevada Pale Ale....

[rubthebuddha]

oso -- watches the bystanders
tws -- watches the fighters
csn -- watches the beer

now tell me, who has the best priorities?

[Oso]

me of course.

you already know what the fighters are doing and they are easy to keep an eye on out of the corner of your eye.

it will be one of the bystanders who starts swinging next.

then, when they do, you can steal their girlfriend who is appalled by all the brutality and just wants a sensative guy to hold on to amidst the chaos.



IPA: ewww Dogfish Immort Ale is heaven my friend.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/rate_results/64/199/

[red5angel]

I had Moose Drool last week and it wasn't all that good. Too bitter and yet needed more taste. It's like they took the bitter from english beer (good) an dmixed it with the tastelessness of American beer (bad) to come up with something both bad and hotrrible to taste. I had expected more from something called Moose Drool I guess.

[David Jamieson]

I always love it when the guy covered with blood who was clearly dominated says at the end....and I quote:

"You're Dead!"

bwahahahahahahaha.

I though I saw a Kokanee on that table actually, but it will take further analysis to make that determination methinks.

[KWUsCRD]

*starts taking notes for the next fight he gets into*

1 ) Get drunk, sloppy, and uncoordinated.

2 ) Pick one of the largest people in the room to start a fight with.

3 ) Get him totally amped, I mean pumped to the point he would fight a hippo.

4 ) Onces he's in this completely enraged state, make sure one of your friends goes over to him and he starts putting his hands all over him. (personal note : invade his personal space as much as possible!)

5 ) Keep your hands low and stay as far away as guard as possible. Then strategically give him the benefit of the doubt by completely taking your eyes off him.

6 ) Head butt his right cross.

I have no idea how he lost that fight.

[Oso]

I've only seen Moose Drool on the net...thanks for the review.

Dogfish Head Brewery is my new fav and may remain so for a long time. They make some dang good beer but I have to go to Va or TN to buy it in the high test versions.

[red5angel]

I've never even heard of it! However I have to say that I am slowly becoming a fan of the local bar/microbreweries here in town. Herkemer's right down the street from my house makes a goo Indian Pale.

[Oso]

the only IPA i've ever had that I liked was made by a buddy of mine in his home brewery.

i've never had a commercial IPA that I liked. too much hop not enough malt.

take a look for them...$15 a six pack but worth it for a special occasion...especially since most of them are in the 9-11% ABV...6 is like 12 and a 1/2 case of micro/import will run you that at least.

[Shen Zhou]

Now that is a great exapmle of a "street" fight. Lasted all of 20 seconds and they (and i use that word "they" losely) actually hit one another.

*My Observations*

1. Nothing good can come from the idea of a room full of frat white guys or a room full of non frat white guys and one black guy.

2. Nothing good can come from the idea of a room full of drunk frat white guys or a room full of drunk non frat white guys and one black guy.

Dont get me wrong the same thing could have and probaly would have occured if the roles where reversed.


*WHO WAS IN THE WRONG* My opinion

The Black Guy who should not have been there in the first place.

Shen Zhou

[David Jamieson]

shen zhou--

apparently your mindset is somewhere in the american south circa 1862.

Could you try to be more racist next time? I don't think you're being racist enough frankly.:rolleyes:

[Shen Zhou]

Thanks a Million Kung Lek I needed that.

That made me laugh so hard. Yes I am from the south but no I am not a racist. I have no power to change anything, which next to hating is a major part of being a racist. But let me re read my post and see if I missed something. Nope thats pretty much the turth. Been there and seen it first hand on many occasion. Drunk or not it happens I refer you to the university of north texas in 2000 incident. But hey its just my opinion what does it really mean. And for the record My best friend is white. I could not resist. Sorry if I offended anyone it was not my intention. Less we forget that not that much time has passed since the days of ol'.

Shen Zhou


Ahh I see my mistake. I meant those "type" of environments not just a random room full of either men. I have seen the error of my ways.

[red5angel]

for once I have to agree with kung lek. Shen Zhoul what you said is just fukking ignorant. You may not consider yourself racist but by making that very remark your showing true colors. I'm from the south myself and I know how people feel down there. I certainly know that the south has it's own brand of ignorance (The North does too but we aren't discussing that). I have know and still know plenty of southerners who claim to not have a racist bone in their body but go ahead and make ******* comments like that.

I have one rule - if you say something like "I'm not racist but..." that's all the further you need to go and all the info I need.

