Gary Lam chi sau clips

[Ernie]

hey guys

was puttiing up some clips for the guys at my school ,
but if any of you want them your more then welcome to
them

night chi sau is from a private training session, some of the
german guys that come over for a few months

and the other clip is just gary playing around with one of the
students

nothing earth shattering just fun stuff


go to http://wingchuncoach.com video section last
2 at the bottom


Ernie

[PaulH]

Ernie,

Thanks for posting those clips! Good stuffs! Imagine if I can chi sau with his hands...Man, where would you be? Ha! Ha!

Regards,
PH

[Ernie]

paul

he was real low key on these ones , he sparks a little on the night one , but mostly just seemed to be playing around . but i figure it will give people stuck in a office something to take them away from there day for a second :)

[Shadowboxer]

Yep, thanks.

;)

[PaulH]

Well the German clip shows more of a timing skill to me while the 2nd one demonstrates very clean structural hand skills. So I enjoy the 2nd more. Why did you like the 1st one more?

[Gangsterfist]

man i hate windows media my plug in for this browser is always wacked out, I will have to watch it when I get home and use IE [I hate IE]....

[Ernie]

paul
well the first one '' night '' you can see moments of very clear shots and still controlling center but always staying a motion ahead

no desperation punching , just opening a line and fireing



the second '' day'' clip is a little on the sloppy side for gary and he throws his wieght into some of the actions instead of his usual sharp structure power , it's funny he was doing the same thing he gets on me about , just playing to much

but it good to see things as they are , you don't have to use your ''gun'' all the time .
plus i know they guy he was playing with is a very '' young '' student . so no need to be all serious .

shadow boxer no prob :D



g fist

just down load it save it and open it in media player
i have the avi version , but i wasn't planning on leaving these clips up , just thought i would toss them out to those that wanted them and then i would pull them off
so i didn't post both formats
sorry bro

if you have problems and still want them i can put them on my server for you

[Gangsterfist]

Ernie,

No biggie. I can always watch it later when I get home from work. My computers here at work are configured to my likings. I personally do not really like using microsoft products, unfortunately I run into plug in problems when doing this. So, sometimes I am forced to use Internet Explorer.

I can get it later tonight.

[PaulH]

Just saw it again, Ernie. You're right he is way ahead in motion. I like also the way he moved so easily through that German guy. When I play with that German fast hand, we were just so smug and happy exchanging mutual slugfest and self-destruction! Ha! Ha!

[kj]

Just saw your videos, Ernie; good stuff and thanks for posting them. It's always a pleasure to see Gary in action. Like you said, he's apparently got enough together to make his point even on days (or nights) when he's not as tight, lol.

I know I mentioned this before, but that's a nice setup with the mattresses or whatever. Good thing too, the way you guys toss each other around. ;)

One question out of curiosity about that though. Do you guys direct the energy into pushing (rather than hitting in) as a matter of safety in training, or is it an intentional and desireable fighting tactic?

Reason I ask is just to compare and contrast. For example, our general preference isn't to push the guy away. Given our "smaller, weaker, older, uglier, ...." model, pushing away just gives the big boys time to regroup and come at us again. Or just as bad, requires us to expend precious energy to go and get them. Not to mention the risks inherent in repeatedly closing that darn gap. This hardly implies that we'd never push someone away, it's just not what we'd ultimately prefer to do strategy wise.

Actually, it isn't at all unusual for us to push the partner/opponent similar to you guys in training (though some of those pads would be nice! lol). In training though, it tends to be mainly due to things like a) concern for the safety and well-being of the partner in being hit too deeply, b) because the dropping or penetrating energy isn't sufficiently developed yet, c) not yet having overcome the fear of being close (e.g., students instinctively create space by pushing the partner/opponent away), or some combination of such factors. Just wondering how this stacks up against your philosophy and strategy as regards pushing the opponent.

Thanks again for sharing the videos. At the risk of spoiling you with a "spoonful of sugar" (as my teacher puts it), you and Gary have some uncommonly good stuff going on.

Regards,
- Kathy Jo

[Ernie]

kathy

first thanks for the cooool words ha ha

that's why you were one of the first people i emailed about my site before i put it out i really enjoy the way you break things down . and i always value you view

pushing is part of the five system's that make up gary's approach
crossing
[ any point were the hands make contact , all tan , bong ,fook variations and sub actions ]

pushing-- escort what goes '' and add to it
[ any form of projection , po pai , bong , lan ,quan , body etc ]

pulling-- accept what comes '' and add to it
[ lop, or throw etc..]

closeing --body to body
[ locks, throws ,sweeps, any control motion inside the elbow range ]

footwork [ stepping 5 base patterns , baat jam do and pole patterns , finally natural adaptive footwork]


so that is a very tiny draft of it

now to pushing ,
the reason we work on it first it to develop explosive ground power , to be able to release the full power of the stance and the stance in motion with out killing each other
second for sensitivity it takes alot to be able to seal some ones position and pull off a push with out getting whacked
then we put it together with the hitting

so we develop stuff in a isolation then combine it
first the basic mechanics and release of power , then we have a form of chi sau with no hitting po pai to po pai were we compete in a sense to see who can pull it off while defending full power full speed
we work off three different timings - begining , middle , and end of the action

and last we put it all together and hit with full explosive force
since we learned to let the power out and have the timing and feel for position hitting is easy since it takes less time to hit then to seal a position , so no need to chain punch set up the shot by way of feel and position and blast .


we also use short gain ging types of pushing to break structure or create space
we would only project if there is something to throw him into
:D
and as for po pai to really express it power goes into the body like a shock not so much as a push but for training we hold the shock back


now there is another side the person getting tossed learns to relax and flow or absorb , if its to great instead of being stubborn and sticking to the ground they just let the foot work handle the power so the stance becomes adaptive .

hope that helps explain it

i got about 100 pages in my note book breaking it all down drills ideas and energies if you ever want more detail just email :D

we have no favorite energy , push pull hit , take down all depends on what the opponents telling me

in chi sau we send the person away after a superior position is achieved just to let them know and so know last second cheap shots come in:cool:

[lawrenceofidaho]

Hey Ernie,

the clips are good, but I like the new footwork article even better. :D

-Lawrence

[Ernie]

Lawrence
the clips are good, but I like the new footwork article even better

ha ha maybe you will inspire me to shoot some clips with explosive foot work in a non chi sau enviroment :D

[yylee]

It's always a good thing to watch Chi Sau training between people of different schools.

thanks Ernie!

[kj]

Thanks for that excellent elaboration, Ernie.

Regards,
- kj