[Oso]

LOL.

actually, there were a couple of black guys at the beginning of the clip but one left.

hard to say if race was an issue from that clip.

I think the base rule is:

Don't be in a room with a bunch of drunks.

Alcohol is color blind.

[red5angel]

Don't be in a room with a bunch of drunks.


OR be the baddest mofo in the room! :)

[Vash]

Big pimpin' it here in the south. The very anus of Arkansas, actually.

I've seen more racists in this town of 23,000+ than anywhere else I've been. Most people, though, they don't say "I'm not a racist." Those who are white and racist claim it and hold it as sacred as the Rebel flag they generally have tattooed on there bicep or over their heart.

I've met many black people who couldn't stand being around white people.

Both groups of racists are generally ignorant, both socially and intellectually, have exceptionally short tempers, and have a hard time telling the difference between the red word "Daredevil" or "Dreaddevil" when it is emblezened upon a video cassette box.

And both have a tendency to want pornography at 10 in the morning.

Mean? Yep. And honest. Racists are scum.

[red5angel]

Most people, though, they don't say "I'm not a racist." Those who are white and racist claim it and hold it as sacred as the Rebel flag they generally have tattooed on there bicep or over their heart.

That's the only difference between the north and the south. In the South, if someone doesn't like you, atleast you'll know it.

[Vash]

Indeed.

"'T'ain't like'n we take kindly to strangers like you 'roun heiu."

[Shen Zhou]

Aight, first and foremost my views are my views. Until I disrespect you don’t call me out disrespectfully about anything I say. Now with that being said, I will give some reasons for my post. And a little of my background regarding this issue of "race" we have come upon. Directions of north, south, east, or west has nothing to due with racism. All have great examples of dis-race relations within them. So I don’t categorize them, America as a whole has the same amount of racial problems equally. As for me saying I am not a racist it is true due to the fact that I have no power to change the course anyone’s destiny but mine. Only people with power can do this and this is where racism comes in. When someone can control what another person does because of color then that is racism. For example not letting slaves go to school, restricting someone because of color from buildings, sending innocent men to prison for life because of color, beating a man have to death or to death and getting off because of color are all examples of racism. I have no power to do any of these things. Truth comes in many fashions big T’s and little t’s the big T’s are the things that can be proven like there is a sun or some people have green eyes and some have brown. The little t’s are the truths that are true but can be disputed like 1+1 equals 2. In most cases this is true but not always. My post was a truth with a little t. Can be proven but can also have it exceptions. It’s a truth because I have seen it first hand on more then one occasions in more then one venue. But, hey I apologized if you where offended by my post and that should have been the end. But no you have to take it to a level of disrespect and for what? To look good in front of your kung fu magazine buddies or to show that you’re the most un racist person on the forum. Yo please don’t disrespect me like that. If you want to debate me or my post then do so in an intellectual manner.

Shen Zhou

[red5angel]

ok:


first and foremost my views are my views

and posting them on a public forum makes them, well, public ;)



So I don’t categorize them, America as a whole has the same amount of racial problems equally

More accurate to say America as a whole has racism, but not the same amounts. It differs from place to place.


Only people with power can do this and this is where racism comes in. When someone can control what another person does because of color then that is racism.

This is only one aspect of racism. Racism comes in many forms, flavors and degrees. For instance you can go extreme, and join the KKK, the Black Panthers, or some other racially biased group. You can fear peoples of a certain color for possible problems you had in the past. You can assume based on the color of a persons skin. I'm half cherokee and have had to listen to all sorts of people attribute all sorts of bizarre and mystical powers to my fathers people and other peoples of the americas. That to me is racism.
Racism is born from ignorance in all it's forms. To assume that being one black guy in a room full of white guys leads to trouble is racism in and of itself because that statement is born from ignorance, regardless of your experience. That reflects somehting dark in your mind. I've seen plenty of racism in my time and I can't recall ever making an assumption like that about anyone. Getting a bunch of drunk people together usually means trouble anyway, but to point out that getting a bunch of white people together and one black guy?


To look good in front of your kung fu magazine buddies or to show that you’re the most un racist person on the forum.

That's right, it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that I detest racism or anything. :rolleyes:

[MasterKiller]

Originally posted by red5angel
Racism is born from ignorance in all it's forms. To assume that being one black guy in a room full of white guys leads to trouble is racism in and of itself because that statement is born from ignorance, regardless of your experience. That reflects somehting dark in your mind. I've seen plenty of racism in my time and I can't recall ever making an assumption like that about anyone. Getting a bunch of drunk people together usually means trouble anyway, but to point out that getting a bunch of white people together and one black guy? I was the one white guy at an all black party one time. Guess what happened?

[David Jamieson]

trust me shen zhou, many of us here could hardly be described as "buddies" :p

welcome to the boards. LOL

But what you said in your original post was an observation that more or less stated that you believe the problem was racial.

When in fact, it was more likely due to youth and alcohol, which don't mix so well.

For all we know, those guys could've been on each other over a foul in a football game they were in earlier. Or a taken parking spot on school grounds or someones unfaithful girlfriend.

You brought it down to the equation of white vs black right out the gate, which in my opinion and as I stated, I felt was a rascist viewpoint.

No ifs, ands or buts about it.

Now, I am a white guy and I happen to live in the largest and most multicultural city in canada. In fact I am now a "visible minority". So, I can call it as I see it pretty easily nowadays in regards to racism.

Now you may as stated think what you like, but I was indicating that the paradigm from which you are viewing is in my opinion a racist one and likely doesn't contribute anything of any use to the overall good of peoples in any community.

Anyway, I'm still laughing that the guy who lost was all militant still. What a jerk! He probably deserved that bloodied nose.

[Vash]

Originally posted by Shen Zhou
As for me saying I am not a racist it is true due to the fact that I have no power to change the course anyone’s destiny but mine. Only people with power can do this and this is where racism comes in. When someone can control what another person does because of color then that is racism.

Wrong. Completely, totally wrong.

Yeah, there's a difference between descrimination and racism, as was the case in some of your examples. But racism doesn't involve the power to affect an entire social group. All it requires is disdain, hate, loathing for a group. That's it.

Those emotions listed above, you know what they breed? Themselves. They also tend to fug a person up in the head, causing those symptoms which I cited in an earlier post:

Both groups of racists are generally ignorant, both socially and intellectually, have exceptionally short tempers, and have a hard time telling the difference between the red word "Daredevil" or "Dreaddevil" when it is emblezened upon a video cassette box.

[ShaolinTiger00]

BJJ wins again. The loser was mounted and beaten badly. Postitional dominance always wins. Nothing new here..

[FatherDog]

Originally posted by Shen Zhou
The little t’s are the truths that are true but can be disputed like 1+1 equals 2. In most cases this is true but not always.

This is absolutely and without question the stupidest thing I have read this month.

[MasterKiller]

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
BJJ wins again. The loser was mounted and beaten badly. Postitional dominance always wins. Nothing new here..

[Typical ST00 Rant]

OMG! I can't believe you said that! If a traditionalist would have said it first, they'd be the *******! You said it first, now you're the *******! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[/Typical ST00 Rant]

[IronFist]

Would a guard work if you're kind of on the couch?

Like before he kinda got mounted on the couch, what if he had put him in the guard when the black guy was standing and the white guy was on the couch?

Or does it only work from the ground.

Also, I don't even think they white guy knew he was about to be hit. It kind of came from nowhere.

[Shen Zhou]

Lol yes public but still my views.


This is only one aspect of racism. Racism comes in many forms, flavors and degrees. For instance you can go extreme, and join the KKK, the Black Panthers, or some other racially biased group.

That is the same aspect that i wrote about. A group and enforce there will by numbers thus power by numbers. Power that I can not impart alone. Life dictates reality and if i have seen it time and time again like i said in both roles being reversed played then am I to say that, that’s not what’s happening or what is? I am not the type to wear blinders I rather see the world for what it is. Its greatness and its decay

I don’t know weather detest racism that could be construed as "I am not a racist" as well so should I take it that way and call you a racist? The factors that lead up to the fight come have come from any direction I state my onion of one of the many. I choose that opinion because that is the one that i have seen first hand. Would I have been there nope, and i would advise my friends to do the same. I have a story real quick. I took a job as a bouncer at Mexican club in Dallas real rowdy type place but had a mix crowd on Thursdays. Every single fight that i was in weather it was Mexican or white, or what ever it was called out of my race name. Not once but every single one. But to me I could care less what you think of me but be a man and say it to my face which they did and we dealt with what happened next. I said all this to say if you think that race has nothing to do with fights between black and white guys or any other race vs. race fight then i would love to live where you live. Maybe that’s why you moved from the "south" in the first place. But I like where i live and most of the people. If you think I am a racist then cool I understand you hopped on a topic and rode it till your finished.


Shen Zhou

[ShaolinTiger00]

Would a guard work if you're kind of on the couch?

Why not? I think you can forget about being able to sweep someone, but you could defend yourself better.

kung fu isn't the only art that can be used at odd angles and stances

The more I watch the video, the more I'm certain the brother is Brazillian..

zhoo zhitzu! zhoo zhitzu!

[Shen Zhou]

Originally posted by FatherDog


This is absolutely and without question the stupidest thing I have read this month.


Thats not my theory thats the threory of the Nature of Ontologically Necessary truth which was founded by smarter men them myself. So is this an insult towards myself?

Shen Zhou

[red5angel]

you wann know where racism starts to end? Right in the old branium. That's right folks, ending racism can start with you. IF you really don't want to dislike someone of another color or creed, then try not to for a change. Don't make ignorant statements on the web like it's ok cause you really don't think you hate them.
What you need to do shen zhou is fre your mind and stop assuming that race is the only reason for conflict. I'm willing to bet it probably wasn't as resonsible for al the violence in your life as you think. Sometimes racism can make a good pretext for all sorts of things, doesn't makeit any less dangerous or any more right. With you assuming that fighting is inevitable in a situation just leads to bad things happening. Maybe your sitting around with your buddies one night, and you start saying the same sorts of things you are here. "one black man in a room with a bunch of white guys is a fight waiting to happen". Maybe your not a strong racist, but that ignorant remark is heard by a freind of yours who might be, or someone who is racialy sensitive? Mayeb your buddy decides it's ok to pick fights with a local minority now, cause you said it was inevitable. Don't think it can happen? Obviously, since your so comfortable making statements like that, but you need to open your eyes. Those statements were racially ignorant and reflects what lies beneath.

[Shen Zhou]

For the record which do I hate?

Black or white?

[Vash]

You hate logic.

[The Willow Sword]

originally quoted by Rubthebuddha

{QUOTE}oso -- watches the bystanders
tws -- watches the fighters
csn -- watches the beer

now tell me, who has the best priorities?{QUOTE}


Well i think that I do. and why? well CSN is watching the beer and why should i? its not like its not going to run out. i have been to frat parties and the beer NEVER ends. it is a flowing fountain.

ok an OSO watching the bystanders? whats the point? they are all watching the FIGHT anyway. and i only saw one chick in the whole thing and she got plowed into when the guys started shoving in to each other.

Peace,TWS

[red5angel]

For the record which do I hate?

Doesn't matter, the point is the comment you made was ignorant. It's not more or less excusable regardless of what color you hate, or even what color you are.

[Oso]

the fighters aren't going anywhere real fast

if anything else 'pops' it will be from the crowd. in the excitement of watching the fight all that testosterone starts to build up and the next thing you know someone else is throwing punches. I don't want to be caught by that so I watch them.

[Ralphie]

Pulling guard on a couch during a drunken frat party fight would look ghey as he!!. Would it work? Maybe, but I'm glad I've never had to do it. I think you could sweep with it by just rolling off the couch, there is no where for the other guy to post.

[themeecer]

Originally posted by Shen Zhou
For the record which do I hate?

Black or white?

I may have missed but you did say you were black Shen, didn't you? I think they are assuming you were being racist against the black guy.

[ShaolinTiger00]

Would you look ghey pulling guard on the couch at a frat party?

Yep.

Would you look ghey going to a frat party with no chics in sight?

Yep.

[Shen Zhou]

Originally posted by Vash
You hate logic.

Logic is Sound reasoning and the formal laws of reasoning. So am i to take it that I have no argument at all? That everything I have said has no foundation in reality and that it could not have been the reason. If that is the case then i must rethink my whole life and every event that I thought that was the cause. Every time some one wanted to fight me because of my color was all just in my mind. All the times my name was involuntarily changed i will have to rethink because that not what really happened. I would like to thank all of you that jumped on the bandwagon for right and justice to rid this web forum of hate and racism. So many of you are so well educated on this topic that I can’t ever think How i came to such a conclusion. There is no racism in the world its all in my mind. I would like to thank you all for making my work day move much faster. I would like to thank all of you good people who called me ignorant and a racist. I have a lot of searching to do and some people to tell I am sorry for being a racist. Girlfriend, Father, Sifu, Host of kung fu brothers and sisters, I am so sorry everyone. Thank you and I really mean it.

Shen Zhou


My back ground
raised in Slums of Housing Project
schooled in the Innercity school district
Degree Philosophy
Masters Degree Cultural Anthropology
Working on Ph.D Cultural Anthroplogy
went back to my old school and Taught in innercity schools

But needless to say, Who am I to make a post on "race" after all?

[Shen Zhou]

Originally posted by themeecer


I may have missed but you did say you were black Shen, didn't you? I think they are assuming you were being racist against the black guy.


Themeecer Lol i know what they assumed. It all for fun and kicks its just the internet. But thanks for asking yes I am a son of native African people.

[David Jamieson]

I think the only thing in either of those guy's toolboxes that night was the patented "drunken flail" and the "fall all over the place until you stop" and the "bleed everywhere profusely".

I'd give it a 1.5 out of ten.

They really should've scoured teh couch for a remote and watched a couple of episodes of mayberry.

that whistling would of calmed em all down. And the fishing.

[themeecer]

You were probably kidding in your first post of that black guy not needing to be there ... but there is some truth in that. It would depend on the area and the circumstances .. but I would agree with you. I'm white by the way ... well with some Cherokee in me ... but predominantly white. I know I am going to catch some flak for what I am about to say ... but I have a friend who is into (c)ock fighting. Yes, those still go on. Well our other friend who is black got into the 'sport' as well. Not surprisingly, he ran into many a rough situation at these events. You get that many 'redneck' guys together in this type of event, there is bound to be trouble if you aren't pasty white as they are. (No offense to rednecks .. I guess I are one. Hehe Jeff Foxworthy has given me courage to come out of the closet. Redneck does not always equate racist, but in this case it does) There was plenty of times my two friends had to hightail it out of there before trouble brewed more. He finally gave it up.

We may be becoming more progressive in the south .. but I don't think we are ready for a black (c)ock fighter. (Ok .. that sounded wrong on so many levels) Maybe after we get more brothers into NASCAR we can see about this. Speaking of that ... anyone know where I can find that clip where a radio show host called a redneck up and asked for his views of NASCAR's first black driver? They got that guy so ticked off when they were done with him. It was probably the funniest prank call I have ever heard.

Ok .. ready for my flames now.

[red5angel]

Shen Zhou, I'd like to thank you for not paying attention. It seems to be running rampant on this forum lately.
It doesn't matter what race you are, it doesn't matter where you grew up or what you had to deal with. It doesn't even matter your education. All that is just bullsh!t to hide behind man. You can be the smartest man in the world and still not like someone of another color. You can be the poorest man in the world or the most picked on and still hate another who isn't like you. I don't want to hear a fukking sob story about who did what when and where, it's your own fukking decision to look at the world the way you want to, and no one elses. your preaching to the choir if you want to talk about racist experiences but I sure don't let it get me or make me ignorant.



Themeecer Lol i know what they assumed.


It's all right there man, all you need to do is read that statement and tell me there ain't any anger in you.

[themeecer]

I skimmed his posts and quite honestly didn't see any hate in them.

Wait a second!!! How screwed up is this? I am normally being called a racist for the sole reason I am from the south. And I am sure someone will find a reason to call my above post racist. And here I am the only one defending my african american brother. Crazy world.

[red5angel]

sall I want to know themeecer is how you got internet in a trailer? ;) and shouldn't you be out putting the tires back on your firebird?

[themeecer]

Actually I have mine in the outhouse. I like to multi task when I chat with you fellows.

[red5angel]

Actually I have mine in the outhouse. I like to multi task when I chat with you fellows.

LOL! shouldn't that be "Fellars"?:D

[Chang Style Novice]

FTR, I have been to lots and lots of interracial parties, both as the majority and the minority and almost none have resulted in violence.

I think there may be more than race at work here, namely, I think there was at least one assh0le in the room, and maybe more.

[The Willow Sword]

you yank we spell it "Fellers";)

or maybe not, i dont know im just increasing my post numbers:p


Peace, TWS

[red5angel]

yeah but TWS, your in Texas see, I'm from the smarter half of Texas....Louisiana, and we know how to spell just fine ;)

[MasterKiller]

Originally posted by red5angel
yeah but TWS, your in Texas see, I'm from the smarter half of Texas....Louisiana, and we know how to spell just fine ;):D Irony.

[themeecer]

Ha ha .. you bunch of dumbys!! :D

[IronFist]

Originally posted by Oso
if anything else 'pops' it will be from the crowd. in the excitement of watching the fight all that testosterone starts to build up and the next thing you know someone else is throwing punches. I don't want to be caught by that so I watch them.

[IronFist]

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
Would you look ghey pulling guard on the couch at a frat party?

Yep.

Would you look ghey going to a frat party with no chics in sight?

Yep.

[FatherDog]

Originally posted by Shen Zhou



Thats not my theory thats the threory of the Nature of Ontologically Necessary truth which was founded by smarter men them myself. So is this an insult towards myself?

Shen Zhou

1 + 1 = 2 is a logical truth, not an ontological truth; it's always true by definition, in the same way A = A, you utter tool.

[Vash]

Originally posted by Shen Zhou


Logic is Sound reasoning and the formal laws of reasoning. So am i to take it that I have no argument at all? That everything I have said has no foundation in reality and that it could not have been the reason. If that is the case then i must rethink my whole life and every event that I thought that was the cause. Every time some one wanted to fight me because of my color was all just in my mind. All the times my name was involuntarily changed i will have to rethink because that not what really happened. I would like to thank all of you that jumped on the bandwagon for right and justice to rid this web forum of hate and racism. So many of you are so well educated on this topic that I can’t ever think How i came to such a conclusion. There is no racism in the world its all in my mind. I would like to thank you all for making my work day move much faster. I would like to thank all of you good people who called me ignorant and a racist. I have a lot of searching to do and some people to tell I am sorry for being a racist. Girlfriend, Father, Sifu, Host of kung fu brothers and sisters, I am so sorry everyone. Thank you and I really mean it.

Shen Zhou


My back ground
raised in Slums of Housing Project
schooled in the Innercity school district
Degree Philosophy
Masters Degree Cultural Anthropology
Working on Ph.D Cultural Anthroplogy
went back to my old school and Taught in innercity schools

But needless to say, Who am I to make a post on "race" after all?

Ah, so now your definition of racism changes, from abuse of power to alter in an unfavorable manner the situations of a social group to one-on-one (or equivalent emotional circumstance) biased and/or violent behavior? Perhaps if you looked to the medium, that being a combination of the two above behaviors, you'd get to the truth.

You didn't come to a conclusion. You said one thing, then came again and said something contradictory.

And you never forwarded a theory, dude, you stated a hypothesis.

Indeed, your state of toolness is utter . . . or udder, whichever is closer the end of the cow from which sh!t pours.

[red5angel]

LOL! Vash you crack me up.


And you never forwarded a theory, dude, you stated a hypothesis.

nothing like an intelligent phrase coined that includes "dude" in it! :D

[rubthebuddha]

shen zhou -- honest question:

when you said the black guy did not need to be there, did you mean:

1. he shoulda realized that being at such an occasion, when you're the only member of a group that is frequently singled out and targeted, and many around you are in states of low inhibition/self control, trouble may be just around the corner ...

or

2. he really had no business being a party like that anyway, cause no black person has such business.

if 1, you're not a racist. you just have common sense, and anyone defining racism as awareness of a potentially ugly situation that can leave one looking as ugly as that white guy needs to make an appointment with webster.com.

if 2, then meecer will pick red5 and i up in his firebird* and come give you what for.

if neither 1 or 2, then you have to wrestle with fatherdog's pet alligators.




* i call shotgun. ain't no way i'm sitting in a firebird's back seat for that long of a ride.

[red5angel]

if 1, you're not a racist. you just have common sense, and anyone defining racism as awareness of a potentially ugly situation that can leave one looking as ugly as that white guy needs to make an appointment with webster.com.

or 1, your assumption that a group of white guys will just default to beating up lone black guys is offensive. ;)


if 2, then meecer will pick red5 and i up in his firebird* and come give you what for.

he's got to get it off the blocks in his front yard first!:D

[Vash]

Honestly, I didn't read SZs earlier posts. I just caught on to where he was talking about the definition of racism . . . that kind of thinking is stupid, dangerous, and it bother the **** out of me, pardon my Americanized french.

[rubthebuddha]

or 1, your assumption that a group of white guys will just default to beating up lone black guys is offensive. read what i said again, red. it says "may." maymaymaymaymay. :p

remember, we ARE talking about the south here. all they care about is hate crimes and the gospel that is nascar.

oh wait, my fiancée lives in texas, hates racists and thinks nascar is boring.

or, as my brother (a pnw native now in maryland) always asks a nascar fan, "which direction are they turning now? left? astounding!"

:D